Hi James,
1. 3rd Generation Ryzen 2 7nm, will we see operating frequency ~5GHz?
2. Are there going to be more improvements to Latency?
3. When, roughly, will these products be launched?
Thank you!
Intel (INTC) Q1 2018 Results - Earnings Call Transcript
Apr. 26, 2018 8:59 PM ET
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4166652-intel-intc-q1-2018-results-earnings-call-transcript
Sounds pretty unsure about when they are going to have yields fixed. This could just be more song and dance!
Once slight correction, but overall good post!
There are three distinct problems with #Intel 10nm process that I know of. I am willing to bet there are many more. Of the three only one has a solution that I am aware of, and that was the easy one.
Following Significant Technology, Capacity and Expansion Milestones, GLOBALFOUNDRIES’ Sanjay Jha to Pass Baton to Industry Veteran Tom Caulfield
Mar 09, 2018
https://www.globalfoundries.com/news-events/press-releases/following-significant-technology-capacity-and-expansion-milestones
Sanjay is...
An Epyc Master Plan
AdoredTV
Published on Feb 21, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucMQermB9wQ&feature=youtu.be&t=2
Ryzen 2 made at TSMC. 64 Core Epyc processor.
I'm wrong and you are right. Higher score relates to lower latency when compared to other Intel processors. https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/7123767
i7-8700
single-core
Memory Latency
10134
42.7 ns
multi-core
Memory Latency
9981
43.4 ns
2600 has ~101ns latency for single core.
2933 CAS 14-16 vs. ? = 17% latency improvement. Going from CAS 16 to CAS 14 at 2933 will not gain you a 17% internal latency improvement. The RAM would have to be significantly faster, or we can choose the more reasonable option that CPU is designed with improved latency.
We can call it 12nm, but that is mostly a marketing term. Since there is a move from the 9T library to 7.5T library for the transistors, there is a logic density change by virtue of smaller cells. But it's unlikely given the information so far that 12nm, originally labeled 14nm+, will offer much...
People have made predictions of 200-400MHz, but that remains to be seen. The 2400G despite delidding, and liquid metal cooling was not able to achieve higher clocks.
There are a lot of inconsistencies with benchmarks on that website. Here is a link and you can see what I'm seeing...
Here is a 1600X@3.6GHz version 4.0.4. It is 200MHz higher base clock, but I would say the single and multi-threaded scores are within "ball park" numbers.
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/2253116
The sample spotted on geekbench.com has some strange differences, which make it likely that it's just an engineering sample. I just wanted to show everyone an easy to see clock for clock comparison.
in my original post here...
A side by side clock for clock comparison@3.4GHz. 1600X@3.4GHz 4,118 vs. 2600@3.4GHz 4,269 offering a clock for clock gain of 3.5%. 1600X@3.4GHz 18,906 vs. 2600@3.4GHz 20,102 offering a clock for clock gain of 5.9%. http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/6690641...
Its hard for me to believe in your doomsday scenarios with China winning within 5 years with there X generation XYZ processor, which just announced 5th Generation KaiXian comparable ~6 gen i3. I personally see a movement from cell phones to some form a AR/VR glasses, which will eventually...
raghu78 is correct in his assessment's. With all the posting and talk of TSMC, GlobalFoundries, and Intel people have neglected to see what Samsung has been doing. They have the most aggressive process node roadmap as well. They will attempt EUV at 7nm this year, and if they are able to do that...
Ryzen 5 2400G Live Testing!
Son of a Tech
Streamed live on Feb 10, 2018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrRvBWZ1AFA&feature=youtu.be
FULL TIMESTAMPS:-
Cinebench R15 multi core - 9:40 (769)
Cinebench R15 single core- 16:10 (149)
OC 4GHz - 2:31:45...
They announced this year it's on track for next year.
My interpretation is that a process battle between TSMC and GlobalFoundries is going on for AMD's business. And it is a battle for CPU and GPU business with AMD giving GlobalFoundries every opportunity up to the last minute to become the...
AMD paid GoFlo last year, and who is to say they wouldn't do it again or exactly what that payment was for to begin with.
Ryan is reporting this information after a tour at GlobalFoundries, so his comments could have pretty huge implications. GlobalFoundries for mobile processors and TSMC is a...
Malta Tour Shows GF Rising
Ryan Shrout
2/7/2018 00:01 AM EST
https://www.eetimes.com/author.asp?section_id=36&doc_id=1332945
7nm LP will be used for mobile processor applications... What about the other applications like desktops?
Maybe, TSMC will be producing 7nm CPUs for AMD.
2018-01-31
Second half of 2018 production 10nm chip
Intel Ice Lake processor as soon as possible in 2019 market
Look at the time table in the title! And check out that competitive analysis slide!
https://wccftech.com/amd-2nd-generation-ryzen-5-2600-asus-crosshair-vii-hero-x470-leak/
Looks like a 200MHz increase over base clock from the 1600 to the 2600. Not much gain there. The 10% performance increase is looking pretty like a pretty good ballpark number. Hopefully a precision boot 2...
Looks like a 200MHz lift in frequency over last year. Not much.
https://wccftech.com/amd-2nd-generation-ryzen-5-2600-asus-crosshair-vii-hero-x470-leak/
This thread has quickly turned into a troll thread.
OP make his contributions to the current, Ryzen 2 thread here...
Bandwidth/frequency/latency all play their parts. And as we go smaller we will reach theoretical limits, which suggest if you can't go smaller go wider.
Any time the CPU has to reach to RAM outside the core for new instructions it adds time. So, the faster/lower latency the RAM the faster overall computing will be.
It would be nice if they would be a little more clear about the advantages numerically. They have DDR4 3600 RAM now that can...
Fixed Bus Width to 1024
Based on Samsung's press release
https://news.samsung.com/global/samsung-starts-producing-8-gigabyte-high-bandwidth-memory-2-with-highest-data-transmission-speed
Samsung Starts Mass Production of 16Gb GDDR6 Memory ICs with 18 Gbps I/O Speed
by Anton Shilov on January 18, 2018 9:00 AM EST
Technology just keeps getting better! RAM is the real bottleneck in computing, so anytime I see jumps in RAM performance I'm a happy camper!
How many of these programs that tell you how to check for vulnerability are Java based? That would be a convenient way of getting access they need to exploit these vulnerabilities.
You think a couple people... They published how the exploit works in detail, so you must not be paying attention and just making random comments. How about all the countries/governments of the world putting their resources to exploit these vulnerabilities? Who is to say they are the first to...
Linux 4.15-rc8 Bringing BPF Security Improvements For Fending Speculative Attacks
Written by Michael Larabel in Linux Kernel on 14 January 2018 at 07:56 AM EST.
https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-4.15-rc8-BPF-Security
index : kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git...
Just to recap my takeaway.
Meltdown & Specter: Benchmarks with AMD and Intel on Windows 7 and 10
12.1.2018 16:36 clock Jan-Frederik Timm et al.
https://www.computerbase.de/2018-01/meltdown-spectre-amd-intel-benchmarks/
I show the worst gaming performance impact on windows 7. They only had a...
My guess is that the sudden influx of enterprise customers wanted reassurances that the "near-zero" was zero hence the added server microcode/OS updates for variant 2!
Samsung brands second-gen HBM2 as 'Aquabolt'
Now in mass production
By Shawn Knight on Jan 11, 2018, 12:40 PM
https://www.techspot.com/news/72712-samsung-brands-second-gen-hbm2-aquabolt.html
WOW, GDDR6 is only 16GBps! And up to 32GB! I wonder how fast this jumps into AMDs new design plans?
https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution
AMD is releasing mitigation against Spectre variant 2.
Microsoft will start rolling out updates for windows 10 for older AMD systems starting next week.
Benchmarking Linux With The Retpoline Patches For Spectre
Written by Michael Larabel in Software on 8 January 2018.
Here are 2 benchmarks that show the biggest changes in performance between Intel vs. AMD. The benchmarks are too numerous to show in all of them, but you can browse through them...
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