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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    I'm sorry but zero of your reasons make any sense. Good, then they're set. If they want more CPU only performance, they can downgrade to AM4 and sell me their existing system for cheap.. and when I say cheap I mean $400 max for their 2950x and $200 for their motherboard Max. Surprise, they end...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    I would have loved for them to use PLX Chips to break out and allow for higher I/O. Then I realized it wont happen because : Cost/Every company has discriminators between their product lines. AM4 will not be getting the I/O of threadripper, threadripper will not be getting the I/O of EPYC...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Everyone knows the socket is the same. I actually own one. If there's no wiring to 1/2 the CPU's feature on EPYC then what's the point along w/ the lower clocks EPYC runs at because of those features? The new Threadripper will be based on the new design w/ an I/O die. It wont be a literal EPYC...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    X370 is AMD Z370 is Intel. 8086k is an intel processor. This is an AMD thread not an Intel thread. On Intel's architecture, ram speed is decoupled from the internal CPU bus thus why you can run such clocks/timings. As a result of being decoupled, the ram speed increases have little effect on...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    You get what you pay for. If you're doing lots of random access, latency will most definitely matter and that tax is pennies. Not to mention the fact that people are missing the fact that b-die can be heavily overclocked to exotic higher latency timings. Few consumers know what their workflows...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    In the near future, intel is irrelevant. This has been known for some time. They will only achieve relevancy maybe towards the end of 2020/2021. Threadripper competes by doublng the PCIE slots and memory channels of Ryzen. Epyc competes by doubling that of Threadripper. My 1950x has more I/O...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    I've been watching closely how this is unfolding. It is understood that the memory controller is simply better in 2nd gen and definitely in the to be announced 3rd gen AMD processors. However, the memory companies are using this as way to make higher profits and shut down a quality product...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Here we go lads.. Id's habbening. PCIE Gen 4 Nvme for X570 : https://www.eteknix.com/worlds-first-pcie-4-0-m-2-nvme-ssd-announced-by-gigabyte/
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Epyc is not threadripper. Threadripper is already a rebranded cut down epyc with higher clocks. You can't just drop an EPYC into a threadripper board. Eypc has way lower clocks due to its features. You'd kill the whole reason why people go to threadripper in the first place. If you want EPYC...
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    Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

    Threadripper has its place as does AM4. To be frank, if you need to ask who really needs that many cores, then you simply aren't in the know for who does and can't form accurate statements about the market or requirements. I and a number of others use Threadripper for AI related work. To me...
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