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Nvidia has approached Softbank and is considering buying ARM Holdings

ARM CPU development might speed up as Nvidia might want to fight in server market. ARM GPU (Mali) was not competitive for long time, so drastic changes are welcome. Qualcomm and Samsung don't have custom cores. Qualcomm tweaks vanilla Cortex A, while Samsung ditched it's custom CPU team and...
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- Post #242
- Sep 14, 2020
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Nvidia has approached Softbank and is considering buying ARM Holdings

Oh yes, I'm sure everyone would love to cooperate with company which increases license fee 100x :D I'm sure they'd have tons of clients lining up to ask for possibility to cooperate. /s
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- Post #241
- Sep 14, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Nvidia has approached Softbank and is considering buying ARM Holdings

And what would Apple do? Go back to x86? Start from the scratch RISC-V core? It would take a lot of time and cash.
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- Post #191
- Sep 13, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Nvidia has approached Softbank and is considering buying ARM Holdings

Who is "all others" that Nvidia competes withs? In their main GPU market they compete with Intel and AMD. Both of these companies would love ARM to fail as it's their future competitor. I'm sure AMD would love to trade failing ARM for ditching security ARM core in their CPU.
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- Post #190
- Sep 13, 2020
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Nvidia has approached Softbank and is considering buying ARM Holdings

Why would Nvidia spend >40 mld/bn $ to hurt... um ... who exactly? Intel and AMD will be pleased if ARM CPUs will fail, Mellanox rather doesn't care about ARM. So who (from Nvidia competitors) would really loose when Nvidia acquires ARM?
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- Post #186
- Sep 13, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Question 'Ampere'/Next-gen gaming uarch speculation thread

How certain (reliable leaks) it is that Nvidia will be using SS 8LPP? Samsung has further improved 8 nm process, design for high clock/high power 8LPU, which seems like a better solution for big, power hungry and highly clocked GPUs.
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- Post #1,344
- Jun 22, 2020
- Forum: Graphics Cards
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Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

For Golden Cove you have to wait till 2021 and it should be 10nm++ (or 10nm+++ if you count Cannon Lake as 1st generation of 10nm). Intel Atom core is tiny, very tiny, but when it comes to PPA (perf/mm^2) it is real beast. 4 Tremont Atom cores are slightly smaller than single Willow Cove core...
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- Post #5,846
- Jun 20, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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[Ashraf] 10nm "Lakefield" SoC with Intel big + little cores

In pure performance old Y line might be ahead of Lakefield because of higher PL2. However, when it comes to idle power consumption or battery life Lakefield should be way ahead.
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- Post #283
- Jun 16, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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[Ashraf] 10nm "Lakefield" SoC with Intel big + little cores

I'm 99% sure Lakefield will "fails and costs lots of money", that's usually the case when you release bleeding edge product with hope that it's technology will be useful for later generations. After almost 1 year from being announced we get 2 SKUs and so far only 2 design wins. No way it can pay...
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- Post #244
- Jun 14, 2020
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[Ashraf] 10nm "Lakefield" SoC with Intel big + little cores

I think Lakefield might be realease mainly to get experience with 3D chiplet stacking (afaik, noone did that before?), to iron out issues which for sure did/will appear during designing, manufacturing such SKU. But overall, I agree that Lakefield is super late. Ttemont core was unveiled 8 months...
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- Post #238
- Jun 13, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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[Ashraf] 10nm "Lakefield" SoC with Intel big + little cores

Any link to prove those 18W PL2? thanks in advance.
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- Post #200
- Jun 10, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Question 'Ampere'/Next-gen gaming uarch speculation thread

There were some rumours about Ampere RTX 30 series that it will include DLSS 3.0. Making DLSS as common as possible is very reasonable, will boost Nvidia performance a lot. Tho, rumours are only rumours till RTX release, so don't take it for granted...
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- Post #1,152
- Jun 9, 2020
- Forum: Graphics Cards
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Solved! ARM Apple High-End CPU - Intel replacement

Well, in same article you have: Maybe if Samsung allocated more resources into SARC, results would be better. Also, this graph indicates bigger jump of performance for M6 core.
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- Post #1,059
- Jun 9, 2020
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Question 'Ampere'/Next-gen gaming uarch speculation thread

According to rumours DLSS 3.0 is supposed to work with every game with TAA implemented. They'll just suggest using those games and Ampere GPUs will run circles around Turing/Pascal.
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- Post #1,148
- Jun 9, 2020
- Forum: Graphics Cards
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Question 'Ampere'/Next-gen gaming uarch speculation thread

You know DIY is small market with highest % of tech enthusiasts (knowledge wise, not $$$ wise)? More important market is for example laptops. When Intel had CPU shortage DIY was least import for them.
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- Post #1,146
- Jun 9, 2020
- Forum: Graphics Cards
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Question 'Ampere'/Next-gen gaming uarch speculation thread

Vast majority of people are not into tech and for them Nvidia mindshare will be sufficient reason to go for Ampere. How much [% wise] of gamers are even bothering to do some more advanced research when buying PC? I'd bet it's <<10%
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- Post #1,142
- Jun 9, 2020
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Question Does PCIe 4 matter much over PCIe 3 ? Should I get Ryzen for PCIe 4?

Pretty sure that Ryzen 3600 + B450/B550 mobo + RTX2070 Super would outperform your spec in games. Fast NVMe drive doesn't do much for games: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/292522-sata-nvme-ssd-upgrade
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- Post #47
- Jun 8, 2020
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Question Does PCIe 4 matter much over PCIe 3 ? Should I get Ryzen for PCIe 4?

Both Intel Z490 and AMD X570 support PCIe 4.0, but with Intel you will have to wait for Rocket Lake to utilize this feature. Rocket Lake will fit same motherboards. Tbh, if you're focusing on gaming and Solidworks (both not very heavy on multi threading), while Photoshop is lower priority (at...
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- Post #40
- Jun 8, 2020
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Question Does PCIe 4 matter much over PCIe 3 ? Should I get Ryzen for PCIe 4?

Doesn't matter if 1050Ti is good card. That's the most popular one, so if developer wants to increase his potential customer base, he'll have to make his game run on this card. I can assure you than people are enjoying RDR2 on 1050Ti. GTX 1060 does ~28 fps in FHD Ultra setting. Lower it to...
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- Post #29
- Jun 8, 2020
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Question Does PCIe 4 matter much over PCIe 3 ? Should I get Ryzen for PCIe 4?

If AAA games will require super fast PCIe 4.0 SSD then they'll be PS5 exclusives. Otherwise you exclude like 95% of PC market, which makes porting PS5->PC pointless.
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- Post #19
- Jun 8, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

By the way, there is no roadmap for Cortex A series past 2020. Couldn't find even single one. This makes This makes me wonder is ARM will rename/reposition (performance tier wise) Cortex A successors. For servers we have roadmap till 2021 (Zeus in 2020, Poseidon in 2021).
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- Post #55
- Jun 8, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Question Does PCIe 4 matter much over PCIe 3 ? Should I get Ryzen for PCIe 4?

No, according to rumours only 3600X, 3800X and 3900X will be refreshed.
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- Post #13
- Jun 7, 2020
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Question Does PCIe 4 matter much over PCIe 3 ? Should I get Ryzen for PCIe 4?

Depends on your needs. Professional programmes usually prefer Intel. For Solidworks, I'd go with Intel. Below you have link for SW 2020 SP1 benchmark. I wouldn't expect CAD/CAM programmes to fully utilize multiple cores (let's say >8) any time soon. Sometimes you'll see them choking 1-2 cores...
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- Post #9
- Jun 7, 2020
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

Ohhh, I'd love for ARM to over deliver, trust me. +60% perf 2nd time in a row? Yes, please. I'm super curious how such N2 would fare vs Icelake-SP Xeon and Zen2/3 Epyc. From article on Phoronix I assume N2 would be winning most of the time...
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- Post #54
- Jun 4, 2020
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

Yes, but according to your slide N1 to N2 should bring 30% perf increase. That number aligns with Cortex A76->A78 performance uplift. Ofc, ARM can change their mind and give us N2 based on X1, but that should double performance uplift from 30% to 50-60%. Also, one more thing. December last year...
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- Post #51
- Jun 3, 2020
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

Good point with wifes, didn't catch that one before. Tho, Cortex A78 should provide this 30% perf advantage over A76. Look at estimated A78 performance vs Kirin 990 (finest A76?). Cortex X1 should give more substantial perf boost, closer to 50-60%. @moinmoin I don't think ARM core used solely...
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- Post #43
- Jun 3, 2020
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

@Gideon Not big fan of such solution unless you can somehow run OS on A55 cores in background, while x86 apps would use Zen cores same time. Btw, is it possible to create x86 ARM hybrid core? Also, one more thing. ARM announced Neoverse N1 (server core based upon Cortex A76) Feb 2019. Still...
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- Post #35
- Jun 2, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

Ahh, didn't refresh thread before posting previous message. I believe A78/X1 will be released this year with latest HiSilicon Kirin 1020. The leaks about +50% CPU perf would indicate Cortex X1. On the other hand, next gen might be used in 2022 if Huawei problems (China vs USA trade war) will...
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- Post #29
- Jun 1, 2020
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

Nvidia Carmel had average performance (Cortex A75 competitor), at least it seemed like it from Anandtech review. Efficiency was laging behind competitors, but it was partially due to worse process node (FFN 12). TSMC is expected to hit HVM in 2022, so after next gen uarch cores. Link...
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- Post #28
- Jun 1, 2020
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

We will not get next node (3 nm) for next gen ARM cores, it'll still be 5 nm (or its' upgrades, like 4nm). Hard to tell what ARM is preparing for next year, they could do almost anything. Agree on open model part, but I'm afraid we'll see less and less variety in ARM core design. Samsung and...
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- Post #24
- May 31, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

Good question, what is Matterhorn. I assume only ARM and maybe some people close to it know. ARM is pretty good with keeping secrets, there are hardly any rumours. 2 weeks ago I'd say Matterhorn is ARM's 1st huge core, but well... :D As for X series - I have opposite feeling. Imo, it might...
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- Post #22
- May 31, 2020
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

I think ARM might lower IP licensee fees for older uarch, so that's why now we see A72/73. At least that makes sense for me, so they still earn some $, while manufacturers get relatively high performance core for less bucks than A77/78 (considering only fees). So we might have chance to see A78...
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- Post #20
- May 31, 2020
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

I think Cortex A78 would be superior as it offers higher IPC then A77 (good for users), lower power consumption at same performance (can use cheaper cooling, less throttling, good for users and manufacturer) and it uses less area (good for manufacturer). Even at same process node A78 should...
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- Post #17
- May 30, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

There's no need to wait for X1. There are powerful tablets / smartphones available today that have everything you listed and a multitude of games to play. I mean, when I'm not on my desktop/laptop, I mostly only use ARM: SmartTV, iPhone, iPad, Watch, Car, ... For all other markets (DIY...
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- Post #9
- May 28, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Speculation: Spring refresh for Ryzen

I have to agree with Zucker2k. Ryzen naming scheme screams "COPYCAT". We have Intel i3/i5/i7 X000 (x = gen), so AMD came up with ... R3/R5/R7 X000 (x = gen). Edit: Also, why the hell you you bring GPU naming scheme into CPU side?
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- Post #113
- May 27, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

@soresu Wikipedia suggests that pretty much all best selling titles on Switch are typical Nintendo games: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_Nintendo_Switch_video_games Here you have numbers for Witcher 3 (2015, so 2 years before Switch release): PC: ~12 million PS4: ~ 10.8...
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- Post #6
- May 27, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Discussion ARM unveils Cortex A78/X1

Hi, this topic is about yesterdays ARM big announcement - Cortex A78 (which was expected by everyone) and Cortex X1 (which was surprise, I couldn't find any leaks or gossips about new, big core from ARM, closest thing I could find are some extremply sparse info about next year Mattlehorn core)...
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- May 27, 2020
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News AMD Financial Analyst Day 2020: A Lot of Details to Digest

But to do so you have to create bigger (more expensive) die and clock it lower. It's higher cost for AMD, which wants to improve their profit margin.
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- Post #22
- Mar 8, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Info Big Navi - Radeon 5950 XT specs leak.

Why would RDNA3 we heavily influenced by Samsung Exynos? If Samsung wants to change RDNA to their needs, they can do it on their own or ask AMD for help. There is no need to change RDNA3 to fit Samsung needs.
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- Post #61
- Mar 7, 2020
- Forum: Graphics Cards
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Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

10 nm was for shareholders in Cannon Lake i3, CPU that had huge problems with availability and should never exist. They had huge problems with launching production in 10 nm. And even when they managed, they got crappy product. 1 (1,5?) year later Ice Lake launched with mild availability...
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- Post #4,982
- Feb 26, 2020
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking

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