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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Apparently this is their deadline. RDNA launches on the 3rd now. AMD want to chip in on the ADA underwhelming reveal asap :)
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    I don't know, pat seems to be really confident about nodes advantage around 2025+
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    I don't recall amd saving all resources for zen 5.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Silicon valley gossip can be made into oscar nominated hbo limited release :)
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Don't bother. Both amd and intel already know their counterpart performance. and therefore have already priced in these chips accordingly. Look at the recent canadian pricing leaks for both camps and be smug about how you are faster than all the twitter leakers in regards to actual performance :)
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    You think a sub $100 mobo can run those i7s? I don't think so.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Geekbench isn't that great as it doesn't stress the cpu in all aspects needed.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    I think 12100/12400 users need to buy new mobo for the new i7s False. Amd use whatever benchmark that suits them the most. At the moment, there isn't a single benchmark that can capture the whole performance spectrum of zen. I think, to amd, bg is the most appropriate because of avx512.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    I don't know about that to be honest. Main stream market is going away in favor of performance. Consumers are willing to pay for markup. Look at ampere vs rdna2.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Sorry to disappoint you but raptor lake does not matter at all. For alder lake users, raptor is a very very small side grade. For all other users, amd offer a much much better core and platform. Hope this helps.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Don't worry about stats it's the performance that counts :)
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Yes, also a lot of blue screen and random restarts but that's a given. Everything should be ironed out before launch.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    A lot of bugs guys, a lot of bugs. Not as bad as zen 1, but it's bad.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    It's not ideal but remember amd priced in these chips according to competitiveness. Intel price will be +10% at least for raptor lake. Either raptor will be slightly better or zen 4 continue to sells like hot cake. I heard from so many friends working in the industry saying amd is VERY confident...
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    V cache version will only be available for the 7800x3d. I don't know if they will release 7950x3d due to mostly heat. Heat will be a big problem going forward. I'll actually wait until zen 5 unless 3d vcache part will blow raptor lake successor out of the water.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    I reckon amd actually calculate the ipc uplift from spec, then build up the testing suite accordingly.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Announced the same day as raptor lake
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    You're right. .What interests me is that amd chose to include more games this in the geo mean ipc calculation. We'll see if the actual ipc uplift is 13% in a wide range of apps and games, which I hope it should be.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Just take the L and move on or the mods will get mad again.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Same little birdie told me Nov 15th for Rdna 3 :) We'll see.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Huge difference for sure. Another birdie told me march 2024
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    I think 15% over 5950x, over the 5800x3d might be too much.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Where did he say "end of 2024" ?
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    A little birdie told me it's gonna be the same day.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Robert Hallock said the 7950x was running well under 170w in the demo with all cores running well above 5Ghz. It's literally less than a day away, wanna bet something interesting?
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-ryzen-7-7700x-zen-4-cpu-alleged-benchmarks-over-40-percent-faster-than-5950x/ You must post your own commentary along with any link. esquared Anandtech Forum Director
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Another one: Stepping B1. Seems like a buggy launch to me.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    This is correct. Zen 3 is only 11% faster than Zen 2 in cb whereas its actual uplift lies elsewhere. As I recall during zen 1 launch window, amd actually "convinced" maxon to update its suite. Can anyone confirm this ?
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    It's actually the reverse. CB favors intel and the lowest bin zen 4 core is already => highest bin gc core.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Because he knows his reputation is on the line. I have a feeling tom is really trying to get all his source infos early. He had legit sources for sure but for amd I can't say.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    30% faster than standard zen 4 holly molly. I hope this is true.
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    I don't recall amd saing zen 4 is 35% faster in R23?
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Amd apparently spent a lot of transistors for scaling so they ran out of space for higher ipc uplift. Also perf increase due to uplift isn't linear, I was told to expect 25% on average in the best case scenario - what ever that means. They could have done more to be honest but it was time for...
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    Discussion Speculation: Zen 4 (EPYC 4 "Genoa", Ryzen 7000, etc.)

    Just a slight off topic. I followed @SkyJuice60 aka Angstronomics after he leaked the correct zen 4 ipc uplift, awhile back. Same guy just leaked https://www.angstronomics.com/p/amds-rdna-3-graphics. RDNA 3 allegedly is all about area. That means amd is wafer constraint, meaning zen 4 is a...
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