Exceeding Granite Rapids in what ? By 30% or more, people consider such lofty predictions a "bloodbath".
The Zen5 cores are great but they are not 1.5 Generations better. The IPC is similarish, maybe due to the core being more efficient they might clock higher in the same 500W envelope.
You are right, though I won't make any claims about Turin. Intel had the memory subsystem advantage and on the next Epyc it won't change. Furthermore Zen5 is not a generation faster than 8Wide RWC...
And even if Turin turns out to be faster "no pun intended", they don't have the software stack...
You are wasting your time, in some peoples mind AMD can do no wrong ...
Intel produces SKUs with high core and thread count -> what about efficiency, that die must be expensive, who needs that many cores on the go, these are not real cores, I don't want these cinebench accelerators, my battery...
All this doom and gloom, it's crazy as if people are wanting Intel to fail. Good news arrives doubt it and pick it apart until nothing is left, bad news arrives accept without doubt and proceed to call for Intel's end.
In reality the server parts, according to Phoronix, is competitive and Lunar...
This REDWOOD COVE IS SLOWER THAN RAPTOR COVE nonsense needs to stop.
Chips and Cheese made that claim benchmarking a mobile part on a disaggregated first gen die. The real performance of REDWOOD COVE is the real 8Wide version in XEON6. Wait for the performance of that part before extrapolating...
Don't be so doom and gloom.
AMD had its decade of shame and revived, so can Intel.
We are talking about high tech products where basically no one can break into the market.
This is not AMD Bulldozer against Core, this is Intel with competitive products against another competitor, no product...
They seem to be doing fine due to supply chains not being impacted currently, a sanction here, a flood there some wars sprinkled on top and AMD is out of the race. Even Nvidia is waiting to see how the Intel node will pan out before making orders.
Intel must never let go of the fab, x86 is a...
Intel keeping the fab is the only way to not turn into a commodity.
Chips are necessary but consumers don't know or appreciate what type of computing power they have on their hands, it should just work, show insta and play games.
In order to stay necessary to society they cannot become a spoon...
You don't need to be better than TSMC, you just have to be competitive.
Intel 3 is good, 20A is internal and cancelled and 18A if the specs are to be believed, is great as well.
I had a feeling that Intel 20A would not see the daylight.
Their choice to focus on 18A instead of a internal node with no customers, saving 500mil is right by me.
The explanation that the low defect rates of 18A is leading the acceleration is also fine by me.
I can feel the pressure in this...
This!
And that is the GAP in reality CPUs are a black box to maybe 99.995% of society, so someone like MILD and people that love to attach narratives to things, will generate claims and no one really knows if there is even an attachment to reality.
I would love for a channel to exist where an...
Sorry, Leakers are like a religion, you either believe the crap or not. I will stand on the other side, still you opinion is valid. He might be right, he might be wrong.
For me how you come to the message and how you deal with being wrong shows character. Simply hearing X will be faster than Y...
We have no real insight, what MLID is offering is conjecture and is worth nothing, he has no ethics.
And the first sentence is on the money, a real product is what is announced by the manufacturer and can be bought by consumers or businesses.
Everything else is internal development that is not...
AGAIN, Royal Core is not real, it is not a product. You cannot cancel something that never was. This is a normal R&D exercise in the labs. After things are deemed viable or not, aspects are extracted and used in other products.
How can people be this gullible?
He is basically extracting you for...
It in fact does not exist. In the lab where I work we have several codenames for products that start, fail and the lesson learned are merged with the next one. A R&D exercise without a concrete instance is not a product and therefore does not exist. I cannot get sad about a potential something...
Royal core is nothing but a rumor, nothing concrete ever leaked like architecture details, just it is going to be fast, trust me bro.
Intel will survive, they have to otherwise I have lost 10K.
I mean even the 7950x had some wins against the 14900K if things became really MT heavy, hence my remark that the GB6 scores are too clustered in MT to anything.
Again, this is not Gracemont, the SIMD is significantly beefed up, meaning it is still an unknown whether the 9950x really wins or...
I still don't know what GB6 really shows in multi core, everything seems have a ceiling at around 20K points, is it a scaling problem of the bench ?
hopefully this translates well into general performance.
People are sleeping on ARL. Intel has from my perspective a quite simple task of using less power and delivering maybe 5 to 10% more client performance, meaning general purpose performance.
I don't know how big the tile latency penalty will be on desktop but it will be way lower than Zen due to...
I went through the entire release news of the competition, the ball is now in Intel's court.
Give me 10% more ST perf. and 75W less peak power usage and I'm good. Maybe make sure you don't lose the low latency advantage due to the tiles.
Restrict everything to solid defaults and leave...
Intel's current fiasco is due to having no competition and getting lazy.
It is all Intel's fault but in all monopolies, products turn into shiiiiii with no competition.
This is just a fact, they got lazy they had no competition and were slow to react to market changes.
Intel failing is caused...
Intel could sleep and do whatever it liked for at least a decade+. This was due to AMD providing no competition. Headcounts could balloon and their reactivity went down. This is how I explain the current Raptor Lake disaster. They were caught with their pants down and had to throw something...
I still think it is possible. Maybe even Pat has to go in order to push things into the right gear. Pat was hailed and since his return I have been losing money on Intel hmm.... This also just might be the result of healthy competition. Intel could only balloon into this slow whale due to AMD...
Time for the company to be nimble and hungry again. The fabs will only show impact towards the end of the decade.
I'm still bullish on Intel, they have to turn from a blue whale into an orca.
If AMD can do it with a decade+ of garbage, Intel can do it.
Should it not be the case, the consumer...
This might be it.
If Intel really runs this strategy, the core arch will stay one level behind the current one.
And in Q3 2025 I might buy it if it is on a newer node and at least RWC or LNC.
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