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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    I meant to say Arrow lake will be mostly carried by skymont performance due to LNCs lack of HT
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    I forgot about frequency 🥲 but i guess at ISO frequency it should match it
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    I am pretty sure those skymont will have MT equivalent to 12 Zen4 cores in MT Non avx 512 task
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    And enable AVX-512 on those P core dies 🤣
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    RPL Was a product launched in hurry lol it was not as well planned as Intels other products
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Finally Intel made an actual good decision https://videocardz.com/newz/next-gen-z890-motherboards-to-ship-with-intel-default-profile-enabled-by-default
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Yeah but ordinary people are fine with 32 Max it's enthusiasts like us who need 64GB Ram
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    i think you are wrong here cause cause AMD Reserves the Ram permanently unlike intel which only reserves like 128-256MB max everything else is shared pool which is dynamically allocated The performance loss is too much vs the ram loss in VBS sometimes we have so many amazing programs from...
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    IMO asking for 64GB Ram is not wrong
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    From the rumours Xe3 will have 3072 bit XMX engines and 12 XMX unit with upto ~150 TOPS and the FP32 ALU count is 1536
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    32GB should be fine for the target audience also for 64GB we need a denser memory die or larger package size in LNL to accomodate it and i agree with you
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    I am sorry mod 🥲 didn't realise it
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    It is <redacted> people buy 8GB Ram MacBook air thin and light and max memory on air is 24GB iirc LNL has 32 GB Please refrain from using profanity in the tech section. -Moderator Shmee
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    i think in blender it will close the gap Vray/corona nope
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    FCS is a combination of Gaudi + Xe3 anyway that would have been idiocity cause their packing tech is very good this way they will save few $
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Also the advance packing is false in this rumour Intel will use their own advance packing
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Nope here is the brief rest is Fud this month has been full of fud to force intels seperation
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    If Intel Cuts fab time for US to accept they will loose to China in manufacturing 🤣
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Yes with cutdown AVX-512 to save die space
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Btw TSMC cost is also offset due yo lagging node that is just running on equipment and depreciation all it costs is yhe cost of operations of the equipment Intel didn't do that they kep N,N-1 where N is latest now they are moving away they already mixed 14nm into Intel 16 On a side note I don't...
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Yup they reduced the pitches i don't know about EUV layers affect cost More layers means increasing cost that is why Intel 7 is a disaster it uses SAQP basically 4 time scanning and etching with DUV with EUV they would have gotten by single layer saving cost here is a good article...
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    As silicon fly said N2 will be on par with 18A in PPW but will be ahead by 15-20% in terms of density vs 18A , 18A might be slightly cheaper than N2
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    If TSMC says N3P is comparable to 18A you can at least trust TSMC more than Intel.
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Intel for it's Intent never uses HD they need to for their fab buisness but HPC is Intel's speciality also part of TSMC density is due to finflex allowing you to mix and match 2-2 2-1 fins that is what gives the density boost with tighter pitches 18 AP exists for this Rumours yeah sure i can...
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    You mean comparable ? I don't understand people's problems with Intel Fab they got in that state due to BK and Swan BK gutted the funding and Swan didn't do anything after that to save it the only reason intel has such a scale is the fab do you know TSMC copied Intel untill intel F***** up good
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Btw TSMC Said 18A is Comparable to N3P means superior to N3E but Intel 4 is closer to N4 and I3 is closer to N3B which makes Intel 18A closer to N2!! Source https://semiwiki.com/semiconductor-manufacturers/intel/314047-intel-4-presented-at-vlsi/
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    News Intel GPUs - Battlemage officially announced, evidently not cancelled

    Lol why do you think they are betting big on fabs if they succeed at comparable PPA to TSMC every compititor is going to have an issue cause they can drive low end margin products out of market
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    I agree should be around 2-3W range but knowing windows :( Is it the minimum or it can even below LNL has tiles as well it shows superiority of the packing tech they possess
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    They were not kidding idling at 0.17W - 0.5W is insane
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    The CPUID is un changed from software perspective to avoid potential issues
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    9700x/9900x for reference why do i feel like the soc is screwing memory latency a bit
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Yes no doubt about ST perf and efficiency in ST and but in their wallet garden there is no way Intel/AMD could achieve Apple level performance until major changes in their arch
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    We need to manually set Power limit rn it is driven by Dynamic Tuning driver we want the values to be static to properly examine the performance
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Ultra 9 get 130 not 132 127 would be the score at 5.0ghz for 130 considering the delta between OEM settings 124 is ok I think all core power budget would be lower in multicore than in single core
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    I think 700 is way High it should be around 550-600 imo
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    9950X is 10% faster in st cs 13900k if LNC gets 14-16% IPC i guess both will be even in Single Core thanks for running the benches
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Why are we getting disappointed for ST Lmao intel said U9 gets 130 i subtracted 2 points from it(Marketing Tax) and it is 2% faster than 268V so 126 for estimate it get's 124 still good my issue is MT it sucks unless it's on battery it's Thermal throttling rip
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    Discussion Intel Meteor, Arrow, Lunar & Panther Lakes Discussion Threads

    Thanks can you run with a thread affinity to only 1 core ? and maybe we can ask a user in sub with 13900k to bench it maybe hulk
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