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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Intel also benefited from the patch, just not as significant as the Ryzen. It's now only 3% behind, whereas previously it was 5% behind.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Looks like Windows 11 have more issues than we've thought. I assume there will be more data once 24H2 reaches final build.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    So with the new Windows 11 build, you are getting a 10% boost on avg for Zen 4 & 5. Bad news is that it doesn't make Zen 5 any better than Zen 4 in gaming, because their relative position doesn't change.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Say it in English pls. And are we onto something already? or is it just another nothing burger?
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Gaming performance on par with 14900k? Why's there discrepancy between NBC and other review outlets like HUB?
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    We don't know how much the IPC uplift will come into play. Zen 5 did get those uplifts, but it's not showing in games, whereas Zen 3 got a pretty massive boost in games with its claimed IPC uplift.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember I read it from somewhere that intel 3 = intel 7 nm + intel 20A = intel 5 nm intel 18A = intel 5 nm +
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    This is basically what you can expect out of a 105w TDP 9700x. The gap has now been widened from 5% to 15% against 7700x (CB), but efficiency is out of the window, unfortunately. So technically 16% IPC isn’t entirely wrong at iso power, the main concern for most of us is it just isn’t showing in...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Judging by the very low CB multicore number, I would have to assume that 14900k is a relatively nerfed part to make the ARL QS looked good. So ARL 5% stands lol.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    This is the ARL preliminary benchmarks, from Jaykihn at Xwitter. https://x.com/jaykihn0 As a comparison, I pulled Uniko's testing of the recent 9950X. Looking at GB 5.4.5, the QS scored 2455, which trails 9950X by around 5%. Multicore however the QS is winning 9950X by almost 8%, but also...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    It benefitted both Zen 4 to Zen 5. If compared to original Zen 4 data it's now a additional 5% boost to gaming performance. But since the bug is hurting both parts, the gap will not be widened even if it's patched in the future.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Haven't watched it yet. Zen 5 30% IPC incoming!
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    If they somehow manage to hit clock parity with X variant, I genuinely think there’s no point for the existence of lower end X variants. People who are into productivity tasks naturally gravitate toward R9s anyway.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Not sure. Here’s the source of the video. https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV15T421r7jk/ It’ll be on YT sooner or later. See if auto translate will be available.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Cinebench R23 PPT scaling. Regression in very low wattages are also present in Geekerwan’s Strix Point review if I recall correctly. *edit: it was Spec2017 that showed regression from Hawk, R23 was still performing better in every ppt.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Screenshot from Bilibili in 360p, sorry for the bad clarity. It seems like performance uplift is there, so why is the avg application performance showing single digit uplift according to Techpowerup?
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Previously it is said that Arrow Lake simultaneously uses TSMC N3B for the higher end and Intel 20A for i5 non K and below. I'm not sure if this is still the case.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    I posted it last page but I will post it here again. His screenshot is taken from 7:04 Zen 5 is basically in parity with Zen 4 going below 75W. There's the answer. This guy also briefly mentioned the fact that DDR5-6000 is crippling Cyberpunk 2077's performance.
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Efficiency is out of the window for both parts, this is being discussed already. The point is by matching the 7700X with 9700x (105 TDP / 142 PPT), that's where the 10~15% performance gain people are looking for (outside of gaming), so to say Zen 5 is barely an improvement against Zen 4 is plain...
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    Discussion Zen 5 Speculation (EPYC Turin and Strix Point/Granite Ridge - Ryzen 9000)

    Zen 5 isn't what we had hoped for from the gaming perspective, but to say "Zen 5" is a flop suggested by some journalists (HUB) is a bit of a stretch. Sure if you compare it directly with the non X 7000, the efficiency claim is no longer the case. But what if AMD decides to put out a non X 9000...
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