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    Old Timers ROLL CALL!

    Optimus: Good to know you are doing so well. As an ally in such "discussions" (some called them "flame wars") from the old timer days, I must say, "Keep the Faith!"
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    Old Timers ROLL CALL!

    LED: Being an old timer isn't all bad. Consider the following tough old geezer: Tough Old Timer Somehow I don't think 1st person shooter games prove much in light of such a real life situation.
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    Old Timers ROLL CALL!

    Did we ever argue? I think we calmly discussed with perfect clarity and humility and logic all of the great questions of the world with attitudes of perfect respect and gentility ;) I am sure UG and rahvin agree completely with me. They always did. :laugh:
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    Old Timers ROLL CALL!

    Rio Rebel Quote: Hi Rio: I'll chime in. I wouldn't want your thread to fail.
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    How come in Christianity....

    Hi azazyel: About "Q," I find it sad that so much emphasis is put on a document that we don't have rather than on the ones we do have, including non-canonical documents like the Gospel of Thomas, Hermas, Didache, etc. We don't really know (even by historical evidences) whether there ever was a...
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    How come in Christianity....

    azazyel: Regarding the Gospel of Thomas, I do not think it will be included in the canonical books as a general rule. Not that it should not be considered. In fact, there is at least one branch of the Orthodox Church that already accepts the Gospel of Thomas. One should not view the question...
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    How come in Christianity....

    Hello xEDIT409: Regarding this quote: I am sorry the minister responded to you the way he did. But his view does not accurately represent historical Christianity, so please do not make his statement a fundamental part of your assessment of the Christian religion. The historical standard...
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    The Politics of Hate: an Interesting Opinion

    Hi chess9: You are right; all the article represents is Samuelson's opinion. I, for one, have not been as impressed by Samuelson as I have been by someone like David Broder. Still, though I agree with you that "hate" is dangerous hyperbole in journalism, it raises a good point about the level...
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    The Politics of Hate: an Interesting Opinion

    I read an interesting article by Robert Samuelson in the Washington Post. Let's see what the AT P&N crowd thinks about it: What Does the Hatred of Bush Mean? I would particularly note these final paragraphs in the article: Have fun!
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    Coming to Christ has done much good for myself and family.

    I agree with this quote and with Zenmervolts' post, but I think the divorce of religion from morality (though it obviously occurs) reveals a split within us. In the end, I think foundational truth can only be foundational if it is a "unifying connecting principle." But history leaves little...
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    Coming to Christ has done much good for myself and family.

    Eli Quote: We think like that because we are (1) westerners, (2) linear, and (3) mathematical. Nothing wrong with any of those things, but there are other perspectives with insight that are (1) non-western, (2) a line can never enter into another dimension of thought or reality than the ones...
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    Coming to Christ has done much good for myself and family.

    Maybe "worship" is just another name for "declare your center." Maybe that which is the Center (if He exists) would actually want rational beings to center on that which is the Center. Maybe He would want it so badly because centering on the Center actually is a good thing for those who do it...
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    Political Issues & Party Polarization . . .

    Wow- I just read that article and was thinking it would be a good piece of info for AT. So I head to "Politics and News" and here it is! I find the article interesting because AT is so polarized. I think especially this quote is relevant: Maybe AT is so polarized because we are intellectual...
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    Gray Davis an Office Beater!!

    Hey Red Dawn: What kind of comment is this? Wait, I guess I have to agree with it.... I live just a few miles outside DC. Love my friends and family here; jaded to the politics.
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    Gray Davis an Office Beater!!

    chess9: Apparently there is some substance to the charges that Gray Davis abuses his staff. Consider this statement from William Bradley, a California-based, Democratic political analyst. The statement occurred in an online interview with the Washington Post on October 6, 2003: The whole...
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    What is the "liberal" view on home schooling?

    heartsurgeon: Great post. The truth is never cynical. The main attack on home schooling still seems to be the socialization issue, yet that concern has been addressed repeatedly. Furthermore, homeschooling is not what it was even five years ago. It is the fastest growing form of education...
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    What is the "liberal" view on home schooling?

    I agree with this thought. Intellectual arrogance is harmful to the "village" and is strongly entrenched in those who are more academically gifted. Many "public schoolers" are less afflicted with intellectual arrogance than private or homeschoolers. No approach is flawless. They all present...
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    What is the "liberal" view on home schooling?

    Why the -OR- in village -OR- family? Why not a family in a village? I disagree with your conclusion because I disagree with what amounts to (in my opinion) a false dichotomy. Assuming that the parent cares about the child, no one can compare with the parent in reaching that child. My wife (I...
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    What is the "liberal" view on home schooling?

    Well, this subject has come up a few times on Anandtech. I am a product of the public school system. My wife has her M.Ed from the University of Maryland and has taught in the public schools. We currently homeschool our kids, with the present thought seeming to be that we will send them to...
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    We're in trouble.

    Once again rahvin and I agree. This is becoming a strange trend. Is there something wrong with me? ;)
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    AGNOSTIC Accountability Groups Starting Up

    wuffsunie quote: I already owe QT a reply, so I can't give too long reply here before I respond to him :) A few points: 1) The "monstrous" you allude to may mean several things, all of which can fit into a New Testament concept of God. But the New Testament itself says that "we only see as...
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    AGNOSTIC Accountability Groups Starting Up

    melchoir: Romans 2:6-8: The Bible does not say (with a few exceptions) whether any specific individual went (or will go) to heaven or hell. But it does set up a general principle by which God (who knows the heart and knows what any one individual heart has actually, wilfully rejected)...
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    AGNOSTIC Accountability Groups Starting Up

    In other words: Provided "matter" is understood as shorthand for "solely naturalistic/materialistic phenomenon."
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    AGNOSTIC Accountability Groups Starting Up

    QT and Val: Still, you misunderstand my point. I have said several times that I cannot "prove" God exists. My main point is that belief in God is neither rational not irrational. I have said that many in different scientific fields have come to a very rational position that science has...
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    AGNOSTIC Accountability Groups Starting Up

    With his permission, I have posted this PM I sent to QTArrhythmic: To Valsalvayourheartout: As I said above, my use of "matter" was sloppy. I used it as shorthand for "what can be explained by the naturalistic paradigms of current science." You suggested that I was quoting "experts" in...
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    AGNOSTIC Accountability Groups Starting Up

    I noticed that it was surmised that I would not return to the thread. I guess I am a glutton for punishment :) I have received far more brutal responses from others long before Val took his turn. Most of them (I think fondly of UG here), eventually learned to get along with me. Regarding the...
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    AGNOSTIC Accountability Groups Starting Up

    Val's kind summary of my post: 1) You have no way of verifying that statement, and I disagree with your assessment that DID will vanish from the next DSM. By saying that personality is greater than matter, I am stating my belief that, once all of the physical, naturalistic elements are...
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    AGNOSTIC Accountability Groups Starting Up

    From previous threads: Is belief intrinsically irrational and why flame wars are almost innate in religious threads: I would surmise that the large number of seemingly provocative and inflammatory replies by both "born-againers" and "non-born-againers" demonstrates why relationships between...
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    "God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did,"

    Whether the Abbas quote is accurrate or not, we are in a mess. Bush may have casually referenced God because it was culturally expedient to do so, but one wonders if it doesn't capture something of Bush's self-assurance and excessive conviction in such things. We are in a mess. How did we get...
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    Poll: Has the Iraq war affected Bush's credibility?

    With that last paragraph, I am in complete agreement. BTW, I say the Iraq war did affect Bush's credibility. It certainly does with me. But it appears that most Americans do not think so: Majority See Little Credibility Issue and Still Supports Use of Force in Iraq and Iran As Well I find...
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    Poll: Has the Iraq war affected Bush's credibility?

    I think these two links summarize it pretty well. The bottom line is we do not know whether Bush lied or not. If he did, it is not the first time our leaders have lied to us. But John McCain's article really summarizes the situation very well. Do Our Leaders Ever Lie To Us? John McCain and...
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    Rumsfeld Says Iran May Have Nuclear Weapons Soon

    Hi Moonbeam: You pasted: Memes.com: "Memes are Mind Viruses. One needs to be aware of the power, incestuous, and insidious nature of ideas, icons, concepts, and theory. There is a reason why, in mediaspeak, the format of broadcasting is called programming. We are entirely susceptible to the...
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    Rumsfeld Says Iran May Have Nuclear Weapons Soon

    From another thread: ... I think unelected individuals who are brilliant (but sometimes Machiavellian) spend their lives trying to envision what is truly threatening free markets, representative republics, and their own particular vision of what is best for the world came to the conclusion that...
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    Does anyone really have your best interests in mind?

    Our entire system is based on self-interest. Therefore, the benefactors of that system are (almost universally) only going to have your best interests in mind to the degree that those interests coincide with their own. The sad truth is that, when I seek your best interests, I truly do seek my...
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    POLL: Are You A Christian???

    I am a Christian. Regarding the following edit in the original post: I can't defend particular Christians unless I know their particular actions. Some actions are defensible, some are not. Christian or non-Christian. As far as trying to give reasons for the hope that lies within me, I...
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    Do Muslim Terrorists and their Homicidal Maniacs make you distrust the religion and feel anger towards all religions?

    Hi rahvin: I am not trying to pick a fight. My comment was sloppy. I agree that most of the purges were political in nature. The point I would make is that most of the purges in religious systems are really political in nature as well. They aren't born out of any particular tenet of the...
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    Do Muslim Terrorists and their Homicidal Maniacs make you distrust the religion and feel anger towards all religions?

    The Question has two parts: 1. Do Muslim terrorists and their homicidal maniacs make you distrust the religion? -AND- 2. Do the actions of such people make you distrust all religions? "2" is easier to answer. As a general rule, religion does not promote killing any more than any other human...
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    A chronicle: Media question honesty of Bush administration

    Earlier I said: Today in the Washington Post I found: Seeking Free Markets and Representative Republics The United States is a reluctant empire builder. But after two World Wars, the Cold War, and now radical Islamic Fundamentalism, I think the US has decided to take matters into its own...
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    A chronicle: Media question honesty of Bush administration

    What international law did the US break? Moobeam Quote: To the first question: is there a big moral difference? How many Kurds and inhabitants of Basra died because we encouraged the citizens to overthrow a dictator but backed away from military intervention when that dictator crushed them...
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    A chronicle: Media question honesty of Bush administration

    Politics have always been a ruthless business. The United States made it official policy to seek regime change in Iraq back in 1998. Clinton knew Saddam needed to go. Bush, for many reasons, was simply more direct about it. See here for details: Regime Change is the Goal After 9/11 and...
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