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mini itx, flex itx? tiny server computer and where?

How small are you talking? The smaller, the more expensive. I've wanted to do this sort of project for a couple of years now and I can't do it cheap AND small. At the Micr-ATX case level, the case and power supply cost $50 and that still leaves questions about the quality of the PS AND room for...
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- Post #2
- Sep 1, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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Gigabyte 7N400 pro IDE 3 and 4 raid only?

What problems are you haveing with the 8500DV? I have the same MB and the 8500DV with no problems, however, I am on Win2000SP3, not on XP. What other hardware do you have?
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- Post #3
- Jun 25, 2003
- Forum: Motherboards
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[Downgraded] Hot or Not? [Tepid] Dell Server Deals Again

Keltron, you were correct. I verified with Dell. Only $100 total in rebates. I would rate this deal tepid. When compared with the free upgrade on the SCSI drive, free second matching drive (73G Ultra 320 SCSI in my case), instant $250, and $100 MIR deal back in Feb, this deal is tepid...
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- Post #15
- Jun 18, 2003
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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[Downgraded] Hot or Not? [Tepid] Dell Server Deals Again

Keltron, thanks for info on the keyboard, mouse, and documents. I'll check into that. On the extra $100 rebate, it's always hard to tell and I should try to call to be certain. I am fairly certain that it is separate from the INSTANT $200 rebate, which given your total price, you opted not to...
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- Post #14
- Jun 18, 2003
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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[Downgraded] Hot or Not? [Tepid] Dell Server Deals Again

Actually in just about every test I've read in the last couple years, for a single user on a single processor, the SCSI and ATA drives ran pretty darned close. In a couple of recent review (I think one was done by Anandtech, but not sure), the new WD Raptor beat most of the SCSI drives of the...
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- Post #12
- Jun 18, 2003
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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[Downgraded] Hot or Not? [Tepid] Dell Server Deals Again

Actually in just about every test I've read in the last couple years, for a single user on a single processor, the SCSI and ATA drives ran pretty darned close. In a couple of recent review (I think one was done by Anandtech, but not sure), the new WD Raptor beat most of the SCSI drives of the...
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- Post #11
- Jun 18, 2003
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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[Downgraded] Hot or Not? [Tepid] Dell Server Deals Again

To which deals or prices are you referring? I'm actually looking for an excuse NOT to spend this money, but I need to know what you mean by better. (Long DEAD deals are fine for your examples.) I just have to know where our point of reference is here. Thanks in advance.
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- Post #5
- Jun 18, 2003
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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[Downgraded] Hot or Not? [Tepid] Dell Server Deals Again

No advantage per se, but with prices like the ones above--or better--you would be hard pressed to build one cheaper. A 2.8Ghz/533MHz Xeon goes for $467. Any motherboard board with integrated Ultra 320 SCSI is $400+. Even on Ebay, the 32G 10K Ultra 320 drives fetch $125. The point is that it's...
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- Post #4
- Jun 18, 2003
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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[Downgraded] Hot or Not? [Tepid] Dell Server Deals Again

I ordered a 1600SC with the following: --533MHz FSB with 2.0 Xeon--upgraded to 2.4 for free and to 2.8GHz for $99. --single 36G 10K Ultra 320 SCSI drive (any guesses as to the brand???) --first year parts and on-site warranty, years two and three parts next day ($50 I believe) --no OS...
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- Jun 18, 2003
- Replies: 17
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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Tip for Dell Poweredge 600sc owners (memory problem)...

Manuals are for little boys! Real men don't read the manuals! ....just kidding--same thing happened to me, except on the 1600SC. It's amazing what you can learn in those little books. Actually, I had a 256M ECC nonregistered module. When I put it in with the OS install option set, it...
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- Post #2
- Jun 16, 2003
- Forum: Motherboards
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Formatting problem with XP

I'll ask a couple dumb questions and show how dense I really am.... Which devices does WIndows XP have to load to get going? Is the floppy drive one of them? When you say your floppy is broken, is it disabled in the BIOS. If not, that may be where Windows is crashing. It sees it, but can't get...
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- Post #5
- Jun 12, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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$400 For Tech Support?

I have a Panflo brushless case fan in my hand. The label says 0.1 amp. Now the case and CPU fans do vary quite a bit, but 8 of my fans would pull less than 1 amp. What is the current load of other fans people have around. Now the optical drives can be unplugged to test that hypothesis. I...
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- Post #12
- Jun 12, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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$400 For Tech Support?

My uneducated suggestions: 1. Pull everything off it, the video card, any other cards, drives, and even the memory. Of course, CPU with heatsink and fan are in. You may have to leave the drives plugged into the power if you have a PS that needs a minimum load. (Anyone????)...
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- Post #9
- Jun 11, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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Biostar Head Scratcher: Help for the perplexed

thanks for the reply. Is memtest86 DOS or Win based? I should go look. Of course, if it's windows based, I can't get far enough to test it. -Optimist Edit: Well three minutes later, I got it and can use it in DOS. Thanks. I'll report back!
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- Post #3
- Jun 11, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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Biostar Head Scratcher: Help for the perplexed

I have a Biostar M6VLR (socket 370, 82C686B, integrated everything) with a Celeron 1.0G, a single 512M 133MHz SDRAM memory module, one floppy, one CD-RW drive and one 30G WD 7200 drive. I originally installed WinXP Prof on this up about six months ago with no problems. I installed SP1 in there...
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- Jun 10, 2003
- Replies: 2
- Forum: Computer Building
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This Biostar a black hole (M6VLR head scratcher)

I have a Biostar M6VLR (socket 370, 82C686B, integrated everything) with a Celeron 1.0G, a single 512M 133MHz SDRAM memory module, one floppy, one CD-RW drive and one 30G WD 7200 drive. I originally installed WinXP Prof on this up about six months ago with no problems. I installed SP1 in there...
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- Jun 9, 2003
- Replies: 0
- Forum: Motherboards
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is my cpu defective?? help appreciated!!

What I find interesting is that you say the system is locking up more at night that during the day. That makes it much more of a paradox than bad a P.S., CPU, or other temperature or load suspects. Usually a CPU works or doesn't work; it's not a car engine in that it "wears out" over time. (Of...
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- Post #12
- May 29, 2003
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Physical Differences between Pentium 4 and Xeon?

I'll go out on a limb here and let someone correct me. In terms of cost (to Intel) I don't think there is much difference between the two CPUs. But what matters is that, unlike AMD, you have to have the Xeons to run in a multiple processor setup (although a single Xeon will run alone). Heh, I...
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- Post #2
- May 29, 2003
- Forum: CPUs and Overclocking
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Where to get mid-size case with 120m fans?

Thanks for the info. I've had a couple of the Antecs in the past. Good solid cases. So, unless I can find something alsmost as good for a lot cheaper, I will probably go with the one Budman pointed out. Now I have to look around on NewEgg or Antec to see the price without the P.S. The reason...
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- Post #6
- May 23, 2003
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Where to get mid-size case with 120m fans?

OK, I found one myself, an Antec. Any others?
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- Post #2
- May 22, 2003
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Where to get mid-size case with 120m fans?

A couple of months ago, I bought a PowerEdge 1600SC during one of the Dell server deals. What I like the most about the server is the case, especially the large 120mm case fans. I would like to find a similar case to build my next desktop system and I'm not rich enough to puy another server...
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- May 22, 2003
- Replies: 12
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Red Hat Linux 7.1 4.99

I have installed RH8.0 on at least 10 different machines and, in most cases, it 'wanted' the first three CDs. If memory serves, I believe the minimal workstation option was the only install which did not require the three CDs. (But no bets on that.) The real problem is that if you don't have...
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- Post #30
- Apr 7, 2003
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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COMPUTER DOES NOT BOOT UP

A small aside---does this thing have a warranty? If so, make certain that you stay within the terms of the warranty. Some companies--especially a few of the smaller resellers---will look for any reason to void a warranty. As someone pointed out, you have to hope that the speaker is hooked up...
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- Post #5
- Apr 3, 2003
- Forum: Motherboards
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Siemens 5 port switch 9.99 after rebate

A word of caution about the rebate... I bought a Siemens phone from Fry's/Outpost last year, which included a rebate for $40 from Siemens. The rebate was rejected because I didn't buy it from Fry's, but from Outpost (which is what is on the top of the mail order invoices). I complained to...
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- Post #5
- Mar 27, 2003
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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Dell 1600SC memory upgrade: what, where, and how much?

Thanks for the posts. The Crucial is the safest, but also the pretty expensive relative to other suppliers (not relative to Dell). Off hand, do you know the components of those crucial SIMMs? -Optimist
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- Post #7
- Mar 12, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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Dell 1600SC memory upgrade: what, where, and how much?

bump (and then I'll give up...)
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- Post #3
- Mar 11, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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Dell 1600SC memory upgrade: what, where, and how much?

It seems buying ECC registered memory is like shopping for a different component than regular DDR memory. Yes, I know there was another post on upgrades for the 1600SC, but it sort of fizzled out. So for my own selfish reasons, I thought I would try it again.... If you have SUCCESSFULLY...
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- Mar 11, 2003
- Replies: 7
- Forum: Computer Building
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Red Hat Linux 8.0 Installation Problems

After you installed in text mode, before you invoked X (with the startx) command, did you do the configuration of X? That was the part with the redhat-config-xfree. If you didn't do the config, then I wouldn't expect it to work. If you're happy with RH 7.3, you're all set anyways.
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- Post #4
- Mar 7, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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Brain Buster (Or is my brain busted?)

Thanks both for the replies. Replacement insurance. That's a hoot. Maybe the United Way or the National Republican Headquarters, but most nonprofits are lucky to have liability insurance. I did replace the battery and moved the jumper around (three possibilities on this board...
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- Post #4
- Mar 7, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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losing video during windows xp install

Since WinXP is installed with the old card, can you boot up in safe mode with the Radaon? That would at least point to a device sharing problem. What sound card do you have (Soundblaster Live and Audigy cards are notorious fighters with ATI cards). Is the BIOS setup with ACPI enabled or...
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- Post #6
- Mar 7, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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Brain Buster (Or is my brain busted?)

OK I'll show how little I really knowhere... I'm helping to set up a network for this nonprofit. A couple weeks ago, we ran into a little technical setback. WIth all the snow and rain around here (Maryland), and a broken drain pump, I came in to the site to find three of the computers bobbing...
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- Mar 7, 2003
- Replies: 3
- Forum: Computer Building
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which PCI slots are shared?

Some manuals have the info on what slots are sharing. I don't know Gigabyte. Also, sometime, you can uncover the information in the BIOS by looking at what devices are sharing which interrupts. I've moved a soundcard and a network card from slot to slot to slot before just to map out the...
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- Post #4
- Mar 7, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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Red Hat Linux 8.0 Installation Problems

Until more knowledgeable people come along, I'll take a stabe (<<-- [Later] Holy cow! The correct spelling for word back there was censored!!!! Oh Brave new world!) I just read your message over again, but am still not sure. Is the install failing right in the beginning when it tries to go...
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- Post #2
- Mar 7, 2003
- Forum: Computer Building
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(Dead) Dell PowerEdge 600SC 1.8Ghz Cel Svr 128MB 40GB 7.2K HD for $324.15(MIR) Free Ship (Free 2nd IDE HD)

This is probably a silly question for the techies of server iron, but here goes anyways: Who makes the motherboard for the 600SC? Are Serverworks boards all made by Intel or is it just like desktop chipsets, where (almost) anyone can license the chipsets from the company and make a board? I...
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- Post #141
- Feb 28, 2003
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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Whirlpool Gas Water Heaters @ Lowes - $30 MIR

Now just wait a minute! What does the heater do to the water that has been heated already (it's hot water...just not hot enough), dump it? It heats that hot water, doesn't it? So it's a hot water heater! Actually I'm just sympathizing with another user of this fickle and entirely illogical...
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- Post #3
- Feb 10, 2003
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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17" Dell Flat Panel For $415.20 Shipped - $390 Today only with coupon!!

OK, this isn't EXACTLY related, but I just find it too ironic not to bring it up here (and to compliment Dell). This is a short story comparing Dell and Airborne Express on one hand with TigerDirect and UPS on the other hand. This morning I'm on the telephone trying to straighten out a lost...
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- Post #32
- Nov 22, 2002
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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17" Dell Flat Panel For $415.20 Shipped - $390 Today only with coupon!!

When I went to the Dell site to order one of the 17in LCD (the cheaper one), I looked all over H--er-all over the place--for the length of warranty. No luck. So I called and talked to a sales rep, who said (politely) that it was towards the bottom of the technical specifications page. Then we...
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- Post #27
- Nov 21, 2002
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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MAG 18" 1280x1024 .279mm Multimedia Black LCD - $499

I'm sure people have noticed that this unit (maybe all Mags??) have a one year limited warranty. Of course, what they mean by limited warranty can easily: " ....be obtained by mailing a self addressed, stamped envelope to the address below and requesting the warranty for item number: M925-1804...
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- Post #5
- Oct 16, 2002
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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HOT! Sonic Blue PROGEAR Wireless TabletPC - $599

Could anyone tell me where to get the newer bios for the LX besides the Yahoo site. Last time I signed up for a Yahoo account, for one day, it took me 5 months to get out and stop getting dozens of email messages a day. -Optimist
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- Post #61
- Jun 23, 2002
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways
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HOT! Sonic Blue PROGEAR Wireless TabletPC - $599

OK I just went through the same nightmare of ordering. I actually got far enough that my credit card company rejected the order (for $2800). I got on the phone and was putting in my "56 minutes average wait time," when I hit the back button a couple of times and the price said $599. (Mind you I...
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- Post #57
- Jun 18, 2002
- Forum: Hot Deals and Giveaways

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