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Please help me with how to damp an alluminium case

Frankly.....Aluminum cases have little advantage over steel cases, other than looks. If you hard mount the hard drives to an aluminum frame, there's some cooling benefit. That's about it. Weight.....by the time a case is stuffed with everything else, the actual weight of the case itself is only...
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- Post #18
- Jun 7, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Looking for a software fan controller

The T-Balancer is probably the ultimate in auto-fan control. You can add-on to the main unit.....a MiniNG will plug right in, adding two more independently controllable fan channels. By the time you buy all the options available, you've got an expensive setup....but the best. The Theta...
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- Post #8
- Jun 3, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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smoke for testing airflow in case

Normally air enters a case through many openings, so unless the smoke bomb can supply the smoke everywhere, you'll only get a vague idea of what's happening inside using a case side window. A better setup would be a DD5 (DigitalDoc 5)......with eight external temperature sensors. Combine that...
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- Post #2
- May 30, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Intel fan...stops trembling when i touch it.

It's not really an Intel fan......Intel just buys these cheap HSFs from somebody and puts their label on them. It simply sounds like a loose fit of the fan retention bracket to the heatsink. Post a few pictures and maybe somebody can help. There are a bunch of different-looking Intel OEM HSFs...
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- Post #9
- May 28, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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"Oscillating" fan noise

I think Fullmetal Chocobo has it covered. This sort of fan noise happens when two fans create the noise when running at the same time. Turning off one or the other should stop the sound. If that cures the problem......it might be time for a fan swap, or a fan rpm change. A different fan even at...
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- Post #8
- May 23, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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[WIP] cardboard case!

The fire thing is something I wouldn't worry about. The flash point of cardboard is way higher than any point of a computer. Of course if something in your computer shorts out, or blows up, many things could burn. I've heard stories of flames shooting from a failing GPU, and power supplies...
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- Post #9
- May 19, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Where can I go to cut a side window on my case?

This is the exact reason I prefer to use a Weiss tin-snip when possible, rather than a Dremel......no metal chips flying around (nasty stuff). When using a jig-saw you stand a real possibility of marking up the edges of the cuts by the bottom guide-plate of the saw. I almost never use a jig-saw...
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- Post #12
- May 10, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Where can I go to cut a side window on my case?

It's not hard if the sheet metal is not too thick. You can cut .8mm steel or 2mm aluminum fairly easily. Get much thicker and you need really strong hands. Get a new Weiss tin-snip..... you won't regret it. Other brands just don't work as well. If you're right handed, you want the model that...
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- Post #6
- May 6, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Where can I go to cut a side window on my case?

That's going to cost too much...... unless somebody takes pity on you. Simpler..... buy a Weiss tin-snip. Mask the area of the hole and pencil in your hole, then drill a 1/2" hole in the center of the intended hole. Snip away in a spiral till you get to your hole size. Practice a little on...
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- Post #3
- May 6, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Project: Silent AC Rocketfish

Exactly how you would/should mod this thing depends a lot on how serious you are about keeping it quiet......and if you intend to keep the door. There's enough space behind the door for a modest amount of airflow from a bay fan setup. If you remove the door, you'll improve the airflow quite a...
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- Post #4
- May 6, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Project: Silent AC Rocketfish

Another Rocketfish thread? This case is so big, any number of mods are possible..... I even managed to install two different MBs in mine(photos). If you're trying for a more standard setup that's quiet, this case has a big problem......a badly restricted intake airflow. The little vent holes on...
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- Post #2
- May 6, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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RocketFish Case

FWIW.....I just found another of these cases at BestBuy in Ellisville, Mo for $50. It was the last one there. So I suppose there are some of these still left at that give-away price. Don't know what I'll do with this case, maybe just keep it for spare parts. The fans are worth at least $8 ea...
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- Post #24
- May 2, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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RocketFish Case

Well I'm not bored with my Rocketfish....... there's enough room to pull off any sort of mod, including a dual-mother board setup. I doubt there's any of these cases left for the $50 I paid, but you might get lucky. I've only got a few complaints....I wish the aluminum had been slightly...
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- Post #20
- May 2, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Oh No, i assembled a noisy device with antec's p182

I'll just bet the new RMA PSU will sound exactly the same as the one you have now. Here's what I'd do...... when you get the new PSU immediately E-Bay the thing, and then buy a different brand that is really quiet. If you want the quietest possible, post the question on SPCR. They'll probably...
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- Post #13
- May 1, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Oh No, i assembled a noisy device with antec's p182

Rather than just guessing.....find out what really is making the most noise. Then replace it. It's easy enough.....start up your computer with a straw or something stopping a fan from starting to spin. After a few seconds, pull out the straw. You can isolate a particular fan and find the guilty...
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- Post #7
- Apr 30, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Oh No, i assembled a noisy device with antec's p182

No...excessive noise is not normal. Your noisy PSU is the first thing to change. Seasonic makes a bunch of quiet models. The new Enermax models are now the top-rated quiet PSUs on SPCR (SilentPC Review).
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- Post #2
- Apr 29, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Looking for a 92x92x20 case fan

It's true that you can find non-standard fan sizes in mfg. catalogs, but actually finding one for sale somewhere is next to impossible....... that includes 92x20. The only fans commonly available even close to that size..... Yate Loons 120x20, and a Scythe 100x12. Jabtech has the Yates and...
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- Post #4
- Apr 28, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Picked up another Rocketfish FT

The really bad parts of this case are the thin side panels. They rattle/resonate and offer little noise blocking. A heavy window on the left panel would help. Here's what I did....I lined the inside of both panels with Dynamate-type stuff. Then I covered that with Paxmate. I measured the weight...
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- Post #27
- Apr 19, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Picked up another Rocketfish FT

Here's my dual MB Rocketfish I've been playing with for a few weeks. FWIW..... the BestBuy in Ellisville, Mo. had three left this afternoon @ $49.
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- Post #25
- Apr 18, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Rocketfish by Lian Li Aluminum Full Tower Case - first impressions

Yeah they're 1/8" rivets. The only problem you might have drilling them out.....if the rivet comes loose and starts to spin with the drill. Then you'll have to grind or chisel the thing. Sometimes you can snip them off from behind with a side-cutter. It's usually an easy job to drill them however...
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- Post #99
- Apr 15, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Rocketfish by Lian Li Aluminum Full Tower Case - first impressions

Drill them out......1/8" drill. No sweat. I've never seen a different tool to do that job....
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- Post #97
- Apr 14, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Replacing stock fans...

Well I've got one of those cases...... the Lian Li fans are pretty good. As far as getting more airflow at the same noise level goes, good luck. More airflow usually means more noise. Not much you can do about that. Manufacturer's specs on CFM and noise are mostly fantasy. At medium speeds...
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- Post #9
- Apr 14, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Anyone here use the scythe slipstream 110cfm fan?

Well I disagree.....IMHO, you don't need to go to such extremes to get a pretty good idea how a fan reacts to restriction effects. I made a little box with removable filters, and attached different fans on the other end.......then measured rpm drops at different voltages, and with different...
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- Post #15
- Apr 13, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Anyone here use the scythe slipstream 110cfm fan?

It's sort of an apples/oranges thing. I am concerned about restriction effects on relatively slow fans......since I would never use a noisy, high CFM fan. That's why my testing mostly involved slower fans. I ran about 25 different fans through the same series of tests.....although I only...
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- Post #13
- Apr 13, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Anyone here use the scythe slipstream 110cfm fan?

In the final series of tests, the best of the fans handled resistance almost equally. The differences were too close to judge. Another set of tests would scramble the order of finish. In other words......the Slip-Stream handled airflow resistance with the best of the fans. There was no clear...
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- Post #10
- Apr 12, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Anyone here use the scythe slipstream 110cfm fan?

Well I doubt you could put much more restriction on a single fan than that last link I just posted. And I went through a lengthly fan test before I built the setup in that last link I just posted. The Slip-Stream is handling the restriction without problems. Just what fan do you propose would...
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- Post #8
- Apr 12, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Anyone here use the scythe slipstream 110cfm fan?

DerwenArtos12...... I'm not sure where you got that last bit of information, but I've found the Slip-Stream fans to handle "static pressure" as well as most fans, including the Noctua P12 which is designed to handle airflow resistance. Actually the Slip-Stream seems to handle resistance as well...
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- Post #6
- Apr 12, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Will degaussing a hard drive cause damage?

I accidentally (don't ask) got an electro-magnet close to two running hard drives (two maxtors). It totally wiped all the data off both drives, but did no other damage. Don't try this unless you're real brave....:D
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- Post #9
- Apr 9, 2008
- Forum: Computer Building
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Correct way to use Temp Sensors?

You can place those sensors anywhere without fear of melting.......however. Don't place them between the heatsink and the CPU. They'll be crushed and the heatsink will not make contact properly. The best place for them is as close to the heat source as possible. Here's one way I use that...
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- Post #5
- Apr 9, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Want to use laptop slim drive DVD burner with ATX case. Where can I get the adapter?

Google for "Scythe Kama Panel"........It's a 5.25" bay device that holds a laptop optical drive, as well as a card reader, fan controller, a bunch of ports, etc. It comes with a big box of cables, as well as the adapter for the optical drive (they're not all the same however). I bought two...
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- Post #3
- Apr 7, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Side panel fan question/ezperiment

Just trying to be diplomatic.....but as you say, SilenX specs=pure lies. :|
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- Post #7
- Apr 4, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Side panel fan question/ezperiment

My guess would be that the Thermaltake fans are not pushing as much air as the specs would have you believe, particularly when blowing into a resistance. Companies like Thermaltake and SilenX, are guilty of much exaggeration in this area.
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- Post #5
- Apr 4, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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How can I put a load on my PC to test it under load?

I use CPUBurn and ATItool at the same time.....gets everything about as hot as I can stand. On my current project, the current draw is 105w at an idle. With those two programs running, the current draw increases to 290w. Stressful enough on the two most critical parts...
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- Post #6
- Apr 4, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Whats the dif between the Xigmatec S1283 and the Red Scorpion version

DerwenArtos12.......you need to browse SPCR more frequently. Apparently, according to extensive fan testing in the SPCR labs, a brittle clear plastic fan frame transmits vibration/resonance sounds easier than the softer plastic in the common black frames. It's not a monster difference.....but...
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- Post #11
- Mar 27, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Looking for people who have had ESD issues with Apevia X-Qpack 2

The last I-Star case/setup I built, came with front USB ports (of course), attached to a plastic front bezel. The little steel USB/audio port holder box, had a separate ground wire attached to one of the black USB ground wires, right at the port. The other end of this wire had a ring terminal...
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- Post #6
- Mar 26, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Looking for people who have had ESD issues with Apevia X-Qpack 2

I've experienced similar shocking/re-boot problems with different systems (no hardware failures though). In every case the problem was solved with extra grounding wires. A ground wire from the case to the MB, a ground wire from the case to the black wire of a front USB port, a ground to a metal...
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- Post #4
- Mar 26, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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multiple windows (XP) desktops

I use Virtual Desktop Manager (the powertoy) on several machines, and have had good luck... Try it, since it's free.
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- Post #6
- Mar 23, 2008
- Forum: Operating Systems
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Rocketfish by Lian Li Aluminum Full Tower Case - first impressions

ericlp..... I filter all the cases I build for myself, and putting a filter on the bottom is the best way to get a big, easily removable filter. Normally I'd build an external housing that the case sat on, but since this case is so tall, that's out of the question. I expect to use some wider...
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- Post #79
- Mar 23, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Rocketfish by Lian Li Aluminum Full Tower Case - first impressions

My dual MB Rocketfish will take a while to finish, but I posted a few pictures and the initial write-up at SPCR. It'll be air-cooled and mostly positive pressure. No exhaust fans should be necessary. The lower filtered intake chamber is finished, along with the swing-out MB tray for the second...
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- Post #74
- Mar 22, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling
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Rocketfish by Lian Li Aluminum Full Tower Case - first impressions

A window in the left panel would be an easy mod. Cutting the hole is simple enough.... the tough part is the attachment of the glass (plastic) and making the edge look nice. On a previous case mod, I found a large, thin, picture frame. I cut an appropriate sized square opening, and attached...
- Bluefront
- Post #67
- Mar 21, 2008
- Forum: Cases & Cooling

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