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    Karl Rove possibly tried for perjury?

    http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_6981.shtml "The Bush Administration is scrambling behind the scenes to stop a criminal indictment against Presidential advisor Karl Rove for disclosing classified information to reporters in an attempt to discredit a White House critic...
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    NPR and GOD!!! well godless america:o

    Jacob, Let's not go quoting actual facts and constitutional writings now. Better to introduce hyperbole, conjecture, and hearsay into the argument.
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    "Democracy" as control

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/shaffer/shaffer107.html Great stuff. An excerpt: In a post-Renaissance world of enlightenment thinking, the "divine right of kings" explanation could no longer be counted upon by the political class to justify its rule. A new sales gimmick was required. On the...
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    Examples of State using war as control over population

    The State has a long history of using war as a control over "its" people and solidify power. Examples? I'll start it off: 1. Nazi Germany
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    Why do conservatives and liberals see State as solution?

    Don't you know you roll over at 20,000? :beer:
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    Is having a Christian president something to fear?

    Great post. And right on the money. Unfortunately, some people will never get it.
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    Why do conservatives and liberals see State as solution?

    Connies: Abortion, trade balances, gay issues, culture and religion, immigration, media, etc. Libbies: Income distribution, social security, race, etc. The Connie position is especially perplexing, as they claim to be anti-government. Yet they still want to control as much as they...
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    What do the apologists think?

    It's ok to question the media when it serves your cause, right connies? But when the media serves as an attack against the libbies, you must then attack those who question, no matter how ridiculous the charge, including presidential murder and rape. Whatever it takes to further your agenda --...
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    Pat Tillman's family is pissed off!

    Anything goes if it supports the Power of the State, right connies?
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    PropaGannon - Secret Service Logs on Guckert show 202 White House visits

    Conservatives have no standards. None. That's why a gay escort -- a man who screws other men for money -- was their leading voice in the press corps, and lied about it. Deal with it. Hey, if you want to screw other men and get paid for it, fine. But why lie about it to boot? More...
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    Four dead after anti-American riots erupt in Afghanistan

    If so, we've got a lot of those Cave Trolls over here.
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    What were all the horrible and disgusting things that Rove and Bush accused McCain and his wife of during 2000 primaries

    Yes, what a great American.
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    who thinks there should be a new political party?

    Definitely. How about a party that seeks to solve problems, rather than blame others for them?
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    Why are anti-gay advocates themselves gay?

    I just don't get it. Is it a way of dealing with homosexual feelings and tendencies? Or a way of throwing others off the trail of personal homosexual activities?
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    Intelligent Design/Evolution War:4-20-06 Georgia Governor signs Laws putting Bible Class in all schools and Commandments

    Makes you wonder about the impact on science and technology in this country. Malfeas, where's the first quote of your sig from?
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    [Spokane Mayor] West tied to sex abuse in '70s, using office to lure young men

    F&ck, that's some crazy psychological sh!t going on in that party. Gay Old Party indeed. Or is it Guckert Old Party? Ah, it's only sex with men, right? Or boys, as the case may be. Just how many of these anti-gay connies are actually hiding in the closet?
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    Reaganites blast Bush Administration

    "Neocons," write the authors, "always emphasized unilateral military force ('preemptive and unilateral war') as America's first and often only option," ignoring America's "soft power," political or economic, as a means to attain international objectives. They quote neocon Max Boot, who wrote in...
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    Ray Charles dead at age 73

    Sad news. :(
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    Fahrenheit 9/11 to be released June 25th

    Bush looks like my grandmother swinging the driver.
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    Republicans Can't Handle the Truth

    Great post, Robert. As the article suggests, in this way, those like Carville and Hannity are much more alike than they would ever care to admit.
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    Journalists begin abandoning Right Wing Media

    Good link. Brock was part of it, and tells it like it is.
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    Big Government Republicans

    http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0504/0504mccaintax.htm "Within the GOP, it seems as if there is a choice between those who believe fiscal responsibility means raising taxes to sustain balanced-budget socialism versus those who think that low taxes and high spending are a...
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    Stranger and stranger...the ongoing testimony of Richard Clarke..

    What part of this don't you understand?
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    Stranger and stranger...the ongoing testimony of Richard Clarke..

    I thought only liberals misquoted, mischaracterized, and quoted out of context. Which leaves one of two possibilities: 1. Conservatives misquote, mischaracterize, and quote out of context. 2. Heartsurgeon is a liberal. So which is it?
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    The neocons? delusions

    http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/26/david-corn.php "The neocons? aspirations ? and illusions (or delusions) ? were placed on display recently, when Thomas Donnelly, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (a.k.a. Neocon Central Command), presented a paper at a conference titled, without...
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    NeoCons Duped by Iran

    This has to be the most idiotic administration in American history. http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uschal0522,0,340595.story?coll=ny-top-span-headlines
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    Meet The Press: Russert - His press aid ended the interview early!!

    Amen to that.
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    Military and true conservatives disgusted with Big Government Bush NeoCons

    "this neocon argues that certain tools are permissible to use. For instance: ?Lying is central to the survival of nations and to the success of great enterprises, because if our enemies can count on the reliability of everything you say, your vulnerability is enormously increased.? What about...
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    Military and true conservatives disgusted with Big Government Bush NeoCons

    Exactly right, preslove. One article on this: http://www.opendemocracy.net/debates/article-3-77-1542.jsp
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    NeoCon Republicans raising Taxes faster than Democrats ever did

    Great post, Hafen.
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    Military and moderates speak out

    From UPI: "Rumsfeld and his team of top lieutenants have therefore now lost the confidence, trust and respect of both the Army and intelligence establishments. Key elements of the political establishment even of the ruling GOP now recognize this."...
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    Bush Lied?

    Agreed. I think you've explained the details of this issue exactly as they should be explained.
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    Bush Lied?

    Buz, from my perspective, Powell did not attempt to undermine Bush. Powell simply explained that lies were stated about Iraqi WMD from a source that we now know is questionable, and that he regrets using the bad intel. No sidestepping, no excuses, no denials, and no spin. Which I think helps...
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    Powell calls some pre-war WMD info "deliberately misleading"

    I'm not sure what the issue is -- Powell stated what he now knows, how that differs from what he earlier believed, and how the erroneous information appeared.
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    Powell calls some pre-war WMD info "deliberately misleading"

    Stick? The issue was mentioned in passing in the "Bush Lies?" thread. This is certainly important news in itself, and deserves its own thread. If not, the mods can lock the topic if they deem it inappropriate or against forum rules.
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    Powell calls some pre-war WMD info "deliberately misleading"

    I think Powell just realizes that he blew it on this issue, and wants to set the record straight. From the NYT: "Basically, Powell now believes that the Iraqis had chemical weapons, and that was it," said an official close to him. "And he is out there publicly saying this now because he...
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    White House used unreliable defector

    More info on the bad intel about WMD: "The Bush administration helped rally public and congressional support for a preemptive invasion of Iraq by publicizing the claims of an Iraqi defector months after he showed deception in a lie detector test and had been rejected as unreliable by U.S...
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    Bush Lied?

    Buz, Do a search for "Powell" in this forum. You'll find another post on this exact topic that I started earlier today. This might give you a better idea of where I stand on this. Time to stop reading in what you "think" I meant. I would not try to mischaracterize Powell -- he is one of...
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    Hoffa Suggests a Kerry-Gephardt Ticket

    "He's going to be fine on trade," Hoffa told reporters. "I think this has absolutely gotten through to this man." Thinly-veiled threat? :D This ticket would be an instant loser for the Dems -- let's see if Kerry can get one right.
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    Bush Lied?

    Just show where I said all WMD, or chemical, nuclear, and biological WMD, and so on, when quoting Powell. If you can't (and I know you can't, because I didn't), then you mischaracterized what I said, and are guilty of the very "liberalism" you so decry. Good luck with this.
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