‘This is crazy,’ sobs Utah hospital nurse as cop roughs her up, arrests her for doing her job

[disappoint]

What's also surprising is he think he'd be able to get a conviction with illegally obtained evidence. The nurse may very well have saved the case against the driver if they do wind up getting a warrant and it showing he was under the influence. The problem was he was so put off by due process that the window might have passed. I wonder how long getting a warrant would have taken?

He couldn't get a warrant because of lack of probable cause. He was absolutely incompetent at his job and he still has that job. Lack of leadership. Lack of courage in leadership. It's rampant in society today. I'm watching a video on leadership so that may be why it's on the forefront of my mind right now. Warning: It's an hour long, but it's good. https://youtu.be/LiKWQQ6J7EI

Edit: By leadership I don't mean his boss. Any one of those officers at the scene could have immediately taken a leadership role if they had the courage to. His boss may be the authority, but may or may not be an effective leader.

 

[Perknose]

He couldn't get a warrant because of lack of probable cause. He was absolutely incompetent at his job and he still has that job.

Pretty much says it all.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Immediate Termination and forfeiture of accrued benefits. Nurse sues for more compensation.

Unfortunately there's this thing called ERISA which protects any benefits earned. However, I feel the same way that people like this should have to give up everything.

As long as they are shielded from facing the consequences of their actions they'll behave any way they please which is not the way reasonable people act. Cops should all have to watch the Andy Griffith Show and Adam 12 to see how it should be.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Unfortunately there's this thing called ERISA which protects any benefits earned. However, I feel the same way that people like this should have to give up everything.

As long as they are shielded from facing the consequences of their actions they'll behave any way they please which is not the way reasonable people act. Cops should all have to watch the Andy Griffith Show and Adam 12 to see how it should be.

https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/retirement/erisa

I didn't read anything past that page. Based on that, not sure if police would be covered.

Even if they are, I think changing it would be beneficial to our society.

 

[Paladin3]

...And imho the only reason they wanted a blood draw of the victim is to cover their own asses if the guy sues since he was injured as a result of a police chase...

Agreed. The officer was hoping he'd get lucky and the truck driver had maybe consumed a beer with his lunch. Any trace of alcohol in his blood and they have an additional scapegoat to blame for their pursuit resulting in a wreck that killed one and burned another half-to-death.

 

[OutHouse]

well the mayor is pissed about this and the AG and chief are going to investigate. hope the punishment is swift and harsh.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/officer-arrested-utah-nurse-viral-050943633.html

 

[Sonikku]

This country more and more feels like a police state.

 

[Paladin3]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/01/health/utah-nurse-arrest-police-video/index.html

The arrest happened over a month ago on July 26th. It says so several paragraphs down in the story but I missed it.

The only reason it is making news and we are hearing about it now is because talks between the hospital/nurse and the involved police departments have been unproductive. "Wubbels said the lack of "forward progress" they felt in those meetings spurred them to come forward this week..."

And only now the arresting officer and another unnamed officer have been put on administrative leave, after the story gets out and causes public outcry. The very definition of integrity is doing what you should when nobody is watching. The Salt Lake City PD did nothing until forced to by public outcry. Very telling.

The crash victim who had his blood drawn, nurse and hospital need to file suit and/or push the DA to file criminal charges. Unless that is done the SLCPD will go back to business as usually when the public forgets about this story in a few weeks.

 

[TheVrolok]

Can we get this guy some "free" military surplus equipment please?

 

[Puffnstuff]

Can we get this guy some "free" military surplus equipment please?

That guy needs to be drug out of his home in full restraints and thrown into pretrial confinement so he can answer for his crimes against that little nurse who was only trying to do her job to the best of her ability.

 

[MagnusTheBrewer]

Which country is "africa"?

The one with all the "darkies," duh!

 

[Jhhnn]

Sometimes it feels like we're in africa with all the political violence and intimidation coming from the left.

Imagine how black people feel with the Klan marching down their street...

 

[bob4432]

This country more and more feels like a police state.

Guess it depends on where you live....

 

[bshole]

This country more and more feels like a police state.

Well we do rely on the police for public order. They are absolutely necessary. The incidents of police brutality and overstepping of their authority are nothing new. The difference is that many incidents become national news now. I would be willing to bet that the ubiquity of cameras have made police less aggressive than they were 50 years ago.

Oops got a chart. It appears that the police have gotten less aggressive with blacks while not changing at all with whites. The rate is still far higher for blacks than whites. This a Harvard study so it is pretty much the gold standard. Gotta do a big LoL on this though. There is a MASSIVE bias of police against young men in general. Women and older male deaths are statistically insignificant.

 

[Darwin333]

Well since she didn't get dead I don't really see how that chart is relevant to this discussion...

 

[hasu]

Term limits aren't the be all end all. In fact, you'll end up kicking good people to the curb. The proper way to remove bad elected officials is to vote them out. Term limits are a way for some voters to force their views on the majority of voters.

In democracy no one is born to be a ruler and no one born to be ruled. But that is changing -- to certain extent even in developed democratic nations, thanks to the assigned power of bureaucracy. This can lead to wide spread nepotism, essentially building a barrier between two classes of society. .

 

[kage69]

Well we do rely on the police for public order. They are absolutely necessary. The incidents of police brutality and overstepping of their authority are nothing new. The difference is that many incidents become national news now. I would be willing to bet that the ubiquity of cameras have made police less aggressive than they were 50 years ago.

Oops got a chart. It appears that the police have gotten less aggressive with blacks while not changing at all with whites. The rate is still far higher for blacks than whites. This a Harvard study so it is pretty much the gold standard. Gotta do a big LoL on this though. There is a MASSIVE bias of police against young men in general. Women and older male deaths are statistically insignificant.

A sobering graphic, easy to spot the Civil Rights movement isn't it? Ugh.

 

[FelixDeCat]

There might be something to this.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I will say that the first time I watched that video I came unglued by that pathetic excuse for a peace officer's conduct.

 

[TeeJay1952]

This behavior is what brown people suspect, black people know and drug users acknowledge as part of the deal.

 

[Genx87]

Later in the WaPo article the body cam footage caught the two cops debating getting a warrant, but Payne said they couldn't because they lacked probable cause.

I'm confused. Why did they want the guy's blood in the first place? He wasn't the suspect, he was the victim. The suspect himself died in the crash.



That smells really weird. However, the real hammer should come down on the Lieutenant who ordered this. What could possibly have been the rationale for drawing blood so urgently on a guy who isn't even suspected of a crime?

This guy's action is mitigated somewhat by the fact that he was following orders, but I wish cops would stop and think for a second, "Wait, this will go on national television if I do this. Take a step back and a deep breath."

What is a cop obliged to do if he doesn't want to comply with an order from his superior? Not a rhetorical question. I honestly don't know.

I think they were digging for dirt. If the guy had any drugs or alcohol in his system they could smear him when it came time for a lawsuit. It is also why I think they got a warrant for Justine Ruszczyk house after killing her in an alley. Fucking disgusting behavior. This cop in Utah should be in jail.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Fucking disgusting behavior. This cop in Utah should be in jail.

Exactly and anyone else who behaves in a similar manner.

 

[Darwin333]

To add some irony to the situation, the burn victim happened to be a reserve police officer for another department. That department released a statement:

"The Rigby Police Department would like to thank the nurse involved and hospital staff for standing firm and protecting Officer Gray’s rights as a patient and victim. Protecting the rights of others is truly a heroic act."

It is very rare that you see other police publicly acknowledging that a police officer fucked up and when they do you know there is absolutely no question that they did indeed fuck up.

And the latest on the asshole officer, he is off the streets and on paid leave while they investigate. I truly hope that criminal charges are filed but I won't hold my breath on that, termination is probably the best we can hope for. Unfortunately the asshole will probably just get a job as a cop in another department especially since he gets to use the bullshit excuse of "just following orders".

 

[Darwin333]

Exactly and anyone else who behaves in a similar manner.

The difference is that we would be immediately arrested and charged, not given a paid vacation while they investigate.

 

[JSt0rm]

To add some irony to the situation, the burn victim happened to be a reserve police officer for another department. That department released a statement:

"The Rigby Police Department would like to thank the nurse involved and hospital staff for standing firm and protecting Officer Gray’s rights as a patient and victim. Protecting the rights of others is truly a heroic act."

It is very rare that you see other police publicly acknowledging that a police officer fucked up and when they do you know there is absolutely no question that they did indeed fuck up.

And the latest on the asshole officer, he is off the streets and on paid leave while they investigate. I truly hope that criminal charges are filed but I won't hold my breath on that, termination is probably the best we can hope for. Unfortunately the asshole will probably just get a job as a cop in another department especially since he gets to use the bullshit excuse of "just following orders".

fucking lol. what a shit show.