You’ll never have a registry that lists officers that are “forced” to resign as the fact that the officer resigned means it was on their own terms.
And you shouldn’t need a registry of officers fired. When a Department is in the process of hiring someone, they should be doing their due diligence in checking on the person’s history and should see if they were fired from some place and if so, should find out why the firing occurred. And if the officer failed to mention that they were fired that should be an automatic reason to eliminate the officer from being hired.
And remember that just because someone was fired from a job doesn’t mean that they are unhireable somewhere else. Imagine if everyone who was fired from a job couldn’t get a job again.
(And that stinks about your parents.)
- Merg
Honestly I want bad cops to be unhireable as cops again, as we've seen these guys cycle through departments time and time again. I get that people need to make a living. If you've failed as a cop there are still career paths open to you, but you shouldn't be in a position to have legal authority over citizens ever again.
But you can say that about any profession. Why not have a registry for doctors or lawyers or politicians?
- Merg
Great idea! There could be some kind of organization that authorizes lawyers to practice law. We could call it a "bar". If certain rules are broken, that lawyer may no longer practice law. Maybe doctors could need to be certified by a "medical board". Politicians? Maybe we could hold "elections" and we the people could decide if they should be allowed in office. I think we are getting somewhere.
And guess what? Law enforcement has the same type of thing. Each state has their own version of it and if you lose your certification, you cannot be a police officer in that state. In fact, police officers have to renew their certification every certain number of years. If they fail to qualify at the range or fail to take their continuing education classes, they can lose their certification. If they are convicted of crimes, they can also have their certification revoked.
And while I believe the board for medicine is a national organization, each state has its own bar, so just because a lawyer is removed from the bar in one state, does not mean that they cannot practice law in another state.
As for politicians, have you seen the number politicians that get elected even after being convicted of crimes?
- Merg
The quote you responded to was discussing the fact that there are loopholes that "bad" cops use to continue working as cops. While there are loopholes in the professions you mention, they are not nearly as massive and easy to use as with cops. Sometimes all a cop has to do is resign from their department and then go get another job. Does the decertification process and/or the IA investigation process continue after a resignation?
Attorney Greg Skordas, who represents Payne, said his client plans to appeal a firing he considers unfair and over the top. Skordas said Payne would still be employed if the body camera footage hadn't generated so much attention and blown the events out of proportion.
He should have to forfeit everything he has over it. The nurse should file a civil suit for tort damages both emotional and physical. Body cameras should be required by all police and if an incident occurs without them being present the police should be at fault each and every time.I hope he blows a shot load of money on fighting it and loses anyways. Fuck him
If an officer resigns, normally an IA investigation will be closed or suspended. There are, however, generally two sides to IA. One side solely looks at issues with regard to policy and procedure. If an officer resigns, there is no purpose to continue that investigation since the Department cannot mete out punishment. However, if there is a criminal investigation going on, those can continue even after a resignation.
That being said, if an officer resigns and then applies at another department, the new department should have access to the officer’s previous IA file and would see the “suspended” investigation.
- Merg
Any decent person should be appalled irrespective of their race or sex.The $10,000 question is: if this had been a black man instead of a white woman, would the cop have been fired?
The $10,000 question is: if this had been a black man instead of a white woman, would the cop have been fired?
They should be demoted to making license plates.
Had Payne just said, "I was ordered by my superior to get a blood sample. If I am stopped I was ordered to place under arrest the person stopping me." then affected the arrest while contacting his superior of the situation. Payne instead went full retard and let anger at being told "no" by the nurse cloud his judgement.
If Payne had done the arrest in a calm, collected, and neutral fashion there would be almost no blow back on him and almost none on the supervisor that ordered it. Instead his decisions have affected a far worse outcome for himself, his partner, and his supervisor. As it should based upon all their collective actions.
I understand what you're saying. It's bullshit from the top down.
ROFLMFAO!! So violating somebody's constitutionally protected rights in polite manner is the way to go..... kind of like Imma gonna rape your daughter but I will be nice about it....
I would put your quote up as one of the most boot licking servile ones I have seen in quite some time. You need to be in Russia or Iran or some other backwater that doesn't value human autonomy.
please correct me if i'm wrong, did he actually have probable cause?
if not, then lying to get your way is still an abuse of power
Sadly its an accepted practice in modern society that is reinforced through the media. Just think about all of the tv shows and movies that glamorize law enforcement's abuse of people while making it seem okay that the ends justify the means.please correct me if i'm wrong, did he actually have probable cause?
if not, then lying to get your way is still an abuse of power
its seriously a problem. i was unaware until i was older, and as a younger person bought it hook, line, and sinker. i was in my mid 20s when i really started to get a clue, and was a bumbling cop who kicked it off.Sadly its an accepted practice in modern society that is reinforced through the media. Just think about all of the tv shows and movies that glamorize law enforcement's abuse of people while making it seem okay that the ends justify the means.
Kids need all the help that they can get. I tried my best to equip my sons with enough so they could at least stand on their own in this world gone mad. The police running around with military grade equipment is just uncalled for plus it gives the knuckle draggers unprecedented capability to trodden our rights.its about parenting IMO. my parents didnt go over my rights with me. just one more thing on my list of stuff to teach the little dudes i'm trying to raise!
But you can say that about any profession. Why not have a registry for doctors or lawyers or politicians?
- Merg