1,000,000 uF Supercapacitor $1 !!

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Aztech

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Originally posted by: Jokertoker
Originally posted by: Replay
2.5V rating is too low for me.
I use 5V devices to replace memory backup batteries on circuit boards.

you can series two to get 5V.

Capacitors add in parallel.
 

Akira13

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Originally posted by: Aztech
Originally posted by: Jokertoker
Originally posted by: Replay
2.5V rating is too low for me.
I use 5V devices to replace memory backup batteries on circuit boards.

you can series two to get 5V.

Capacitors add in parallel.

I think that capacitence adds in parallel, but the voltage of equivalent capacitors in series still adds. So as long as you had two capacitors at 2.5V each, you could put them in series to get 5V, but their equivalent capacitence would become Ceq=(C1^-1 + C2^-1)^-1 or something like that.
 

nebula

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So you'd have to put two in series - in parallel with two in series. Then you'd be back up to 1 F and 5V.

That's also a trick for resistors in you need to dissipate more power than they are rated for.
 

SharkyTM

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Originally posted by: ivan2
i did got shock by the cap that's used for camera flash though, donno what the the compacity is but that little thing can deliever quite a shock.

trust me, those are the flash caps... like 300-700v, and like 200uF
 

WuttheChris

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
build your own tesla coil

Dude do you realize how unsafe that is? It's a matter of national security. Imagine if Russia gets ahold of this technology and builds it into a mobile form only to attack the US!!!! Oh wait nvm...red alert flashback.
 

SharkyTM

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yo folks... the place selling these things also sells split loom at great prices... like 19cents a foot or less. Just a heads up.
 

kumanchu

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hmmm.... 6 of these in series would make for a 15V capacitor that is 6F....... perfectly usable in a car _theoretically_

those leads look like they would melt if you ever wanted to actually discharge them in high current; especially trying to throw out as much current as you _possibly_ could. but then again its a pretty cheap project; 6 capacitors, some fat power cable, a little solder and you got a 6 farad capacitor. who knows, you might even be able to get it to work.
 

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Originally posted by: kumanchu
hmmm.... 6 of these in series would make for a 15V capacitor that is 6F....... perfectly usable in a car _theoretically_

those leads look like they would melt if you ever wanted to actually discharge them in high current; especially trying to throw out as much current as you _possibly_ could. but then again its a pretty cheap project; 6 capacitors, some fat power cable, a little solder and you got a 6 farad capacitor. who knows, you might even be able to get it to work.

not quite. 6 in series would be 15V, but 1/6th of 1F or 166,667uF.
 

kumanchu

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so then use 60 of them

10 of them in parrallel.

circuits classes were a couple years ago and changed major because of them ;p my bad
 

blahblah99

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Lets see how I can use this for car audio....

If I put ten of these in series to get above the 14V (25V actually, but 11V extra for safety margin), I'd have .1 F @ 25V.

Parallel ten of those and I'll get 1F @ 25V!!!!


YES! I think i'll go buy 100 of those now.
 

SharkyTM

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Originally posted by: blahblah99
Lets see how I can use this for car audio....

If I put ten of these in series to get above the 14V (25V actually, but 11V extra for safety margin), I'd have .1 F @ 25V.

Parallel ten of those and I'll get 1F @ 25V!!!!


YES! I think i'll go buy 100 of those now.

no... if you use 10, in series, you'll have 1F @25V
 

Akira13

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Originally posted by: LaLaLand
Hey can one of you geeks tell the rest of us what the heck these are for?

A capacitor is like a battery, but instead of using chemical energy, capacitors use charge stored on parallel plates (basic capacitors, anyway). You can use them when you want to provide massive amounts of current over a short time (like in camera flash bulbs). Traditional chemical batteries can't provide that kind of current, but capacitors can. I think that covers it...
 

LaLaLand

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Originally posted by: Akira13
Originally posted by: LaLaLand
Hey can one of you geeks tell the rest of us what the heck these are for?

A capacitor is like a battery, but instead of using chemical energy, capacitors use charge stored on parallel plates (basic capacitors, anyway). You can use them when you want to provide massive amounts of current over a short time (like in camera flash bulbs). Traditional chemical batteries can't provide that kind of current, but capacitors can. I think that covers it...

Thanks, now can another one of you geeks tell me what the heck he just said?



LOL just playin I hadn't a clue.
 

chuckyH

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what does this mean?
All your base are not belong to me anymore. Please go back to your base. Your base is suck anyway.

yes im not with it let me in on the joke thanks
 

SoulAssassin

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Originally posted by: chuckyH
what does this mean?
All your base are not belong to me anymore. Please go back to your base. Your base is suck anyway.

yes im not with it let me in on the joke thanks

You don't want to know. Just let it go...it's not worth your time. Trust me, it's one of those jokes that are better off just fading into obscurity.
 

Silex

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Originally posted by: Akira13
Originally posted by: LaLaLand
Hey can one of you geeks tell the rest of us what the heck these are for?

A capacitor is like a battery, but instead of using chemical energy, capacitors use charge stored on parallel plates (basic capacitors, anyway). You can use them when you want to provide massive amounts of current over a short time (like in camera flash bulbs). Traditional chemical batteries can't provide that kind of current, but capacitors can. I think that covers it...
Perfect explanation! But to clear things up a tad bit more. Think of a normal AA battery. You put it in...say, a remote control. Through a series of chemical reations, charge moves between the + and - terminal. Now this is fine and dandy in a remote, because the power isn't that great each time you push a button and thus this leads to the point that batteries are made for one thing in mind, to provide power over a long period of time. Of course the opposite of long period is short period and this is where the capacitor comes in. Like LaLa said, there are 2 tiny plates of equal surface area inside that tiny cylinder. What stems off are the + and - leads (even though some are non-polarized which is just a fancy term meaning that it doesn't matter which way it's placed, it will charge up either way).

Current is just the location of a point of charge of a period of time (dq/dt) so as current passes through the + lead of the capacitor, the plate attached to that lead inside charges up and there is a variance in net charge between the plates. As time progresses, the current builds up on that one plate (I can't stress this enough that the charge doesn't "trickle" or whatever you want to call it) to the max voltage that the capacitor is rated for (in this case 2.5V), then the charge has nowhere else to go on the plate except to jump to the other plate. And you can imagine that this would create quite a lightshow if we could see what was going on inside! Now all this charge quickly discharges the plates and brings them back to neutrality and all th current is sent off through the - lead back on its merry way through the rest of the circuit where the process gets repeated until the circuit is shut off or you run out of power.

If anybody has any other questions regarding electrical components, ask away, I'm studying digital circuitry so I can assist with K-Maps, MUX's, Inverters, Gates, Adders, and the like. Have fun ! Just please don't ask me about Flip-Flops! *shutter*

LOL! And to think I just bought a 1 Farad stiffening capacitor for my car audio system! Damn who needs what you got one this tiny ! You can chain like 500 of those suckers together in a shoebox! (Al kidding aside), it won't matter much since once those 16V-24V of the car battery reaches those caps, needles you say, "sparks wil be 'a-flyin"!

 

TecJunkie

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I have decided that every time i feel like i am getting smart i will come here and check out one of these types of deals, where i dont know what i am looking at or what its for and read stuff from tons of people that do! its humbling
 

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Originally posted by: TecJunkie
I have decided that every time i feel like i am getting smart i will come here and check out one of these types of deals, where i dont know what i am looking at or what its for and read stuff from tons of people that do! its humbling

heh, and this isn't the highly technical forum!
 

James789

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Originally posted by: yellowfiero
Originally posted by: kumanchu
hmmm.... 6 of these in series would make for a 15V capacitor that is 6F....... perfectly usable in a car _theoretically_

those leads look like they would melt if you ever wanted to actually discharge them in high current; especially trying to throw out as much current as you _possibly_ could. but then again its a pretty cheap project; 6 capacitors, some fat power cable, a little solder and you got a 6 farad capacitor. who knows, you might even be able to get it to work.

not quite. 6 in series would be 15V, but 1/6th of 1F or 166,667uF.


The problem you'll run into with placing then in series is that one of the capacitors will tend to try and drop all the voltage across it and you'll destroy the caps anyways. What you can do would be to place the series of caps in parallel with an equal number of resistors setup to equally divide the voltage at 2.5 (max) each. I can't really draw it here, but picture a ladder with the rungs being the nodes that tie the caps and resistors together and the parallel sections being the caps on one side and the resistors on the other. The problem is that you need to make the current running through the resitors about 10 times greater than the leakage current the capacitors will draw.
(Don't take this as set in stone fact, that's just something I learned from a senior engineer here, haven't actually tried it in application yet)
And don't blame me if you try it and vaporize a few resistors or your fingers.
 

SoundBoy

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Umm, won't they discharge and charge slower, thus rendering them less than useful? At least if you want them to provide instantaneous current for audio peaks.




>>>The problem you'll run into with placing then in series is that one of the capacitors will tend to try and drop all the voltage across it and you'll destroy the caps anyways. What you can do would be to place the series of caps in parallel with an equal number of resistors setup to equally divide the voltage at 2.5 (max) each. I can't really draw it here, but picture a ladder with the rungs being the nodes that tie the caps and resistors together and the parallel sections being the caps on one side and the resistors on the other. The problem is that you need to make the current running through the resitors about 10 times greater than the leakage current the capacitors will draw.
(Don't take this as set in stone fact, that's just something I learned from a senior engineer here, haven't actually tried it in application yet)
 
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