1.6a and P4S533 in!

[Rusman]

Hey all! I got my parts a while ago, but I've been busy getting it working/reinstalling/transferring data over and just general life stuff.
It runs great and I'll be doing some overclocking and benching after this weekend.

I do have one question right now: The CPU temp seems to be staying at 40*, even when I'm running the Prime95 torture test! The case temp has increased one degree and the voltages and HSF fan speed fluctuate so I know that AsusProbe is working for those. Is this a problem, or only proof that I need to overclock it?

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Asus Probe doesn't report below 40c but if you get higher than that it works fine.

 

[SupermanCK]

UPDATE BIOS AND PROBE...the German Asus FTP site has 2.16.09

 

[CrawlingEye]

Both, all 1.6a's and P4S533's need to be OC'd.

All though, update your Asus Probe.
I was worried about losing the Q-fan thingy with that version of Asus Probe, but since I just got my Tornado, my cpu temps are never above ambient, so...

The funny thing is, I've actually been a few c below ambient, lately. :Q

 

[paralazarguer]

This is correct. I have the same motherboard and processor. The version of Asus probe that comes on the CD doesn't work with this motherboard. Impressive, no? It won't report the temp right. The first thing that you need to do is update the bios to 1007 here. Unfortunately, ASUS's ftp server is down 23 hours of the day. Then get ASUS probe V2.16.07. It works fine. Go here to see it.
www.hwsource.com/temp.jpg
you can't click on the link. You'll have to paste it into your address bar. Let me know how it goes.

 

[XDataChildX]

Originally posted by: CrawlingEye
Both, all 1.6a's and P4S533's need to be OC'd.

All though, update your Asus Probe.
I was worried about losing the Q-fan thingy with that version of Asus Probe, but since I just got my Tornado, my cpu temps are never above ambient, so...

The funny thing is, I've actually been a few c below ambient, lately. :Q

It is not possible to be below ambient. Obviously, one of your probes isnt reporting the correct temperature.

 

[paralazarguer]

That's right. Your processor is not running below ambient. CrawlingEye, it's good that you've updated ASUS probe but you should do a BIOS update too.

 

[CrawlingEye]

Originally posted by: 7757524
That's right. Your processor is not running below ambient. CrawlingEye, it's good that you've updated ASUS probe but you should do a BIOS update too.

I did, and actually it's scientifically possible, as well.
With a fan pushing rather than sucking it makes it so the ambient temps are decided in part by the cpu heat, therefore the cpu temps if being a very high rpm fan will push the heat away faster than the ambient case temps are affected.

Bios update = every time www.asus.com puts out an update for my mobo.

 

[SupermanCK]

crawlingeye I bet you your temp are reversed...you gotta delete last two line in Asusprobe folder of asus.ini.......if you want to verify if you have the right temp...go into your bios and check it.....

 

[CrawlingEye]

Originally posted by: SupermanCK
crawlingeye I bet you your temp are reversed...you gotta delete last two line in Asusprobe folder of asus.ini.......if you want to verify if you have the right temp...go into your bios and check it.....

My temps aren't reversed, it was the other way around (higher cpu temp than ambient) before.

I've checked in bios ample times, if you want, I'll take a pic of my bios screen for you?

 

[paralazarguer]

Crawling eye, ambient temp is room temp not case temp. It is NOT possible to have your CPU running cooler than your case or ambient temp. Once again, you are using the term ambient wrong. Copy and paste this URL into your address bar man.
www.hwsource.com/temp.jpg
The air that is blowing across your CPU to cool it is the case temp. This case air is absorbing the heat frin the CPU and can't make the processor cooler than the surrounding air. It's impossible. The only time I've been able to do that is to have a duct blowing outside air onto the CPU. I'm afraid that something is misreporting. Your case temp is not higher than you CPU temp. Not possible.

 

[CrawlingEye]

Originally posted by: 7757524
Crawling eye, ambient temp is room temp not case temp. It is possible to have your CPU running cooler than your case but not ambient temp. Once again, you are using the temp ambient wrong. Your cpu is running cooler than your case temp not ambient temp. That also means that your case is running too hot. You most likely have a hot spot or a "swirl." Clean up your cables and make sure you have good air flow. Copy and paste this URL into your address bar man.
www.hwsource.com/temp.jpg

There's case ambients and room ambients. It's common sense to assume case temps when talking about computer cooling.

Main Entry: 1am·bi·ent
Pronunciation: 'am-bE-&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin ambient-, ambiens, present participle of ambire to go around, from ambi- + ire to go -- more at ISSUE
Date: 1596
: existing or present on all sides : ENCOMPASSING


Perhaps that'll help you out.
Cable cleaning has proven not to affect air-flow, same as fan filters.
However, I'm getting round cables soon just because the clutter is annoying from the regulard ATA and FDD cables.

My case ambients are relatively high, although not too high. I've seen much higher.

 

[paralazarguer]

Okay, if you have a big flat IDE cable right in front of your fan it will most certainly restrict airflow. Common sense guy. Listen, something's wrong. YOUR PROCESSOR IS NOT RUNNING COOLER THAN YOUR CASE! IT'S NOT POSSBILE BECAUSE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF YOUR HEATSINK IS DETERMINED BY THE SURROUNDING AIR!!!!!! IF THE AIR IS HOT, IT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ABSORB AS MUCH HEAT! IF THE CASE TEMP IS HOTTER THAN THE CPU, IT WILL ABSORB NOTHING AND THE CPU WILL HEAT UP TO ABOVE CASE TEMP UNTIL CASE AIR CAN START TO ABSORB HEAT AGAIN. "Hope that helps you out" guy. I think you should re-read my last post.

 

[WangButter]

Originally posted by: 7757524
Listen, something's wrong. YOUR PROCESSOR IS NOT RUNNING COOLER THAN YOUR CASE! IT'S NOT POSSBILE BECAUSE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF YOUR HEATSINK IS DETERMINED BY THE SURROUNDING AIR!!!!!

Maybe he has an airduct or side fan bringing air from the outside directly to the CPU. I have seen cases where the CPU temp was lower than the mobo temp. Of course, these guys were idiots who didn't have any fans blowing air out of the case, but had like a couple of huge fans stuck in the side panel blowing air on the HSF.

 

[WangButter]

BTW, I've heard that the P4S333 mobo does have problems with switching cpu and mobo temps around. You should probably try downloading the latest BIOS and the newest version of PC Probe

 

[paralazarguer]

Yes, I already mentioned air ducts blowing outside air onto the CPU and someone already mentioned updates and inverted temps...repeatedly.

 

[CrawlingEye]

Originally posted by: WangButter
BTW, I've heard that the P4S333 mobo does have problems with switching cpu and mobo temps around. You should probably try downloading the latest BIOS and the newest version of PC Probe

Running the 1006C bios (latest) along with Asus Probe v2.16.08 (latest).
My bios temps also match my Probe temps, I've checked ample times.

 

[CrawlingEye]

Originally posted by: 7757524
Okay, if you have a big flat IDE cable right in front of your fan it will most certainly restrict airflow. Common sense guy. Listen, something's wrong. YOUR PROCESSOR IS NOT RUNNING COOLER THAN YOUR CASE! IT'S NOT POSSBILE BECAUSE THE EFFECTIVENESS OF YOUR HEATSINK IS DETERMINED BY THE SURROUNDING AIR!!!!!! IF THE AIR IS HOT, IT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ABSORB AS MUCH HEAT! IF THE CASE TEMP IS HOTTER THAN THE CPU, IT WILL ABSORB NOTHING AND THE CPU WILL HEAT UP TO ABOVE CASE TEMP UNTIL CASE AIR CAN START TO ABSORB HEAT AGAIN. "Hope that helps you out" guy. I think you should re-read my last post.

Uh, show pics and screenies of your temps and I'll believe you.
This has been dismissed many MANY times as being a myth.

Not in the sense of having cables directly blocking fans, but in the sense of round cables vs standard and many other senses.
The difference in air flow is minimal, and it's not a loss, just redirection. That's basic physics.

 

[paralazarguer]

for pictures of my temps go to www.hwsource.com/temp.jpg. I have the "ide" cable for my audigy platinum folded right under neath the intake fan. If I put it up in front of the intake fan so as to completely block it the temp will rise by 1 degree because the air is just being backwashed into the fan.

 

[paralazarguer]

BTW you say that the 1006 is the most up to date BIOS. Please clarify. You said in the subject of this thread that you have a P4S533 where the latest BIOS is 1007. I don't know about the P4S333 which it says you have in your specs. Which is it?

 

[paralazarguer]

Regardless of what your bios is telling you, it is not possible to have your CPU running at a lower temperature than your case without blowing cool air direclty onto the CPU from outside using a duct as illustrated above. Something is not reporting correctly. You may want to consider a BETA bios. I know that there is one available for the P4S533 and I'm not sure about the P4S333. I'm still unclear as to which one you have.

 

[Rusman]

Uhmm....anyway....

I've downloaded both the latest BIOS and Asus Probe and am about to install.
Thanks for the pointers .

 

[paralazarguer]

Let me know how it goes. Disregard previous post. Two different people...I get it.

 

[Rusman]

7757524: I installed the newer Asus probe and things are much better. IIRC, it was around 34c idle, 44c load. I'm now running at 2.2GHz and the temps are 37c idle, 50c load (prime95). My case temp seems to be hanging around 27-28c no matter what, so I guess that's good.

My BIOS actually already was at 1007 revision from Asus .

Thanks!