1 SATA WD Raptor 10krpm faster than 2 IDE HD PCI/RAID 0?

[kennl66]

I have 2 IBM 75gxp 34gb HD on PCI RAID 0. I just want to know if a single SATA WD Raptor 10,000rpm drive is faster than the RAIDed IDE? If it's just as fast, i might as well get rid of the 2 ibms on PCI RAID that's taking too much space in my case.


specs:
AMD Barton 2500XP
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe
ATI AIW Radeon 9800PRO
2 IBM 75gxp on PCI RAID 0
LIAN LI P65 Case
Windows XP

 

[Overkast]

Yes, I believe the Raptor is faster. Especially the 72GB Raptors.

I don't understand your logic though in replacing a RAID 0 configuration with 1 single HD.

???

 

[Megatomic]

Space Savings
1 drive vs 2 drives
no RAID card vs 1 RAID card
1 SATA cable vs 2 IDE cables

Power Savings
1 drive vs 2 drives
no RAID card vs 1 RAID card

Improved Air Flow
1 SATA cable vs 2 IDE cables

Reduced Heat Load
1 drive vs 2 drives
no RAID card vs 1 RAID card

Reduced Noise Level
1 drive vs 2 drives

Then there is the speed increase...

I see plenty of logic in making this transition.

 

[Overkast]

Originally posted by: Megatomic
Space Savings
1 drive vs 2 drives
no RAID card vs 1 RAID card
1 SATA cable vs 2 IDE cables

Power Savings
1 drive vs 2 drives
no RAID card vs 1 RAID card

Improved Air Flow
1 SATA cable vs 2 IDE cables

Reduced Heat Load
1 drive vs 2 drives
no RAID card vs 1 RAID card

Reduced Noise Level
1 drive vs 2 drives

Then there is the speed increase...

I see plenty of logic in making this transition.

Err.... I just was just referring to file security vs. no file security.

But nice elaboration!!!

 

[CrystalBay]

The New raptors are faster than 15k3 Cheetahs...

 

[MemberSince97]

Originally posted by: CrystalBay
The New raptors are faster than 15k3 Cheetahs...

This is true...

 

[kennl66]

Thanks for the reply.

Megatomic, those were the reasons I want to get rid of the old RAIDed IBMs.

About file security, the RAID 0 setup is not safer than a single drive. If one drive fails in RAID 0, you still lose all data.(unless it's a RAID 0+1) I have another HD for backup and some on DVD-RWs.

 

[Monoman]

Originally posted by: MemberSince97

Originally posted by: CrystalBay The New raptors are faster than 15k3 Cheetahs...

This is true...

in what respect? I doubt thay can touch the access times OR the (REAL WORLD) sustained xfer rate. I mean, common. I may have received a higher number in a benchmark somehwere, but used in a sql database streaming over 50Mb/s, do you really think the Raptor will be of any competition? No. It's industrial strength VS Consumer line. It's a great drive, don't get me wrong, but it's not faster.

 

[beatle]

Originally posted by: Monoman

Originally posted by: MemberSince97

Originally posted by: CrystalBay The New raptors are faster than 15k3 Cheetahs...

This is true...

in what respect? I doubt thay can touch the access times OR the (REAL WORLD) sustained xfer rate. I mean, common. I may have received a higher number in a benchmark somehwere, but used in a sql database streaming over 50Mb/s, do you really think the Raptor will be of any competition? No. It's industrial strength VS Consumer line. It's a great drive, don't get me wrong, but it's not faster.

Comparing single user scenarios (that's most of us) you don't need scsi. Like you said, SCSI is industrial, so it's suited for those tasks. I don't care how fast it is in SQL, I just want to know how fast my apps will load.

Re: the OP, Raptor all the way.

 

[Dug]

Originally posted by: Monoman

Originally posted by: MemberSince97

Originally posted by: CrystalBay The New raptors are faster than 15k3 Cheetahs...

This is true...

in what respect? I doubt thay can touch the access times OR the (REAL WORLD) sustained xfer rate. I mean, common. I may have received a higher number in a benchmark somehwere, but used in a sql database streaming over 50Mb/s, do you really think the Raptor will be of any competition? No. It's industrial strength VS Consumer line. It's a great drive, don't get me wrong, but it's not faster.

In what respect? The raptor is faster in everything but very specific server environments. I doubt that kennl66 is running a server judging by his system, or has more than himself accessing it.

 

[Monoman]

Originally posted by: beatle
I just want to know how fast my apps will load. Re: the OP, Raptor all the way.

well, according to www.storagereview.com, the raptor is faster(albit just a litle everywhere except for servers) you are comapiring SATA to SCSI and IMHO, even benchmarks to speak for hands on. I, personally, will stick with my 15k.3's for my desktop HDD's. and, you can pick up a 36gig 15k.3 and LSI HBA for raight around $210 which is what I think the 74g raptor is going for... D)

 

[JBT]

I just picked up a 74GB Raptor and so far I am loving it...

Oh an monoman u did just notice you said u can get a SCSI card and a 36GB SCSI drive for the same price as something with double the storage capacity? hmm pretty simple which is better in this case.

 

[Monoman]

Originally posted by: JBT
I just picked up a 74GB Raptor and so far I am loving it... Oh an monoman u did just notice you said u can get a SCSI card and a 36GB SCSI drive for the same price as something with double the storage capacity? hmm pretty simple which is better in this case.

depends on your needs....

 

[sharkeeper]

People that believe a Raptor can beat 15K SCSI have never used 15K SCSI...

It's pretty funny because I've used every possible storage scenario out there. Guess what? You can pry my SCSI storage system from my cold dead fingers before you tell me I have to replace it with IDE. This includes Raptor.

It's like the kid that drives a 12 second mustang to school. He thinks his car is superior to a 993 911 because his quarter mile time is the same or slightly better! HAH!

Cheers!

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: Overkast

Originally posted by: Megatomic
Space Savings
1 drive vs 2 drives
no RAID card vs 1 RAID card
1 SATA cable vs 2 IDE cables

Power Savings
1 drive vs 2 drives
no RAID card vs 1 RAID card

Improved Air Flow
1 SATA cable vs 2 IDE cables

Reduced Heat Load
1 drive vs 2 drives
no RAID card vs 1 RAID card

Reduced Noise Level
1 drive vs 2 drives

Then there is the speed increase...

I see plenty of logic in making this transition.

Err.... I just was just referring to file security vs. no file security.

But nice elaboration!!!

RAID 0 offers no file security.

 

[Dug]

People that believe a Raptor can beat 15K SCSI have never used 15K SCSI...

Actually I have and still believe the raptor to be a faster drive for desktop usage. (Compared to a Seagate anyway)
The bootup time, gaming, image editing all seem faster. This is single drive environment.
Not to mention the noise is a lot less.

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor


RAID 0 offers no file security.

Neither does a single hard drive. It is all relative.

 

[biostud]

Now we're on the question.

I wondering if I should invest in either:
1 SATA controller + 1 37GB raptor ~200$
1 SATA controller + 2 x 80GB HDD ~250$ running RAID 0

I don't really need space since I've got a 250Gb External HDD so it would just be for OS and programs

Currently I have an old Quantum Fireball 40Gb which seems slow and noisy.

 

[FishTankX]

no RAID controller, 1 72GB Raptor. That's optimal for system performance.

 

[EarthwormJim]

Raid 0 really will only offer faster performance if your transfering huge files, like video editing or something. In everyday use, it's a little faster than a non-Raid'ed system, but not alot. High sustained transfer rates don't mean a whole lot for destop use (including gaming like loading maps), since most of the time spent accessing data, is spent on your hard drive simply looking for and getting to the data itself. So a higher spindle speed will definetly help out more there.

And to the people saying a raptor is faster than a 15000rpm drive, why don't you go buy both and see. I just got a Seagate x15-36lp and it's quite a bit faster than my raid'ed raptors. Apps load faster, game maps load faster and my system feels a bit more responsive (though not as big of a jump as when I went from 7200rpm drives to 10000rpm drives).

 

[Monoman]

Originally posted by: EarthwormJim
Raid 0 really will only offer faster performance if your transfering huge files, like video editing or something. In everyday use, it's a little faster than a non-Raid'ed system, but not alot. High sustained transfer rates don't mean a whole lot for destop use (including gaming like loading maps), since most of the time spent accessing data, is spent on your hard drive simply looking for and getting to the data itself. So a higher spindle speed will definetly help out more there. And to the people saying a raptor is faster than a 15000rpm drive, why don't you go buy both and see. I just got a Seagate x15-36lp and it's quite a bit faster than my raid'ed raptors. Apps load faster, game maps load faster and my system feels a bit more responsive (though not as big of a jump as when I went from 7200rpm drives to 10000rpm drives).

thank you