(1+x)^n = x^n

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Fritzo

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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
It's true that you never use this crap when you get out of school.

I'm out of school, and apparently I'm right now using it in an internet forum.
 

chuckywang

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Originally posted by: Random Variable
(1+x)^n = x^n
((1+x)^n)^(1/n) = (x^n)^(1/n)
1^(1/n)*(1+x) = 1^(1/n)*x

You get a contradictory statement if you let the nth root of 1 be the same number on both sides of the equation. If you let them be different numbers, then you get all the solutions. Why is that?

How did you get from the second to third line?
 

chuckywang

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Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Random Variable
(1+x)^n = x^n
((1+x)^n)^(1/n) = (x^n)^(1/n)
1^(1/n)*(1+x) = 1^(1/n)*x

You get a contradictory statement if you let the nth root of 1 be the same number on both sides of the equation. If you let them be different numbers, then you get all the solutions. Why is that?

? I can't think of any way (1+x)^n=x^n


Other than n=0 I mean

Well, as long as we're setting values, x=-1/2 and n is even.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: sdifox
Originally posted by: Random Variable
(1+x)^n = x^n
((1+x)^n)^(1/n) = (x^n)^(1/n)
1^(1/n)*(1+x) = 1^(1/n)*x

You get a contradictory statement if you let the nth root of 1 be the same number on both sides of the equation. If you let them be different numbers, then you get all the solutions. Why is that?

? I can't think of any way (1+x)^n=x^n


Other than n=0 I mean

Well, as long as we're setting values, x=-1/2 and n is even.

and that is why I am not a math major man talk about being rusty.
 
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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: Random Variable
(1+x)^n = x^n
((1+x)^n)^(1/n) = (x^n)^(1/n)
1^(1/n)*(1+x) = 1^(1/n)*x

You get a contradictory statement if you let the nth root of 1 be the same number on both sides of the equation. If you let them be different numbers, then you get all the solutions. Why is that?

How did you get from the second to third line?

(z^n)^(1/n) = (1*z^n)^(1/n) = 1^(1/n)*z
 

Engineer

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Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
It's true that you never use this crap when you get out of school.

That's not true. You've got to help your kids with it when they are doing their homework!
 

chuckywang

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Originally posted by: Random Variable
Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: Random Variable
(1+x)^n = x^n
((1+x)^n)^(1/n) = (x^n)^(1/n)
1^(1/n)*(1+x) = 1^(1/n)*x

You get a contradictory statement if you let the nth root of 1 be the same number on both sides of the equation. If you let them be different numbers, then you get all the solutions. Why is that?

How did you get from the second to third line?

(z^n)^(1/n) = (1*z^n)^(1/n) = 1^(1/n)*z

Your answer lies in the fact that 1+x can never equal to x.
 

cirthix

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x=-.5 for all even n, while all values of x are true for n=0. This statement is not true for any values of odd n.
 
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Originally posted by: cirthix
x=-.5 for all even n, while all values of x are true for n=0. This statement is not true for any values of odd n.
that's true if you restrict yourself to the reals

 

DrPizza

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Egads. Had to come back to this thread when I realized I made a stupid, careless mistake. When I was thinking about the nth root, I didn't stop to think that there were n nth roots. Ooops! There are other solutions other than n=0.
 

silverpig

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We use it in physics for some semi-classical approximations in statistical physics. Of course the times we use it are when n = 10^26 or larger (maybe even 10^(10^26), so it's valid there.
 
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