I'll take you up on only one point and we'll just agree to disagree.I took the tone I did because you peddled multiple claims that were objectively false, unsubstantiated, and/or poorly expressed. You don't have to agree with me to get a respectful response; you do have to make statements that I can't disprove based on widespread technical knowledge or a 10-second web search.
Did you actually read what I wrote? I said it sucks having to pay to get fast charging that you get in the box with other phones. My beef was that you pulled the $150 figure out of thin air.
Also, please don't try to dismiss common, frequently valuable phone features just because you don't use them or you don't how like your particular phone implements them. And the point about documents was not that this was somehow a unique platform feature, but that there's a lot of parity in the things you can actually do with different platforms.
Apple is stingy with cloud data; I know that. But it's not like I don't get Google Drive (or Dropbox, or OneDrive, or...) if I want it. You'd have a better argument if there was some extra-deep And I know expandable storage is nice, even if it doesn't matter as much as it used to.
As for dual-SIM phones, it's simple: Apple's a mostly high-end phone manufacturer, and dual-SIM phones are most popular at the lower end (there are exceptions, of course). It's a market the company just doesn't want to play in.
A 19$ dollar 12W iPad charger from Apple gives pretty good fast charging (and you can use provided cable )
https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/02/whats-the-best-fast-charger-for-iphone-8-and-iphone-x/
(the included charger is only 5W)
To me it's crazy that you have to buy a separate charger for fast charging a very expensive phone.
They come with a Qualcomm 2.0 compatible charger 5V/2A, 9V/1.67A.Honest question, because I can't nail down a solid answer after going to Verizon, Samsung, and Amazon... what's the output wattage of the bundled charger with an S8/+? I agree, it's super stingy that Apple keeps bundling the 5W charger and not at least re-designing it to do something like 7W (or better) output but at the same size. Because the (only) nice thing about the Apple charger is that it is basically as small as you can make it, so it'll fit in almost any outlet, regardless of what else is plugged in, AND the cable comes out perpendicular from the wall/outlet, so it's less likely to interfere (as in physically, not electrically) with other cables.
Honestly, the number of those little 5W cubes I have sitting in my apt...
Honest question, because I can't nail down a solid answer after going to Verizon, Samsung, and Amazon... what's the output wattage of the bundled charger with an S8/+? I agree, it's super stingy that Apple keeps bundling the 5W charger and not at least re-designing it to do something like 7W (or better) output but at the same size. Because the (only) nice thing about the Apple charger is that it is basically as small as you can make it, so it'll fit in almost any outlet, regardless of what else is plugged in, AND the cable comes out perpendicular from the wall/outlet, so it's less likely to interfere (as in physically, not electrically) with other cables.
Honestly, the number of those little 5W cubes I have sitting in my apt...
10 watts. 5V at 2 Amps.
Its honestly sad that apple does not include a fast charger with a phone costing that much.
Does the iPhone X come with headphones? Genuine question. Regardless, the thread is about Samsung and not Google. But I've got to say that Google has derailed with their pricing given the original value concept behind the first series of Nexus phones.It's honestly sad that Google does not include a pair of USB-C headphones for a phone costing that much.
They do, not that they are any better than the crappy ones shipped since the 5. But at least they include them.Does the iPhone X come with headphones? Genuine question. Regardless, the thread is about Samsung and not Google. But I've got to say that Google has derailed with their pricing given the original value concept behind the first series of Nexus phones.
It's honestly sad that Google does not include a pair of USB-C headphones for a phone costing that much.
I think their point was that Samsung gives you a fast charger and cheap earbuds. Apple gives you a slow charger, a cheap adapter, and cheap earbuds. Google gives you a fast (18w!) charger, a (now) cheap adapter, but no cheap earbuds. Google is charging flagship prices, but not bringing the table stakes of cheap earbuds.Ive listened to the iphone headphones, they do not sound any better than the ones that came with my note 5, or S7 edge. Both of which did also come with a fast charger, so i fail to see your point.
I've never had a problem with an Android product, but I never owned a Galaxy Note 7. So many people I've known have had problems with their Apple products (including forced updates that make their older hardware seem slower - a marketing ploy). I know Apple products are expensive with all the prestige that "affords." Frugality and logic seem to have little meaning anymore in a purely (mostly) desire and ego driven consumer market.
You're not forced to update,
Apple is not purposefully making phones slower
Good point, but I didn't refer to "everyone who has ever had a phone," just the people I know. My Facebook feed today is littered with posts about the I/A problem.and many Android phones have had problems; don't conflate anecdotal experience with everyone who has ever had a phone.
I wasn't aware of that. I've never known anyone who didn't, although I'm sure they're out there.
I was basing that on the complaints I heard - she got a new phone, but I'm sure now that that was due to this:
"While benchmarks show that processor and graphics performance are not intentionally hindered with successive iOS updates, it is entirely possible that people feel that their smartphones are slowing down over time.
That’s because as smartphones get more powerful and more capable with each new release, apps and services are also updated. In doing so they often get more complex as new features and technologies are added, which can lead to the app performing worse over time as the smartphone has to do more when the app launches and during its general operation." [edit: although she said the OS menus were slower]
https://www.theguardian.com/technol...one-5s-iphone-6-iphone-6-iphone-7-ios-updates
Good point, but I didn't refer to "everyone who has ever had a phone," just the people I know. My Facebook feed today is littered with posts about the I/A problem.