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trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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So we've come to the point where every man, woman and child that's been gunned down in a mass shooting is just another statistic to ignore.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
Mar 9, 2005
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For conservatives gun ownership rights trump all else so no other considerations will be heard. Move along now, these are not the gun rights you are looking for. My parents spew the conservative garbage like Jesus himself delivered it, nevermind that the word says thou shalt not kill! Republican states are always looking to kill people but a woman cannot exercise governance over her own body....the hypocrite train rolls on.
 
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Pipeline 1010

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Dec 2, 2005
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The top five states with the most gun violence per capita are all red states. In the top 10 it's still a red state majority.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nce-see-where-your-state-stacks-up/359395002/
Illinois ranks #36 out of 50.

This is very interesting data and it goes against what I would expect. I wonder what happens when you break it out to gun violence per capita on a county level. In states like Illinois, I don't have the impression that the gun violence is centered in rural red farming counties, but I don't have data to back that up. Perhaps given the data I would be surprised again.
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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I think the cause is really easy to discern, dumbshit: there was a fucking GUN AT THE SCHOOL.

That is the cause. Done. No more guns at schools. Problem solved.

fucking quislings. Hey, by the way--you still donating your paycheck to the NRA so Wayne the Tramp can keep buying all those fur coats with you money?

lol, you're such a pathetic, gullible twat.

Isnt it already illegal to carry a gun on school grounds? How would you enforce this?
 

tiggers

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https://www.cnn.com/interactive/2019/07/us/ten-years-of-school-shootings-trnd/


Wonder why there is a lack of federal data? Actually...scratch that.
Thanks NRA

Actually, blame the CDC. They could do research right now, if they wanted to. The Justice Department routinely produces reports about the use of firearms and crime. They just released a large one a few months ago that actually asked criminals (*gasp*) where they actually got their guns. But for some reason it didn't get news coverage, like other research papers do (probably because it dons't support a lot of gun-control talking points).


The Dicky Amednment restricting the CDC to peforming scientific research, and not gun-control 'research', was put in place after the CDC was found to be playing political science, and not actual science, with funds. Going so far as to give a gun control group in the San Francisco bay area a grant to "study violence", but the group ended up using the money to organize protests and produce news letters on gun control. Much of the hearings on the CDC, leading up to the Dicky Amendment, can still be researched if people wanted to find out for themselves exactly why they lost funding.
 

tiggers

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The top five states with the most gun violence per capita are all red states. In the top 10 it's still a red state majority.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...nce-see-where-your-state-stacks-up/359395002/
Illinois ranks #36 out of 50.
I dislike lists like this as it combines both suicides and homicides. Which are two separate issues with difference areas of focus/solutions/laws.

If you were to list the states by homicide rates, there is no rhyme or reason to how the states are ranked. The states with strict laws are mixed in fairly evenly with states with fewer laws.

Suicide does seem to show a pattern that happen to favor states with more strict laws. Which is probably why the two categories are mixed together: scare the people with stories of crimes where guns are used. Then give them statistics like "gun violence" that skews the results towards states with stricter laws as a 'solution'. For example: in my state of Oregon, suicides make up 85% of "gun deaths", giving it a high score. Yet, it's homicide rate is HALF that of strict gun control state of California. But under the 'gun deaths' ranking system, in articles that focus on crime, the insinuation is that one is more likely to be a victim of a gun related crime in Oregon.

(note: states with lower suicide rates also tend to have better quality mental health services. But that seems to be ignored as an influencing factor).
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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So we've come to the point where every man, woman and child that's been gunned down in a mass shooting is just another statistic to ignore.


So we've come to a point where every man, woman, and child that's been killed by tobacco is just another statistic to ignore, even though it kills somewhere around 5x as many innocent victims as firearms homicides... but, the puppet masters haven't told you to care about that, like they've instructed you to "care" about firearms victims. It is totally because you care, not an agenda, totally.
 
Nov 25, 2013
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So we've come to a point where every man, woman, and child that's been killed by tobacco is just another statistic to ignore, even though it kills somewhere around 5x as many innocent victims as firearms homicides... but, the puppet masters haven't told you to care about that, like they've instructed you to "care" about firearms victims. It is totally because you care, not an agenda, totally.

#fuckoffStPetersburgSlowtroll
 
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umbrella39

Lifer
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Yes, cuz gun free zones work flawlessly.

Still doesn't come close to a year in Chicago, let alone the cumulative shooting/death total for US cities.

Oh, right. Not allowed to mention that.

As a firm 2A supporter I really hate when "What... who me types" like you, pull out this old tired canard as it makes all 2A supporters look stupid... You do NOT advance any cause with this bullshit.

Hire a new writer...

It's like saying "Still doesn't come close to a year" of gun deaths in homes, you know, those places where it is okay for EVERYONE to carry. Nope, never happens there...

Then later a nice straw man you built regarding the libs and the Constitution gonna get trampled horseshit. How many libs do you think carry... None? Maybe 3... 4... tops? Yes, there are some that want to take away all our guns, it's not going to happen. But there is a LOT of wiggle room between the horseshit displayed by both extremes on this matter.

GYHOOYA
 
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jman19

Lifer
Nov 3, 2000
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So we've come to a point where every man, woman, and child that's been killed by tobacco is just another statistic to ignore, even though it kills somewhere around 5x as many innocent victims as firearms homicides... but, the puppet masters haven't told you to care about that, like they've instructed you to "care" about firearms victims. It is totally because you care, not an agenda, totally.

Keeping punching that straw you dolt.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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I dislike lists like this as it combines both suicides and homicides. Which are two separate issues with difference areas of focus/solutions/laws.
.

Of course you do. You've been reactivated by the NRA/whoever to spout the same tired nonsense that is, to us and literate people, complete cliched, defeated, old nonsense. You don't have data. You don't have logic. You just have the same ridiculous catered talking points with windowed time periods of numbers that never support your arguments.

You're just another bot. None of this is new here. You aren't some brilliant actor here to inform anyone. You aren't adding anything. You're just spouting old nonsense that doesn't work on an educated audience. Go back to trolling GUNS4LYFE forums or ILUVESISTERS and TRUMP4LYFE forums or whatthefuckever.

And if they give you another allotment of borscht for the week, you didn't deserve it.
 
Mar 11, 2004
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Of course you do. You've been reactivated by the NRA/whoever to spout the same tired nonsense that is, to us and literate people, complete cliched, defeated, old nonsense. You don't have data. You don't have logic. You just have the same ridiculous catered talking points with windowed time periods of numbers that never support your arguments.

You're just another bot. None of this is new here. You aren't some brilliant actor here to inform anyone. You aren't adding anything. You're just spouting old nonsense that doesn't work on an educated audience. Go back to trolling GUNS4LYFE forums or ILUVESISTERS and TRUMP4LYFE forums or whatthefuckever.

And if they give you another allotment of borscht for the week, you didn't deserve it.

I thought it was his mom that stirred the passion in his loins?
 
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You know what's funny is how they act like rappers, yet they hate rappers and rage about them glamorizing guns and violence and treating women like shit. As usual, they're doing what they're trying to denigrate others for. No self awareness yet being wholly absorbed about themselves. Shroedinger's Dickheads.
 
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ch33zw1z

Lifer
Nov 4, 2004
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You know what's funny is how they act like rappers, yet they hate rappers and rage about them glamorizing guns and violence and treating women like shit. As usual, they're doing what they're trying to denigrate others for. No self awareness yet being wholly absorbed about themselves. Shroedinger's Dickheads.

Up next, rage about the Hollywood libtards while obsessing over Hollywood libtards.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Just a reminder, the media LIES about the number of "school shootings." It boosts ratings to dramatize everything, and of course they have an agenda to push. Many of these "school shootings" are not school shootings as we think of when we hear the phrase, "school shooting."
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
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Statistically speaking, I bet more kids die choking on pen caps than getting shot to death in a school.

But, it is a torch the indoctrinated sheeple must carry. They've been programmed to do so and NPCs don't think.
So you don't see any difference in accidental deaths and cold blooded murder of children?

I also don't understand the fucked up thought process in this country that only deaths matter, many of those injuries will have life changing and life long consequences. You also have all the mental truma inflected on those that weren't shot that is not in any statistic but has life changing effects.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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So you don't see any difference in accidental deaths and cold blooded murder of children?

I also don't understand the fucked up thought process in this country that only deaths matter, many of those injuries will have life changing and life long consequences. You also have all the mental truma inflected on those that weren't shot that is not in any statistic but has life changing effects.


Of course I do. That wasn't the point of the comparison. The point was to give an idea of how small the number really is. I want the number to be as close to zero as possible, so do you. But I also don't think we should blow it out of perspective, in 2018 there were a total of 56.6 million kids in school (public and private, K-12th). A very small number of them were killed in a school shooting. That doesn't make it ok because it is a small number, and we should strive for zero. But we shouldn't be fooled into thinking kids are getting shot up left in right constantly in school shootings. That isn't happening no matter how much they try and make us live in fear over it.
 

Zorba

Lifer
Oct 22, 1999
14,875
10,300
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So we've come to a point where every man, woman, and child that's been killed by tobacco is just another statistic to ignore, even though it kills somewhere around 5x as many innocent victims as firearms homicides... but, the puppet masters haven't told you to care about that, like they've instructed you to "care" about firearms victims. It is totally because you care, not an agenda, totally.
Except it is illegal to smoke inside Walmart in every state. Yet, you can open carry a loaded AK-47.

Edit: My 3 yo daughter has never been exposed to second hand smoke for more than a very brief passing by outside. Yet, she is exposed to second hand guns all the time from carrying pussies.
 
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nOOky

Platinum Member
Aug 17, 2004
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I'm not seeing anything in any of these threads about ideas to solve the issue. It's just the usual whiny scared conservatives hollering "don't take away my guns" with no actual ideas what to do. And the liberals at least want to do something other than let it become the status quo. How sad is it when people like Slow justify murdered children by saying that at least it's not as frequent as old people dying from smoking related illnesses. And the liberals *may want to take away all guns, but it will never happen. How come we can't at least talk about limiting the number of rounds a gun can hold to 3-5, the majority of the latest shootings were legally purchased guns and accessories.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Except it is illegal to smoke inside Walmart in every state. Yet, you can open carry a loaded AK-47.


So what? There are probably numerous guns around you every day and you don't know it. The law abiding gun owners aren't the problem. Just like it isn't legal to smoke in walmart, it isn't legal to shoot people in one either. Smokers still have their cigarettes on their person. The thing is, even if Walmart was a gun free zone, people that want to kill other people don't care about Walmart's sign.
 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
17,305
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I'm not seeing anything in any of these threads about ideas to solve the issue. It's just the usual whiny scared conservatives hollering "don't take away my guns" with no actual ideas what to do. And the liberals at least want to do something other than let it become the status quo. How sad is it when people like Slow justify murdered children by saying that at least it's not as frequent as old people dying from smoking related illnesses. And the liberals *may want to take away all guns, but it will never happen. How come we can't at least talk about limiting the number of rounds a gun can hold to 3-5, the majority of the latest shootings were legally purchased guns and accessories.


I've suggested universal background checks before. That doesn't infringe on our rights and could over time help keep some guns out of the hands of some number (maybe not a totally insignificant amount) of people that shouldn't have them. But, due process must be followed to put someone on the no-gun list. I'm for things like that, measures that can make a difference and aren't obvious trampling of rights. But, I'm very much against meaningless do nothing regulations that do nothing but harm legal gun owners, suppressor bans, magazine capacity limits, "assault" weapons bans, etc.

Also, I've read that as many as 2300 children a year die due to tobacco, roughly 1000 more than are killed by firearms.
 
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