10 years for consensual sex

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Sureshot324
The judge who gave this sentance deserves far worse than this kid.

Mandatory minimum sentencing. Nothing the judge can do.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: ChaoZ

Originally posted by: ElFenix
it wasn't consensual.

Yea it was. The girl initiated it too.

Fifteen-year-olds are not mentally equipped to consent.

not mentally equipped? so when exactly DO kids know right from wrong? i'm sorry, but anyone with a half decent conscience can tell what they are doing, especially in this case, is wrong in some sense, but you can always choose to (not) do something.

So what age would you pick? 14? 13? 12?

 

[Viper GTS]

There's a lot more to this story, he's in jail due to his own stubbornness.

Is the law retarded? Yes.

Was he given plenty of opportunity to get off lightly? Yes.

Viper GTS

 

[50cent1228]

that suxs

 

[mercanucaribe]

You know how laws like this get passed? By "thinking of the children".

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: Fenixgoon

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: ChaoZ

Originally posted by: ElFenix
it wasn't consensual.

Yea it was. The girl initiated it too.

Fifteen-year-olds are not mentally equipped to consent.

not mentally equipped? so when exactly DO kids know right from wrong? i'm sorry, but anyone with a half decent conscience can tell what they are doing, especially in this case, is wrong in some sense, but you can always choose to (not) do something.

So what age would you pick? 14? 13? 12?

They know right from wrong exactly at the moment they turn 17. A second before that moment, they don't know, but then a magic right and wrong fairy sprinkles pixie dust on them at the exact moment of their 17th birthday, and all of a sudden they know. Yep, exactly at age 17.

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
There's a lot more to this story, he's in jail due to his own stubbornness.

Is the law retarded? Yes.

Was he given plenty of opportunity to get off lightly? Yes.

Viper GTS

I think you should research the story some more.

 

[Dudewithoutapet]

Some of that didn't make sense. "plea deal: five years in prison and register as a sex offender. He turned it down.

The other students at the party took that deal and some of them are out of prison by now." Yet, he is only two years into his sentence? Shouldn't it have been equal to or more than 5 years by now? WTF?!?!?

 

[Kadarin]

Quote from the article that sums it up:

I think about his case and the more I read about his case, the more I think prosecutors have a duty to make sure they don?t take cases to trial that they can win, when the punishment doesn?t fit the crime. Prosecutors have discretion, and they have to use it fairly and wisely.

The problem is that prosecutors are not using that discretion, as they wish to be seen as "Doing Something(TM)", rather than doing what's right.

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
You know how laws like this get passed? By "thinking of the children".

*thinks of the children*
fapfapfap

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: chuckywang

I think you should research the story some more.

Quoted for stupidity.

Viper GTS

 

[Brainonska511]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: chuckywang

I think you should research the story some more.

Quoted for stupidity.

Viper GTS

So you call up to 5 years of jail time, admitting to doing something wrong, and being registered as a sex offender "light"?

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: chuckywang

I think you should research the story some more.

Quoted for stupidity.

Viper GTS

So you call up to 5 years of jail time, admitting to doing something wrong, and being registered as a sex offender "light"?

Light is a relative term.

I don't necessarily blame him for rejecting the deal the first time around but when the prosecutor goes out of his way to offer the deal AFTER conviction a little common sense should come into play.

Don't get me wrong, I think he got screwed. But it could have been FAR easier for him. Specifically, he could have been out by now.

Thus my original statement:

...he's in jail due to his own stubbornness.

Viper GTS

 

[Accipiter22]

that case still pisses me off when I read about it

 

[LegendKiller]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: chuckywang

I think you should research the story some more.

Quoted for stupidity.

Viper GTS

So you call up to 5 years of jail time, admitting to doing something wrong, and being registered as a sex offender "light"?

Light is a relative term.

I don't necessarily blame him for rejecting the deal the first time around but when the prosecutor goes out of his way to offer the deal AFTER conviction a little common sense should come into play.

Don't get me wrong, I think he got screwed. But it could have been FAR easier for him. Specifically, he could have been out by now.

Thus my original statement:

...he's in jail due to his own stubbornness.

Viper GTS

Are you kidding me? Consensual oral sex? 2 years apart? WTF? We are worried about stupid crap like this? The south is full of a bunch of sexually oppressed rednecks and the US, in general, is full of prudes.

It's ridiculous that this was even a law, let alone them convicting a person on it.

 

[Alone]

Who would take the 5 years and register as an offender if he did nothing wrong? Just because he chose to fight it doesn't mean he deserves such a horrid punishment. The sad part is that they could have had full-out intercourse and he would only have been slapped with a misdemeanor.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: LegendKiller

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Brainonska511

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: chuckywang

I think you should research the story some more.

Quoted for stupidity.

Viper GTS

So you call up to 5 years of jail time, admitting to doing something wrong, and being registered as a sex offender "light"?

Light is a relative term.

I don't necessarily blame him for rejecting the deal the first time around but when the prosecutor goes out of his way to offer the deal AFTER conviction a little common sense should come into play.

Don't get me wrong, I think he got screwed. But it could have been FAR easier for him. Specifically, he could have been out by now.

Thus my original statement:

...he's in jail due to his own stubbornness.

Viper GTS

Are you kidding me? Consensual oral sex? 2 years apart? WTF? We are worried about stupid crap like this? The south is full of a bunch of sexually oppressed rednecks and the US, in general, is full of prudes.

It's ridiculous that this was even a law, let alone them convicting a person on it.

Just ignore Viper. He's just bitter that no one would ever do anything consensual with him.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: sixone
So what age would you pick? 14? 13? 12?

Well apparently you think that 15-year-olds have a half-functioning brain, yet 17-year-olds are fully responsible for their actions and have a full knowledge of the legal system, so...

Under Georgia law at the time, this was considered aggravated child molestation, a felony for teens less than three years apart to have oral sex.

Is that a typo? Seems odd if not. So if she was 13 everything would be A-OK?

On the other hand, 17 and 15 IS within the 3-year prohibition, so maybe it's not a typo. Who drafted that law?

Originally posted by: Viper GTS
There's a lot more to this story, he's in jail due to his own stubbornness.

Is the law retarded? Yes.

Was he given plenty of opportunity to get off lightly? Yes.

Viper GTS

5 years and registration as a sex offender? That's a hell of a deal there, chief.

 

[Aimster]

The prosecutor needs to be punched in the fAcking face and sent to jail for life. Scumbags like this are who I am worried about.

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: MAME
Just ignore Viper. He's just bitter that no one would ever do anything consensual with him.

Watch your tongue. Viper may be brash at times but his civility is still miles ahead of yours it seems.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MAME
Just ignore Viper. He's just bitter that no one would ever do anything consensual with him.

Watch your tongue. Viper may be brash at times but his civility is still miles ahead of yours it seems.

whoops, looks like one person will do something consensual with him after all

 

[KarenMarie]

The governor should just pardon him.

 

[Agentbolt]

Fifteen-year-olds are not mentally equipped to consent.

Jesus Sixone, please tell me you're simply trying to make waves. So you seriously believe that as a 15 year old, she had no mental ability to make a choice about whether to blow TWO guys on camera or not? I know you're not that stupid.

If you want to say "as far as the law is concerned she had no ability to make that decision" or something, fine, that's obviously the case. It's a completely BS law, if she'd shot someone she'd be tried as an adult (so she somehow would've magically gained the ability to make her own informed choices) but at least it's really the law. He's 17, I don't understand how you can be so darn sure he was able to make an informed decision about it. Maybe I missed out on mandatory "Decide whether or not it's okay to let some girl give you a BJ" classes when I turned 16. If so, damn the feeble New Hampshire educational system.

If you're seriously going to try to tell yourself that, regardless of the law, she didn't know EXACTLY what she was doing...

 

[0roo0roo]

justice not found...

 

[boredhokie]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: MAME
Just ignore Viper. He's just bitter that no one would ever do anything consensual with him.

Watch your tongue. Viper may be brash at times but his civility is still miles ahead of yours it seems.

I don't want anybody else
When I think about you I touch myself
Ooh I don't want anybody else Oh no, oh no, oh no

You're the one who makes me come runnin'
You're the sun who makes me shine
When you're around I'm always laughin'
I want to make you mine

I close my eyes and see you before me
Think I would die if you were to ignore me
A fool could see just how much I adore you
I'd get down on my knees; I'd do anything for you

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