If you are in Cali, i think the best deal is at Fry's for the Kingston Hypermedia 50 pack 12x 700 meg discs...light green bottoms, burn fine on my Yamaha 8/8/24 IDE and my friends burners (Plextor 8/4/32 and Plex 12/10/32). They go for $9.50 a spindle...even cheaper than Outpost, especially since it stopped offering free overnight shipping...