$100-150 card online 4X AGP

[The Green Bean]

wots an msi card?

 

[The Green Bean]

Will this definately work on a 4X support motherboard

ATI Radeon 9600 Pro

Specifications:

Mfr Part Number: 100561SR
Graphics Chipset: Radeon 9600 Pro
128MB of double data rate SDRAM
Connectors: TV-out, DVI, Dual Head
AGP 8x support
Bulk Package

Manufacturer: Sapphire
MPN:
Package: BULK
Warranty: 1 Year Limited

All products from Knowledge Micro are brand new and factory sealed.



Availability: Usually ships the next business day

 

[techwanabe]

Originally posted by: hatim
Are u sure Cuz i was supposed to get a MX440 but it dint support 4X and dint work or thats atleast what the comp guy said.

I have found 1 for about 100 dollars also.

Im getting a good deal on a 9200 128 DDR. will the 4200 outperform the 9200?

Also does 4200 have directX9 support, and will it work well on future games? Otherwise ill jus get a 4600.

Looks like i wont be making another upgrade for abt 1.5 years. So i want a gud card.

thanx hatim

Do NOT get the MX440... it is a cripple GF4 card. Avoid it like the plague. The Ti-4200 is your best buy. The 9600 pro will out perform it with full anti aliasing turned on... otherwise they are about the same so save the $$ and get the GF4-ti-4200.

MSI is a brand name... they also make motherboards... we have a ton of them at my office.

 

[The Green Bean]

so any 8X card will work on mine?
otherwise to be on the safeside ill jus pay the Xtra $5

 

[The Green Bean]

Originally posted by: novice

Originally posted by: hatim
So Will the Ti 4200 be far better than a radeon 9200?

Yes. Check out the benchmarks

here , and here.

Even though the Ti4200 is an older card, it is still a very good DirectX 8 performer. Many of the newer cards are cut down versions of previous cards, i.e. the FX5200, the Radeon 9000/9200, the Radeon 9600. All of these "newer" cards are somewhat stripped down versions of the previous models that actually don't perform as well as the cards they are intended to replace. They are, however cheaper to manufacture for the factories, so they can be sold for the same price, with greater profit for the company. Most people would highly recommend the Ti4200 over the FX5200, the Radeon 8500 over the 9000/9200 or the RAdeon 9500 over the 9600. That is why the prices of these "older" cards have held up so well.

u mean itll be quite a bit faster?

 

[The Green Bean]

is this a good deal?
its onlyl $2 more than novice but atleast i have peace of mind that what i have ordered will work. Without the retail box how will i get it? Will i be able to resell than.... A properly packed card would be better cuz itll haved ta be packed in a bag and all...Or is there no point?

thanx all

 

[The Green Bean]

GeForce4 Ti 4200 128MB DDR 4x AGP TV OUT



Is this wot im looking for? its $101 Here

 

[Eagle17]

Ok let me try and help clear a few things up. First the 4600 is the exact same as a 4200 with higher speeds on the memory and GPU, Second if you are interested in games that are DX9 than you may want to stick with the 9600pro it will give you the same speed as a ti4600 in older games and will give playable speed in newer games like Half Life 2 and doom3. I do not know what type of games you like to play but I would certainly stay with at least a 9600pro if you worry about the future.. the TI4x00 series is starting to finally drop off and in about 9 months they will be about as valid as a GF3 ti500 is now. I would stay away from the 9200 9100 or 9000 as they are in the class of the GF3 series and are slower than any of the ti4x00 series cards. Also overclocking is pretty easy and has been very sucessfull on the 4200 128mb cards, and many of the radeon 9600 pro cards. If you do decide on the 9600pro stay away from the EZ models as they have low and slow memory.

BTW your MB looks fine but to play some of the newer games you will also need a new Processor but you have a good 3 months and buy then you should be able to get a 2.4 or a 2.66 for under $100.

Good Luck and I hope you get that bargin your hunting for. I have a ti4200, 9600pro and a 9700pro at 1024x768 with no extra quality (AA or AF) they are all playable with current games like battle field 1942, or Unreal Tournement, however I just got tomb raider 6 AOD which is a DX9 game and it is not as playable on the TI4200 even though I have it overclocked to 4600 speeds.

 

[The Green Bean]

Thanx.
I like to play mostly strategy games and 1st peron shooters. I should be able to play HL2 and doom3.

Will the Dx9 games run a lot slower on a ti. Im not worried too much about grafics and more about speed. I would like the card to last me 1 year atleast. I donot mind spending a few extra $$ as long as im guarenteed that the card will work that long.

Also in currrent games which is faster. I am most interested in playing generals. Which works at a reasonable speed with radeon 9200.

What price range will the 9700np be?
Or should I jus stick with the ti? Ill be able to resell it for quite a bit in pakistan if i decide to upgrade.

The bottom line is that I want a card that will last me 1-2 years work fast on current and future games and be under $175

thanx
confused hatim

 

[The Green Bean]

I guess ill jus stick with the Ti though cuz tis as fast as the 9600pro only without DX9 support and ill get a gud resale Value also.

 

[Eagle17]

well the TI will be fine for any of the stratagy games, even WC3 runs great on these games, I only worry about the newer games but if you can get a good resale value than you should be safe with the TI it will give you great gameplaying now.... which is what counts though I would expect the games that start coming out from now on to start to really slow down on them.

one last note. the 9600pro does not use very much power at all, less than the ti4600 so if that is a concern than you might look at the extra $50 for the 9600 also ATI has a top notch driver devopment department now and they are even getting better, I would now (in light of some of the glarring problems of the fx cards) put them above the nvidia driver department. the only place they are lacking is the linux front (not for long the cats for linux will be out soon.

after re-reading some of the main reviews I would say get the ti and wait for the games that will need more speed come out. you have about 3 - 6 months for HL2 and doom3 and buy then ati and nvidia will have new hardware out wich should make the current stuff more affordable.

 

[The Green Bean]

The main problem then will be shipping....No fear, ill figure that out by that time...

SO the Ti4200 It will be

 

[The Green Bean]

After having done all the hard work, I cant find a site that accepts internatioal credit card

 

[Johnbear007]

That may be good, since the TI was a bad decision. Everyone pushed the TI in earluy agust and it was stupid. I said it was an old card, and it is.

look at half life 2 performance on a 9600 and then on a ti


what

 

[modedepe]

Originally posted by: Johnbear007
That may be good, since the TI was a bad decision. Everyone pushed the TI in earluy agust and it was stupid. I said it was an old card, and it is.

look at half life 2 performance on a 9600 and then on a ti


what

Wtf is that supposed to mean that it's "stupid" that it was pushed? For $100 it's still a hell of a card. A 9600 pro is another $60. The performance it's getting in the hl2 benchmarks is roughly what i suspected it would get, and is definitely enough to play it. The only surprise is that the 9600 pro did so well.

 

[Johnbear007]

Originally posted by: modedepe

Originally posted by: Johnbear007
That may be good, since the TI was a bad decision. Everyone pushed the TI in earluy agust and it was stupid. I said it was an old card, and it is.

look at half life 2 performance on a 9600 and then on a ti


what

Wtf is that supposed to mean that it's "stupid" that it was pushed? For $100 it's still a hell of a card. A 9600 pro is another $60. The performance it's getting in the hl2 benchmarks is roughly what i suspected it would get, and is definitely enough to play it. The only surprise is that the 9600 pro did so well.

It was stupid that the ti4200 was pushed so hard and the 9600 was belittled.

and no, it is NOT another 60$. this guy was spending a 140$ on a ti4800 and could have gotten a 9600 pro for 150

Yeah, I know the ti4200 was a good card in its day, but I think people fell so in love with it that they pushed it for too long, and in this situation it would have been better to get the 9600, as in many other situations.

Too often there is a 'golden boy' product around here that everyone pushes way too hard without thinking about it well enough.


what

 

[modedepe]

Ok, I agree that for $150 you're much better off getting a 9600 pro as opposed to a ti4x00. But still, at the $100 price point you can't beat the ti4200. It is still a solid performer in dx8 games, and even hl2 performance isn't bad. You'll probably get 40 fps--pretty good considering even the top performer only gets a little over 60.

 

[novice]

Johnbear007 wrote: "It was stupid that the ti4200 was pushed so hard and the 9600 was belittled.

and no, it is NOT another 60$. this guy was spending a 140$ on a ti4800 and could have gotten a 9600 pro for 150

Yeah, I know the ti4200 was a good card in its day, but I think people fell so in love with it that they pushed it for too long, and in this situation it would have been better to get the 9600, as in many other situations.

Too often there is a 'golden boy' product around here that everyone pushes way too hard without thinking about it well enough."

I don't think we were pushing the Ti4200, we were just suggesting it as a very good card for the money. The 9600 Pro is also a good card, but significantly more expensive. I was also concerned that a 9600 would push his power supply over the edge since he already admitted to some random reboots, so I was thinking cheap Ti4200 and use the additional dollars for an upgraded power supply. If the guy blows all his money on a 9600 pro, and totally destabilizes his system, he will become an ATI flamer for the next 6 months, since he would not have the cash for the needed new power supply. Sometimes people assume that everyone can just go out and buy an Antec Tru Power 430 watt PSU to run their new "uber" video card, but not everyone has the budget available to do that. Perhaps our advice was aimed at one of those people, not that we were pushing anything.