$100 instant rebate off in-store purchases of Toshiba HD DVD players. Also included are 5 free HD DVDs.

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craftech

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Originally posted by: videopho
Originally posted by: Eug
I feel your pain, but some people have indeed gotten their discs.

P.S. I'm not sure I see what the problem is with firmware downloads. I've done such upgrades with various hardware many times.

Some people tend to get careless or lazy to read its fine print and get burned in the process.
Upgrading the firmware with dvd/cd player needs an ISO burn disc to do so successfully.

Both of you missed he point. The point I made was that just like with the joke free DVD offer Toshiba does not take care of their customers. A card for a firmware upgrade comes with the players. Send it in and you are "lucky" if you get it. Call to ask where it is and you are "lucky" if you get it. I did both for TWO players and I did NOT GET THE DISCS.

Now, am I capable of burning an ISO from a download? The answer is yes.
BUT as a consumer I expect Toshiba to deliver what they advertise and promise and they DO NOT.

So my ability to work around Toshiba's FAILURES to its customers is irrelevant.

John
 

craftech

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Here is a more typical post regarding the free DVD offer as opposed to the one quoted above from the Toshiba rep who lurks that forum to put people off.

"I called just to see what the update was. Same thing. Your order is being processed and will be shipped shortly. I told the CSR that they have been telling me that now for months now, and that statement is not very assuring. I mean, what exactly is being processed? They have my name, address etc and they verify it everytime over the phone. They know what movies I want. I'm in the system, so what is there to process? I feel sorry for the poor people manning these phone calls because there are undoubtably people who will take out their frustrations on them.

Another thing, the lady I spoke to said that when my movies ship, that it would take 4-6 weeks to arrive. I don't understand how shipping can take 4-6 weeks in the continental USA. Is it being sent by pidgeon? I assume it's being sent by Media Mail, but how could it take that long? Almost June now. Winter, Spring and almost Summer now. I've basically been waiting almost 3 seasons for this offer. Utterly ridiculous to wait half a year for this. I've written this rebate off completely. I'm not calling to find out anything anymore, it serves no purpose, i'll get the same scripted answer about it being processed. Quite frankly, if I actually receive anything, i'll be pleasantly surprised. "


I am in the same boat as that poster as you will be if you think you are going to get your free DVDs without MAJOR frustration. If the $100 instant rebate is a good deal let that be sufficient. If you are going for the deal based upon the $100 AND the free DVDs (that you won't receive) then let the buyer beware.

John
 

Eug

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Originally posted by: craftech
Here is a more typical post regarding the free DVD offer as opposed to the one quoted above from the Toshiba rep who lurks that forum to put people off.

"I called just to see what the update was. Same thing. Your order is being processed and will be shipped shortly. I told the CSR that they have been telling me that now for months now, and that statement is not very assuring. I mean, what exactly is being processed? They have my name, address etc and they verify it everytime over the phone. They know what movies I want. I'm in the system, so what is there to process? I feel sorry for the poor people manning these phone calls because there are undoubtably people who will take out their frustrations on them.

Another thing, the lady I spoke to said that when my movies ship, that it would take 4-6 weeks to arrive. I don't understand how shipping can take 4-6 weeks in the continental USA. Is it being sent by pidgeon? I assume it's being sent by Media Mail, but how could it take that long? Almost June now. Winter, Spring and almost Summer now. I've basically been waiting almost 3 seasons for this offer. Utterly ridiculous to wait half a year for this. I've written this rebate off completely. I'm not calling to find out anything anymore, it serves no purpose, i'll get the same scripted answer about it being processed. Quite frankly, if I actually receive anything, i'll be pleasantly surprised. "


I am in the same boat as that poster as you will be if you think you are going to get your free DVDs without MAJOR frustration. If the $100 instant rebate is a good deal let that be sufficient. If you are going for the deal based upon the $100 AND the free DVDs (that you won't receive) then let the buyer beware.

John
Yeah, that sux.

From what I've read the rebate deal up here in Canada (3 HD DVDs last year) went much more smoothly. People sent in their forms, and then 6-8 weeks later, they got their HD DVDs.

Clearly, whoever is handling the stuff in the US this time around isn't up to the task.

EDIT:

It seems that Toshiba is offering the 3 free HD DVD deal again in Canada. They've managed to avoid the delay altogether. The 3 free HD DVDs come right in the box:

The Fast And The Furious: Tokyo Drift
The Perfect Storm
Black Rain

Not the greatest selection, but some stores are allowing you to exchange the HD DVDs for others if you don't like the selection. Either way it seems that the US organizers of the Toshiba free HD DVD deal perhaps should take a few pointers from the Canadians.
 

Eug

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Originally posted by: mrrman
yeah but for the price $249US vs $499CDN...the US price is more attractive
I've seen it at CAD$399 from time to time, but yeah, even then the US price is more attractive. With the high Canadian dollar right now, CAD$399.99 is US$370.50.

However, I don't live in the US.

Anyways, the main point I was trying to make is that whoever is handling the free HD DVD deal up here for Toshiba Canada is more on the ball. Last year's free mail-in deal for HD DVDs worked quite smoothly in Canada apparently, and this year they eliminated it altogether and just went with discs right in the box.
 

Nutdotnet

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Am I missing something...what are you guys wanting to buy an HD-DVD player that can only go to 1080i/720p? Or am I wrong???

 

Eug

Lifer
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Both Electronics Expo through Amazon.com and TigerDirect.com have the HD-A2 for $250 as well now.

Amazon.com itself has it for $280 with free shipping.

BTW, the Toshiba HD-A2 is now the #1 selling DVD player at Amazon.com, beating out all the standard definition DVD players too.


Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Am I missing something...what are you guys wanting to buy an HD-DVD player that can only go to 1080i/720p? Or am I wrong???
The vast majority of TVs cannot accept 1080p inputs. For those TVs, it's pointless to have a 1080p player.

A 1080i player is fine for most people. Furthermore, 1080i60 has ALL the information contained in a 1080p24 source, which means that if your TV's de-interlacer is a good one, it doesn't even need a 1080p player. It just extracts the 1080p24 information from the 1080i60 signal.

However, if you really want an HD DVD player that can output 1080p, then you have the option of the HD-A20 or the HD-XA2.
 

Nutdotnet

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Originally posted by: Eug
Both Electronics Expo through Amazon.com and TigerDirect.com have the HD-A2 for $250 as well now.

Amazon.com itself has it for $280 with free shipping.

BTW, the Toshiba HD-A2 is now the #1 selling DVD player at Amazon.com, beating out all the standard definition DVD players too.


Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Am I missing something...what are you guys wanting to buy an HD-DVD player that can only go to 1080i/720p? Or am I wrong???
The vast majority of TVs cannot accept 1080p inputs. For those TVs, it's pointless to have a 1080p player.

A 1080i player is fine for most people. Furthermore, 1080i60 has ALL the information contained in a 1080p24 source, which means that if your TV's de-interlacer is a good one, it doesn't even need a 1080p player. It just extracts the 1080p24 information from the 1080i60 signal.

However, if you really want an HD DVD player that can output 1080p, then you have the option of the HD-A20 or the HD-XA2.

Gotcha, thanks dude. I have a 720p TV myself and was debating on either the $250 model or the Xbox360 HD-DVD player...
 

exm

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Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Am I missing something...what are you guys wanting to buy an HD-DVD player that can only go to 1080i/720p? Or am I wrong???

It's all marketing, my friend. While 1080p is technically better, it is hard to see a difference between 1080i and 1080p, especially on smaller sets. If you have a large (50"+) set, which has 1080p/24 support; then go for a 1080p/24 player (the A20 and XA2 will have 1080p/24 support in an upcoming firmware update). But for the average HD set, 1080i will do just fine.

There is a ton of information out there: just Google 1080i vs 1080p
 

skriefal

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Very, very few televisions support 1080p/24. Most "1080p" televisions are 1080p/60. You generally need a very expensive HD front projector to get 1080p/24 support.

And unless your television or projector has a very poor or broken deinterlacer, you won't see any diffference between a 1080i HD player and a 1080p HD player. The "1080p > 1080i" thing is mostly a marketing gimmick, at least in regards to HD-DVD/Bluray playback.
 

Eug

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Originally posted by: RaGe420
Originally posted by: Eug
The Toshiba HD-A2 is now $237.88 at Amazon.com from Electronics Expo.
Too bad it has 30 shipping on it
Still not bad. But then again there's still always the Costco $249.99 HD-D2 deal.
 

GZeus

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Available from Amazon for $267 with free shipping and no tax (for most).... thats pretty tempting.
 

videopho

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Originally posted by: GZeus
Available from Amazon for $267 with free shipping and no tax (for most).... thats pretty tempting.

Deal

Tempting but must take a rain check since I just burned $600 for a 22" monitor and a 8800GTS
 

mrrman

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Originally posted by: Eug
Originally posted by: RaGe420
Originally posted by: Eug
The Toshiba HD-A2 is now $237.88 at Amazon.com from Electronics Expo.
Too bad it has 30 shipping on it
Still not bad. But then again there's still always the Costco $249.99 HD-D2 deal.

Is this listed on their website? I could not find it...if so i will pick it up in Oregon and pay no tax/shipping.
 

Eug

Lifer
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It's now $237.88 + free shipping direct from Amazon.com itself. :Q

Don't click on the Electronics Expo deal at Amazon. It's the same price, but they charge $30 shipping.

Link

I think this is as low as it's gonna go folks.
 

videopho

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Amazon site is slightly OOS or "In-Stock soon"
Wow, $237.88 for a nice hd player.
Would this place another nail in the Bluray coffin?
Need someone to buy my xbox 360 hd-dvd player so I can afford this.
 
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