That's hard even on 1%er salary. You need to hit 7 figures for beach house and annual supercar. You have no chance with $100kHonestly $100K is not even that much when you have a certain life level...I wouldnt even remotely call someone who earn $100k more then a middle class guy...
you cant buy an attic facing the beach, you cant own a supercar and cant afford to change it every year, let alone certain type of rich lifestyles...[/QUOTE]
Majority of devs aren't at the big tech companies or finance; The payscale at those companies is drastically different. And you're in a top 3 cost of living area, like you said.I couldn't imagine being a senior developer, let alone a lead, making anything remotely less than $100k. That is just absurd to me.
From my job hunting, the big companies aren't the ones that pay the big bucks. It's the smaller companies that pay better because they realize how much a good dev is worth, whereas these big ass companies you're just a statistic.Majority of devs aren't at the big tech companies or finance; The payscale at those companies is drastically different. And you're in a top 3 cost of living area, like you said.
Anyway. I have a BS in CS and have been in the software engineering field since I graduated, about 10 years ago.
From my job hunting, the big companies aren't the ones that pay the big bucks. It's the smaller companies that pay better because they realize how much a good dev is worth, whereas these big ass companies you're just a statistic.
My property taxes in jersey are around $7k per year. I'm in a bargain spot. Friends in higher class neighborhoods pay 10-15k per year. I will live in jersey during family years until retirement then I'm outta here.
I dunno I've had Amazon contact me and I didn't even consider it because the pay isn't anything I'd consider. It's less than I'm already making right now. I know Google has great pay since one of my old tech leads left to go work for them, but he also had to move to Mountain View so I'm not sure how far that salary went. I wouldn't even consider working for MS though, not sure how their pay is. I know that IBM's pay is also lower than what I make right now, as was Capital One because they also contacted me and I didn't get past the initial phone screen since their pay and full benefits isn't anything I would consider - not good enough.There's different tiers of big companies, I guess. In my experience, the top paying companies are in the finance world, followed by the "elite" big companies - the Googles, Facebooks, Amazons, Microsofts of the world. You can get lucky at a startup - they give a lot of equity, and sometimes that pays off - but I've yet to see any company compete with big tech or finance on compensation. Benefits especially, no one really comes close to big tech in that arena.
I dunno I've had Amazon contact me and I didn't even consider it because the pay isn't anything I'd consider. It's less than I'm already making right now. I know Google has great pay since one of my old tech leads left to go work for them, but he also had to move to Mountain View so I'm not sure how far that salary went. I wouldn't even consider working for MS though, not sure how their pay is. I know that IBM's pay is also lower than what I make right now, as was Capital One because they also contacted me and I didn't get past the initial phone screen since their pay and full benefits isn't anything I would consider - not good enough.
I couldn't imagine being a senior developer, let alone a lead, making anything remotely less than $100k. That is just absurd to me.
The reason there are so many bad websites and software is because companies don't realize they are not getting good talent with crappy salaries.i was a lead making 80$k a few years ago. hence why i quit.
they get away with it by being one of only 2 or 3 software shops in a 30 mile radius. some people value proximity enough and are commute-limited enough to take it.
I couldn't imagine being a senior developer, let alone a lead, making anything remotely less than $100k. That is just absurd to me.
COL is everything. I have a few friends who I'd guess are near or past seven figures, and that is about the threshold to have a 3 b/r home downtown and live it up without the mortgage feeling like a heavy load. The suburbs are a lot cheaper, but then you're spending an hour in traffic twice a day. Again, real estate prices here are nuts.
That is pretty much the range I'd require minimum to move to San Diego, and I haven't had much luck finding anything with my brief search, in that range.Even in SoCal, the pool of 180k+ jobs can't be endless. Certainly not unless you're lucky or very experienced and good at what you do.
My GF started right out of her CS degree at a small-ish company a couple years ago at over $100k with about (currently) $50k worth of stock RSUs. Since then she's gotten like $20k worth of raises and another $20k worth of RSUs
With bonuses and OT my wife and I both busted 100K at 30. Now both of our bases are over 100K at age 32. I've got a BS & MS in mechanical engineering and she has a BS in Aerospace and Mechanical. Considering we living in Oklahoma and my 280K house here would cost well over 1M in the LA area, I feel pretty rich bringing in about 225K/yr combined before bonuses, especially since I have zero debt of any kind.
I've had several offers in SoCal in the past, and although they did pay a little more than Oklahoma, it was like ~10-15%, no where near the difference in cost of living. If I could figure out how to live in SoCal without being broke, I'd move there in a second.
Daaaan you must be earning around 500kGiven the demographics here it would not surprise me in the slightest if a majority of posters here were over $100k.
Think about it - We have a whole bunch of people who have been posting on a technology focused internet forum for 15+ years. Many of them (myself included) started in the very early days of our income earning years in jobs that afforded us time to hang out here. We are now solidly mid-career at this point. Forums have not exactly been attracting fresh blood so those of us who are still here are likely in prime earning years.
I would think similar things about places like avsforum, sixspeedonline, ferrarichat, etc, some for even more obvious reasons.
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Zorba, stay in Oklahoma - you are essentially living like a king there. 280K leaves you very very comfortable in SoCal, but you'll nowhere near as cushy financially. If you miss the things in Socal, then find a way to bring them to Oklahoma lol.