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Kadarin

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My 42" plasma has this resolution, so how do I get a PC (Windows or Mac) to match this resolution? Anyone else face this?
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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I don't have a whole lot of experience with this, but wouldn't sending a 1024x1080 resolution (in hopes of getting 1:1 pixel mapping) create a very distorted picture since the plasma has non-square pixels?

I would assume that the best route to go in would be to send 1920x1080 and hope that the TV does a good job scaling it?
 

Kadarin

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What seems to happen in Snow Leopard with tools that are supposed to set custom resolutions (switchresx and newscreen) is that it gets forced to the nearest "supported" resolution, and that it's not accepting custom settings. If I send a 1920x1080, it forces to the "1080i" setting, and on this tv it looks far worse than 720p.

More research needed, I guess.
 

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What kind of video card and what version of windows? Sometimes you can download custom drivers and/or overclocking software (you don't have to overclocked) that allow you to force a progressive format instead of an interlaced format.

Guru3d.com Hosts some of those drivers and software.
 

Kadarin

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What kind of video card and what version of windows? Sometimes you can download custom drivers and/or overclocking software (you don't have to overclocked) that allow you to force a progressive format instead of an interlaced format.

Guru3d.com Hosts some of those drivers and software.

It's a Mac Mini running 10.6.2 with 9400M video. I could put either XP or Vista Home Premium on it if I had to. The tv is supposed to support up to 1080i.
 

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Can you post screen shots of your graphics settings tabs on your mac? Myself or some one else may be able to lead you to the right spot on with the drivers you already have.

I know my windows drivers (nvidia as well) give me the options to setup a tv and force automatically 720p.
 
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sdifox

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Check what the native resolution of your display is. Set computer to that resolution (for that port)
 

Kadarin

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Check what the native resolution of your display is. Set computer to that resolution (for that port)

It sounds reasonable enough, but that's the point of this thread: The native resolution of the display is 1024x1080, but the computer simply will not set the resolution to this.
 

sdifox

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It sounds reasonable enough, but that's the point of this thread: The native resolution of the display is 1024x1080, but the computer simply will not set the resolution to this.


What cable are you using for computer to tv? use a dvi-hdmi cable if at all possible. VGA port on TVs tend to be bandwidth limited. Also, check if your video driver has compensation for square pixels.

Don't know shit about MacOS so can't help you on the specifics settings.
 
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Kadarin

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What cable are you using for computer to tv? use a dvi-hdmi cable if at all possible. VGA port on TVs tend to be bandwidth limited. Also, check if your video driver has compensation for square pixels.

Don't know shit about MacOS so can't help you on the specifics settings.

The Mac Mini has a mini DVI to DVI adapter, which connects to a DVI-HDMI cable. Sound is output through an optical. In OSX I do not know if it is even possible to see or adjust low level driver settings.

When I get some free time, I'll put some version of Windows on the machine in a dual-boot configuration via Boot Camp, and see what's possible there.
 

sdifox

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yes, I win, I can still double post....^_^
 
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sdifox

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The Mac Mini has a mini DVI to DVI adapter, which connects to a DVI-HDMI cable. Sound is output through an optical. In OSX I do not know if it is even possible to see or adjust low level driver settings.

When I get some free time, I'll put some version of Windows on the machine in a dual-boot configuration via Boot Camp, and see what's possible there.

I am assuming you also have a normal monitor hookup at the same time? what does the video driver say? But seeing how it is MacOS, you might be handcuffed, enclosed in a steel cage and bricked in.
 

Kadarin

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I am assuming you also have a normal monitor hookup at the same time? what does the video driver say? But seeing how it is MacOS, you might be handcuffed, enclosed in a steel cage and bricked in.

There is no simultaneous normal monitor hookup; the tv is the only monitor. However, the same situation occurs if I connect the MacBook Pro to the tv (where the tv becomes the secondary monitor). AFAIK there are no video driver diagnostics, but I'll look into that.

BTW this is Apple we're talking about, so that steel cage actually has foam padding around the bars
 

sdifox

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There is no simultaneous normal monitor hookup; the tv is the only monitor. However, the same situation occurs if I connect the MacBook Pro to the tv (where the tv becomes the secondary monitor). AFAIK there are no video driver diagnostics, but I'll look into that.

BTW this is Apple we're talking about, so that steel cage actually has foam padding around the bars


Maybe you should just call Apple...
 

Kadarin

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I think I have partially solved this. My tv has a "picture format" mode, which was set to Automatic. I set this to "Wide screen" so that it no longer attempts to dynamically fit the picture to the screen. Once this is set, if I go to the Mac display properties and disable Overscan the Mac desktop shows completely in the screen, with a black border around it. This works for either 1080i or 720p resolution, where 1080i has more screen real estate whereas 720p has much sharper text.

This solution, I think, is "Good Enough(TM)".
 

sdifox

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I think I have partially solved this. My tv has a "picture format" mode, which was set to Automatic. I set this to "Wide screen" so that it no longer attempts to dynamically fit the picture to the screen. Once this is set, if I go to the Mac display properties and disable Overscan the Mac desktop shows completely in the screen, with a black border around it. This works for either 1080i or 720p resolution, where 1080i has more screen real estate whereas 720p has much sharper text.

This solution, I think, is "Good Enough(TM)".


It is probably as close as you can get with Apple. They don't recognise there is anything else you can plug your Apple computer in other than an apple monitor.
 
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