1080 Ti? Wait for Vega? Curious what you guys think.

[DamZe]

$700+ is a mighty price tag for a relatively aging architecture which shares its IPC with Maxwell. I personally would have said "go for it!" had it come out last year and the question was asked. But I would wait for Vega which should be out in a couple of months (I hope!) to see what kind of performance we will get. If you can easily afford it, then it doesn't matter you get the fastest single GPU solution right now.

And I know it probably is common knowledge on these boards but if you can buy a quality G-SYNC 144hz monitor to pair it with a modern nVidia GPU you probably will be good to go for years to come.

 

[2is]

Ryzen was showcased by AMD pre-release, with much lower clocks then once released.
Vega was showcased by AMD pre-release, with very possible lower performance/clocks then once released, in fact more than likely*.

Do you see the similarities between these two releases ?

Don't put words in my mouth, let my sentences speak on its own merit.

I think Vega could be much faster then Pascal Titan depending on what game you are benching it in.
GP102 could very well to be faster in games using old 2011 tech, while getting rekted in newer games. (dx12/vulcan)

I object when nonsense are left unchallenged, when its only purpose is to bolster a specific agenda, hence:


* = You can be the judge if AMD is underselling their performance @ http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/vega-navi-rumors.2486940/page-63#post-38803933
We are also getting very much off-topic, so i will try to leave it at that

Your words have no merit. All they say is "Vega will be the faster card in games where it's the faster card."

Congrats though, you've perfected the art of talking a whole lot while simultaneously saying absolutely nothing.

 

[Headfoot]

Honestly, I'm going to get an aftermarket 1080 ti. And if by some chance Vega seriously outperforms it, I will just sell the 1080 Ti likely for pretty dang close to retail value and get Vega. As long as you're willing to do a little wrangling you can buy now and still get to choose later for not a lot more money overall.

 

[Batmeat]

This question has been hashed and re-hashed a lot. I'm tired of it, but still going to stick my 2 cents in. Wait for vega. Why you ask? The 1080ti will likely be better, but vega may cause a price drop. We already know vega will run Doom at 4K with all the goodies turned on. I haven't seen the 1080 do that yet, but I also have looked into yet. AMD previewed it as a teaser video.

As others have said, if you have money to burn then burn it on whatever vid card you want. You can always sell it later.

I personally am waiting. I also like the fact the card will be smaller then the 1080ti due to the HBM2. How much smaller??? Don't know, but I'm betting it's smaller and will take less power to drive.

 

[GoodRevrnd]

I'm waiting. I doubt it will be faster. Maybe it'll cause a small 1080ti price drop. But by the time Vega launches there will be a better selection of aftermarket 1080 cards. So why not wait on the off chance that Vega is better when I'll get a better 1080 even if it's not?

 

[Jackie60]

I'd wait for Vega if at all possible. I don't think 1080ti or Vega will be anything like overkill for the OP because games always get more demanding as GPUs improve. Look at that POS Ghost recon Wildlands as a good example. As GPUs get more powerful game developers get lazier too!

 

[Muscles]

I've been wanting to build a new machine now for awhile and I'm holding out until Vega and Ryzen 5 are released. Most merchants are price gouging 1080 ti anyway right now. The stock on Ryzen motherboards will be much better too by the time Vega is released.

 

[Headfoot]

I'm waiting. I doubt it will be faster. Maybe it'll cause a small 1080ti price drop. But by the time Vega launches there will be a better selection of aftermarket 1080 cards. So why not wait on the off chance that Vega is better when I'll get a better 1080 even if it's not?

Personally, I'm not waiting because Mass Effect Andromeda runs below my standards on my 290 and I want to try it at 4k HDR on my 4k HDR tv, and I don't want to wait longer to play it than I have to

 

[ddogg]

Personally, I'm not waiting because Mass Effect Andromeda runs below my standards on my 290 and I want to try it at 4k HDR on my 4k HDR tv, and I don't want to wait longer to play it than I have to

Just know you won't get 4k/60 with a Ti on mass effect with every setting maxed out. My fps generally hover in the mid 40s to low 50s with AA disabled with dips into the low 30s during certain cut scenes. I do see 70+ fps in less intensive scenes.
I'm sure you could get a steady 60 if you dropped a few more settings.

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[Headfoot]

Just know you won't get 4k/60 with a Ti on mass effect with every setting maxed out. My fps generally hover in the mid 40s to low 50s with AA disabled with dips into the low 30s during certain cut scenes. I do see 70+ fps in less intensive scenes.
I'm sure you could get a steady 60 if you dropped a few more settings.

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Yeah I'll probably shoot for high, No AA on 4k

 

[IllogicalGlory]

If we're (un)lucky, Vega might be out before custom 1080 Tis are easily obtainable.

 

[HurleyBird]

I would wait for Vega, and then if that sucks wait for Volta.

If the 1080 Ti had come out closer to the time of the Titan XP, I'd have an easier time recommending it, but:

-It's already pretty late into the generation.
-Pascal wasn't much of a change architecturally from Maxwell, which has been a blessing for Maxwell owners, but I expect that Volta will be a larger change, and probably larger than Kepler->Maxwell.
-Which means that Pascal is liable to drop off the same performance cliff, relative to AMD at least, that Kepler did, or worse.

In short, I'm worried that the 1080 Ti will suffer a similar fate to the 780 Ti, which looked like a great card at the time but ended up being a truly terrible investment. There's also the fact that, since you're still rocking a 290, you don't seem to be the type to upgrade too often. It's hard for me to recommend an Nvidia card to that type of person unless it's close to the start of the generation.

 

[w3rd]

Again, the 1080ti is great for g-sync set ups, or people with sub-4k displays.

If you want more, then wait for Vega.

 

[ddogg]

It didn't take long for the "wait for Volta" advice to pop up. Guess when Volta drops, we tell people let's wait for Navi

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[Capt Caveman]

First non-reference 1080 Ti for only $10 more than reference and surprisingly still available - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137111

 

[TemjinGold]

First non-reference 1080 Ti for only $10 more than reference and surprisingly still available - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137111

No free game?

 

[KentState]

First non-reference 1080 Ti for only $10 more than reference and surprisingly still available - https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137111

Wow. It's actually in stock on top of being listed.

Personally, I see no point in waiting when you can always buy something faster in 3-6 months if necessary.

 

[bystander36]

If the OP is buying ahead of his need for a new card, you wait. It's foolish to buy a card before you need the performance gains, but if you need a new card, then buy the GTX 1080ti and be done with it. You never now what is coming around the corner, and if you always wait for the next greatest card that is coming, you'll wait forever. It's also months of sub-par performance.

Of course if you have no need to buy a card now, then waiting allows you the chance to get a faster card later, or better prices on existing cards.

 

[richaron]

Personally I don't understand why people suggest OP buys now when they have a perfectly serviceable GPU already. Maybe it's just me but I buy GPUs to last a couple of years, so to wait a couple of months to consider the competition is a no-brainer.

The "there's always something else coming" argument is meaningless when these muppets start equating waiting for Vega, coming in a couple of months, with waiting for products years in the future.

 

[96Firebird]

Wait for whatever is after Navi. No point in buying now when it will be obsolete by 2021.

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[flash-gordon]

I think you should ask what to do for someone who bought a 6800K on January/February... they have the most qualified opinions by now.

 

[bystander36]

Rereading the first post, it would appear the OP has no video card now. The choice was whether to buy a GTX 1080 or 1080ti. Not whether to go without a video card until the next great thing to come out.

Unless the OP is ok without gaming for a few months, then the choice is between those 2 cards.

 

[guskline]

moonbogg is one COOL CAT!

 

[2is]

Rereading the first post, it would appear the OP has no video card now. The choice was whether to buy a GTX 1080 or 1080ti. Not whether to go without a video card until the next great thing to come out.

Unless the OP is ok without gaming for a few months, then the choice is between those 2 cards.

See thread title

 

[bystander36]

See thread title

He still doesn't have a video card. He is choosing to not game for a few months to see if Vega is worth buying, or buying a GTX 1080 (ti) now. Unless he's ok with not gaming, you choose between the available cards.