1080ti: what will be the gap between founder's edition and msrp pricing.

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Flapdrol1337

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It's hard to say how optimistic nvidia has been with their msrp. 1080 and 1070 prices still haven't settled yet. When a shop here lowers prices of a 1070 to below 500 euro the cards sell out quickly.

Some shops are also still trying to sell 970's for 300 euro. Ridiculous.
 

amenx

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Price will likely be based on % performance diff vs 1080, + a little for premium grade status. If Vega is out around same time and does well or better for less $, then that obviously will have an effect. If Vega is out but not faster, but just another bang for the buck killer, I doubt it will affect NVs premium grade pricing.
 

vissarix

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there wont be an gtx1080ti till amd comes out with something competitive...nvidia is going to release a titan with $1000+ price...

when amd will catch up then nvidia will release the gtx1080ti cut down or full with higher clocks depending on the necessity to beat amd counterpart...

they did the same with gtx780ti and gtx980ti...
 

nkdesistyle

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titan cards always come before the Ti cards. They don't need a Ti they will drop a Ti when Vega comes. No need for it for now. They need something to ruin AMDs launch. Thats just how they usually do it. They held off the 980ti to piss on fury. They will try doing the same here. By then 1080 will settle around 599 and they can price this at 750 or so or drop the 1080 and price 1080ti competitively with vega if vega is on par with performance. That is usually how it goes.
 
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Seeing how Nvidia has successfully promoted their products at lower prices than they are actually available for even from themselves, I don't expect this to stop anytime soon.

In fact I predicted founders pricing and many others did as well.

So what do you think the gap will be?
It SHOULD be $650 msrp $1000 founder's edition.

My guess is $700 msrp $900 founder's.

Also, if you don't have your Nvidia stock or call options now.... Better get them in soon.

I think that the 1080 Ti FE will be priced at $899, with MSRP (aka minimum advertised price) at $799. So, $100 premium.
 

DooKey

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I think that the 1080 Ti FE will be priced at $899, with MSRP (aka minimum advertised price) at $799. So, $100 premium.

Yep, reasonable opinion of future pricing. I don't believe there will be a Titan FE. Titan brand is already considered premium.
 
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Yep, reasonable opinion of future pricing. I don't believe there will be a Titan FE. Titan brand is already considered premium.

Agreed, Titan is the Founders Edition.

Anyway, my guess is that we see Titan P in August of this year, with the 1080 Ti in September/October to coincide with some of the hot new FPS releases (Battlefield 1, Call of Duty: IW, etc.)
 
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there wont be an gtx1080ti till amd comes out with something competitive...nvidia is going to release a titan with $1000+ price...

when amd will catch up then nvidia will release the gtx1080ti cut down or full with higher clocks depending on the necessity to beat amd counterpart...

they did the same with gtx780ti and gtx980ti...

Disagree, always better to have the market to yourself than to share it, this means better pricing power.

I expect 1080 Ti to come out well ahead of Vega so that NVIDIA can capture sales at higher price points. Then, as needed, NVIDIA can lower prices to compete with Vega if need be until it rolls Volta GV104/GV102 out sometime in the second half of 2017 (this is just a guess).
 

moonbogg

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Might be the usual and widely accepted, not to mention negligible $100 tax for the FE 1080ti. All I know is if my rig can wreck BF1 then I'm not spending a dime. These prices make me sick. Not to mention I went back to school recently and am now working part time, so I am entering full blown ramen mode. I need to further my education so I can afford these ridiculously priced gaming cards. "Nvidia: Forcing gamers into higher education since 600 series"


Also, for the record, Titan P should be named GTX 1080 and should cost $600.00. Lets not forget where we came from and where we should still be.
 
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alcoholbob

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GTX 980 price didn't even immediately drop when the 980 Ti came out, IIRC it was several weeks after it was released before it went from $549 to $499.

At release, the $649 980Ti was 30% faster than the GTX 980 but only 25% more expensive.

So most likely when the 1080 Ti drops it will be dollar for dollar similar in value to the GTX 1070; cost maybe around $849 or $899 which is 21-29% more expensive than the GTX 1080 but be about 35% faster (assuming it's a cut down Titan which is 40-45% faster than the 1080).
 

RussianSensation

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Might be the usual and widely accepted, not to mention negligible $100 tax for the FE 1080ti. All I know is if my rig can wreck BF1 then I'm not spending a dime. These prices make me sick. Not to mention I went back to school recently and am now working part time, so I am entering full blown ramen mode. I need to further my education so I can afford these ridiculously priced gaming cards. "Nvidia: Forcing gamers into higher education since 600 series"

Also, for the record, Titan P should be named GTX 1080 and should cost $600.00. Lets not forget where we came from and where we should still be.

Congrats! Investing in yourself is building your human capital and network. Money well spent unlike Titan ePeen editions.

$799 1080Ti AIB
$899 1080Ti FE
$1299-1499 Titan ePeen

I think AMD will aim Vega 10 in the $329-499 pricing segment and Vega 11 will be the $500-700 card. This should allow NV to have a performance lead with 1080Ti and charge $800+.

And honestly, given the $249 560Ti is selling for $649-699 as a 1080, NV might as well go $899 1080Ti and $999 1080Ti FE and move Titan ePeen to $1.5K. I still think they may not go this aggressive yet. Raising prices slowly shocks the market less and it gives room to reach these levels with Volta.

Now that we know that NV splits a generation into 2 halves, no matter what 1080Ti costs, in 12-18 months GV104 x70 card will make it look like an overpriced turd. The flagship GPU market is now solely aimed at those who absolutely do not care about resale value. We are going back to the days of $830+ 8800GTX Ultra:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/2222

The difference is I think 1080Ti won't even be the fully unlocked 3840 CC Pascal. It's going to be a $349 GTX570 successor

It's simple supply and demand. As long as consumers keep buying (and apparently 1080 is NV's best selling high end card), it would be stupid for NV to not keep raising prices.

NV's loyal customer base shares many characteristics of loyal Apple buyers. Here in Canada the iPhone 6S 16GB costs > $1000 after taxes and people buy it. In some circles the pretentious image and high price actually make the product more desirable. Seems NV has been able to master this in recent years. In the past, many PC gamers wanted to spend as little as possible to get as much performance as possible for their $$$. Now, a PC enthusiast is someone who can afford the most expensive toys and are actually proud to spend more as a way to differentiate themselves from "peasant tier" PC gamers. Almost no one even questions how we went from a $249 560Ti to $499 680 to $699 1080 in a matter of 6 years. Nope, instead, it's "AMD cannot compete so I have no choice but to pay these prices!!"

I think NV should introduce an Early Adopter/PC Enthusiast Program where you get pre-order dibs on their fastest card for the first 3-4 months for a $200-300 premium. This way NV earns even more $$$ from its loyal customer base while taking 3-4 months to build up inventory for the general public. For instance, this round they could have priced 1080 at $799 starting May, instead of $599 MSRP, and then lower the price once supply caught up by September. If PC gamers are buying mid-range Pascal for $699, would they care if it cost $799-899? It's faster than the Titan X; so clearly awesome value!
 
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96Firebird

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It sucks that AMD has given up on the high end, competition is the only way we'll see prices fall. I guess it's another "wait and see"...
 

tential

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I was going to buy a high end card this generation but instead I'm getting Nvidia stock much better resale value
 

IllogicalGlory

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I was going to buy a high end card this generation but instead I'm getting Nvidia stock much better resale value
It's true. I've been trying to get a used 670 for a couple of tests, but even the near worthless used 2GB blower models still command about a $100 value. Meanwhile, you can get a used aftermarket 290X for less than twice that. Twice the performance (when both cards are working properly) and video RAM, software support, a better custom cooler don't add up to much when it has the AMD name.
 

Bacon1

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It sucks that AMD has given up on the high end, competition is the only way we'll see prices fall. I guess it's another "wait and see"...

Why do people keep saying that AMD has "given up" on the high end? They just went low end first. They are releasing Vega which is a high end chip. They need marketshare because their high end cards don't sell well compared to Nvidia.
 

3DVagabond

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Why do people keep saying that AMD has "given up" on the high end? They just went low end first. They are releasing Vega which is a high end chip. They need marketshare because their high end cards don't sell well compared to Nvidia.

Don't feed him.
 

zinfamous

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$700 reference MSRP
$850 FE MSRP
$1400-1700 actual cost to buy one for the first 4+ months
 

zinfamous

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I was going to buy a high end card this generation but instead I'm getting Nvidia stock much better resale value

Good idea. Better idea would be to buy AMD stock because it has far more potential within the next quarter. nVidia will probably be more flat, no?

AMD = cheaper buy-in + one of the top gainers all year to this point.

Look at that: 6% up already from this morning.

I think earnings report is today or tomorrow? I guess that explains it.

already up 17% from one month ago, and what--260% since February?
 
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