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HighTechJoe

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Thanks for the warm welcome guys! I've been running my 980ti since it was released, and I've suddenly decided its time to order a 1080, hopefully I can get one here Monday. Now I just need to make sure my power supply can feed both cards.

Nothing like a little competition to empty my wallet.
 
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CuriousMike

Diamond Member
Feb 22, 2001
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Yeah, and Nah, I only have five rigs running F@H. Two Thuban 1045T rigs, #1 with 2x 270X 2GB cards, #2 with 3x GTX950 2GB OC cards, two G4400 OC rigs, #3 with 2x 7950 3GB cards, now running at -20% powertune, due to heat reasons, #4 just put back into commission, with a single GTX750ti, and rig #5, my new main rig, with an i5-6400 @ 4.455Ghz, and an RX 460 4GB Nitro card, and a 40" 4K monitor.

You've got to be one of the top 10 computer nerds on AT.
I mean that with sincere respect.
 

Pokey

Platinum Member
Oct 20, 1999
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Is anyone else using a GTX 750 (non Ti) by chance? I had one laying around and its only pulling 300 points a day. That seems really low compared to my GTX 950. Im wondering if its driver related? Its an early revision card, it says GM107 on die. Its also paired with someone elses Christmas present 6700K, but its not Christmas yet is it.

Go back to your drivers. Make sure you are using pre-375.xx drivers.
 

Markfw

Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
May 16, 2002
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Thanks for the warm welcome guys! I've been running my 980ti since it was released, and I've suddenly decided its time to order a 1080, hopefully I can get one here Monday. Now I just need to make sure my power supply can feed both cards.

Nothing like a little competition to empty my wallet.

The 1080 takes less than the 980TI. only about 200 watts or less. I run 2 980TI cards and it draws less than 600 watts. So any quality 750 or more will do the job,.

But 850 or more would be safer.....
 
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VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
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You've got to be one of the top 10 computer nerds on AT.
I mean that with sincere respect.

Thanks! I don't know if I'm deserving of that award though. I'm just a "PC hoarder".

Btw, love your YouTube GoPro videos.

Got... to... stave off Ken_g6...

(Buying another video card as we speak, Ken? Probably, LOL. You'll steamroll me with another GTX1070.)
 
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uhm guys i may have stumbled in a bit of a problem but i'm not really sure. i was checking everything as usual and i noticed a drop of almost 40k in my PPD; a quick look with rivatuner and my 24/7 card dropped around 50 Mhz from her boost frequency. the voltage dropped accordingly to a couple bins less than usual (it's still under the card's control, i'm not forcing a fixed voltage). now, while she's running at excellent temps, steady at 61° celsius, well below any thermal limits, i decided to give her some rest and after a couple hours idle she was back again at top frequency and voltage, always at 61°. now, after only 4 hours, she's dropping again albeit not as much as before. please tell me i'm not frying the board's VRMs... if indeed i'm putting too much strain on the power delivery circuits, i'll have to alternate the cards to give them rest instead of running both of them... and i don't think it's a power supply issue, there is no drop or throttle whatsoever if i run them both while gaming, even for hours, nor the PSU's fan does spin up to maximum speed. did you guys ever experienced something similar? i'd like not to fry one of my cards if possible...
 

Markfw

Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
May 16, 2002
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refresh our memory, what cards ? The only thing I use is EVGA Xprecision and it overclocks and regulates everything automatically. My gut tells me whatever software you are using is slightly downclocking to keep things cool or within tolerance, and its nothing to worry about.

At least in my case, my cards have been running 100% for months with no break, and apparently no damage.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
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My GTX950 2GB OC (MSI) cards seem to be downclocking slightly too. When I first installed them, they were clocking around 1290 core, now they're at 11xx core, and holding steady at 80-81C, which is, I'm guessing, their thermal limit.

I'm running into BIG issues with my G4400 OCed rig, with the TWO 7950 3GB cards. These things are power-hungry monsters. I downclocked them to 700Mhz core, and powertune limit -20%, and they're still cooking my rig, at up to 87C. (Better than 91C, let me tell you that.)

Anyways, downloads were going slowly, and I went to burn a DVD, and UH-OH, no drive. It had disappeared. Well, the top video card, is right over the M.2 slot and the southbridge heatsink is right between the two video cards.

I rebooted into BIOS a few times, and it wouldn't even show my drive.

I replaced the SATA cable, and that seems to have fixed it? Not sure if it was just because I let the rig cool down, or what. It didn't want to boot into Windows several times, though.

This dual video card thing is really kicking my ass. Now I remember why I avoided it so, after having similar types of issues with SLI GTX460 1GB OC cards.

Edit: And if you want to run dual cards, don't pick just any old video card, you need to really research which cards are capable of running dual, without overheating.

These HIS 7950 3GB cards were bottom-of-the-barrel as far as cooling goes, I think that they have a single fan in the middle of the card.
 
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Markfw

Moderator Emeritus, Elite Member
May 16, 2002
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My GTX950 2GB OC (MSI) cards seem to be downclocking slightly too. When I first installed them, they were clocking around 1290 core, now they're at 11xx core, and holding steady at 80-81C, which is, I'm guessing, their thermal limit.

I'm running into BIG issues with my G4400 OCed rig, with the TWO 7950 3GB cards. These things are power-hungry monsters. I downclocked them to 700Mhz core, and powertune limit -20%, and they're still cooking my rig, at up to 87C. (Better than 91C, let me tell you that.)

Anyways, downloads were going slowly, and I went to burn a DVD, and UH-OH, no drive. It had disappeared. Well, the top video card, is right over the M.2 slot and the southbridge heatsink is right between the two video cards.

I rebooted into BIOS a few times, and it wouldn't even show my drive.

I replaced the SATA cable, and that seems to have fixed it? Not sure if it was just because I let the rig cool down, or what. It didn't want to boot into Windows several times, though.

This dual video card thing is really kicking my ass. Now I remember why I avoided it so, after having similar types of issues with SLI GTX460 1GB OC cards.

Edit: And if you want to run dual cards, don't pick just any old video card, you need to really research which cards are capable of running dual, without overheating.

These HIS 7950 3GB cards were bottom-of-the-barrel as far as cooling goes, I think that they have a single fan in the middle of the card.
Larry, not sure why all the issues. When running dual cards (I have 4 dual card boxes ATM), I run everything stock, and run the card fans at 90%, the box side cover off, and one extra 120mm fan pointed between the 2 cards. Oh, and at least one slot open between cards. No problems @!
 

HighTechJoe

Junior Member
Dec 3, 2016
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The 1080 takes less than the 980TI. only about 200 watts or less. I run 2 980TI cards and it draws less than 600 watts. So any quality 750 or more will do the job,.

But 850 or more would be safer.....

I had to check, because it has been a while since I upgraded this PC, but I've got a high quality 850 in there. Just go happens my local Best Buy had the 1080 Founders Edition in stock, so I picked one up a few hours ago and the system appears to be happily chugging away with both cards now. I lowered my CPU threads from 6 to 4 (i7-6700k) to give little more headroom to feeding both cards, looked to be using between 30-40% with it paused. I'm not sure if that was necessary, but I didn't want to choke either of the video cards.
 
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VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
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Larry, not sure why all the issues. When running dual cards (I have 4 dual card boxes ATM), I run everything stock, and run the card fans at 90%, the box side cover off, and one extra 120mm fan pointed between the 2 cards. Oh, and at least one slot open between cards. No problems @!

Yeah, I'm sure that extra 120mm fan helps.

The 3x GTX950 2GB OC rig, has double-spaced slots, and the card is a "shorty" with a single fan.

The 2x 7950 3GB (downclocked) rig, has triple-spaced slots, but is in a cubby.
 

Markfw

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May 16, 2002
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Here are the 2 1080 systems (one doesn't even have the extra fan):
 
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Markfw

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May 16, 2002
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I had to check, because it has been a while since I upgraded this PC, but I've got a high quality 850 in there. Just go happens my local Best Buy had the 1080 Founders Edition in stock, so I picked one up a few hours ago and the system appears to be happily chugging away with both cards now. I lowered my CPU threads from 6 to 4 (i7-6700k) to give little more headroom to feeding both cards, looked to be using between 30-40% with it paused. I'm not sure if that was necessary, but I didn't want to choke either of the video cards.

Yes, feel free to play with cpu allocation, just check utilization after and always use even numbered cores, 2,4,6, etc. If everything is running, and you have 95% or less utilization, you are good. But since the cpu only gets 20k or so, no way you want to limits the GPU ever, since yours do 600k or better each.

I turned off my 6700k altogether for CPU, since it was getting 10k. Not worth the risk for me.
 
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refresh our memory, what cards ? The only thing I use is EVGA Xprecision and it overclocks and regulates everything automatically. My gut tells me whatever software you are using is slightly downclocking to keep things cool or within tolerance, and its nothing to worry about.

At least in my case, my cards have been running 100% for months with no break, and apparently no damage.

two GTX970s, overclocked with MSI afterburner. i've not overvolted anything since either the program or the card's firmware always did everything on their own. they're different models though, the first is a gigabyte windforce and the second one a standard gigabyte OC half length i bought used when i upgraded to a 4k monitor. i must say, the two have different specs not only on the marketing sheet but probably in their firmwares also, because i had to set different power limits to achieve the same (stable) overclock. they are even from the same stepping and in fact, both overclock to 1480mhz at 1.204 volts with exact same temps, but the OC one (which is the one who is downclocking by herself) needs to exceed her baseline power limiter by 12% to mantain that voltage, while the windforce has no issue doing it with only 4%, probably because of different power delivery circuitry. i did however set the software to prioritize power limits over temperature while self regulating, to avoid stressing the power supply, so what you suggest it's entirely possible. i noticed it only because in three days of 24/7 folding the card had no issues maintaining peak voltage and frequency at all times, only today this downclocking issue started. but yes, now that you make me think about it it's probably software. this will cost me 40k ppd though, and that's bad. :/
 

HighTechJoe

Junior Member
Dec 3, 2016
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Yes, feel free to play with cpu allocation, just check utilization after and always use even numbered cores, 2,4,6, etc. If everything is running, and you have 95% or less utilization, you are good. But since the cpu only gets 20k or so, no way you want to limits the GPU ever, since yours do 600k or better each.

I turned off my 6700k altogether for CPU, since it was getting 10k. Not worth the risk for me.

Perfect, thanks for all the feedback. I'm hovering between 90-95% utilization on my CPU, so I think I should be good. I'll see how my numbers look in the morning and may tweak it further.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
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Oh yeah, I discovered my 7950 3GB cards have an A/B BIOS selection switch. At least, it's some sort of switch. And although they are identical model cards, for some reasons, one of the cards was set to one setting, and the other card was set to the other.

Any idea what they do? Overclocking BIOS? Could it be juicing the core with more voltage, and that's why I've got temp problems?
 

borandi

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Just passed Assimilator, Ken_g6. Larry and OrangeKid are next. Trying to keep WarehouseMonkey at bay.

I think after this race I'll stick my old mining cards out to retire; consolidate and move up. Too many 7000 series cards laying around.
 

petrusbroder

Elite Member
Nov 28, 2004
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We have (today) 180 active folders. That is the highest number since I've done the stats for the past 11 years.
We have 63 new users - more than for a very long time.
This is just a great race!
 
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Assimilator1

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Nov 4, 1999
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Excellent!

Damn Borandi! What you running F@H on? I'm only crunching on my main rig (in sig).
Holy S**t! You've got over 10x my output! lol

Oh yeah, I discovered my 7950 3GB cards have an A/B BIOS selection switch. At least, it's some sort of switch. And although they are identical model cards, for some reasons, one of the cards was set to one setting, and the other card was set to the other.

Any idea what they do? Overclocking BIOS? Could it be juicing the core with more voltage, and that's why I've got temp problems?
IIRC, by default the 2nd bios is just a back up bios incase flashing of the 1st 1 goes bad.
What some people (& factories) did though was to flash the primary bios to give higher clock speeds, in which case yes the settings would be different.
Run GPU-Z & see what speeds & voltages you get with the 2 different settings.

Btw, just FYI re temps, I've got Gigabyte HD 7970 (factory o/c of 1 GHz), it's got a big ole cooler on it with 3 fans, with the factory bios fan control it keeps temps to about 60C, which seems fine on the face of it, but it means it makes a bloody racket! I've manually fixed the fan speed to 40% (I can't hear any noise improvements below that), with the highest load GPU WUs I've seen (their seems to be 3 'load types', which gives my PC a power draw of ~380, 400 & 420w) the highest temps I've seen has been in the low 80sC
 

TennesseeTony

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Well I am still only CPU only, since well my mobo won't be arriving until the 12th of dec at the very latest , stupid Australia post, stupid USPS. I have just ordered another pair of E5606's since well the seller isn't responding, and has since refunded me. Grrr
On top of that I don't have a DVI compatible monitor to check if the card works or not, so a DVI to VGA adapter is also on its way

Very sorry to hear of the near continuous setbacks, friend. Look on the bright side, you get to crunch all you want 6 months from now when winter hits! We certainly appreciate you doing your best, especially considering the high temperatures.
 

TennesseeTony

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uhm guys i may have stumbled in a bit of a problem but i'm not really sure. i was checking everything as usual and i noticed a drop of almost 40k in my PPD; a quick look with rivatuner and my 24/7 card dropped around 50 Mhz from her boost frequency. the voltage dropped accordingly to a couple bins less than usual (it's still under the card's control, i'm not forcing a fixed voltage). now, while she's running at excellent temps, steady at 61° celsius, well below any thermal limits, i decided to give her some rest and after a couple hours idle she was back again at top frequency and voltage, always at 61°. now, after only 4 hours, she's dropping again albeit not as much as before. please tell me i'm not frying the board's VRMs... if indeed i'm putting too much strain on the power delivery circuits, i'll have to alternate the cards to give them rest instead of running both of them... and i don't think it's a power supply issue, there is no drop or throttle whatsoever if i run them both while gaming, even for hours, nor the PSU's fan does spin up to maximum speed. did you guys ever experienced something similar? i'd like not to fry one of my cards if possible...

I am not sure this is the same problem, but occasionally, across all five of my boxes, and three types of GPU.....somebody will drop core clock speed (100-200MHz), and stays low until I restart.

I have a Kill-a-Watt meter on my main rig with twin 1070's, and it usually shows 419watts +/-. Anytime I notice the clockspeed on one of those cards has diminished, and my ppd is lower than expected, the power meter shows about a 50 watt drop in power usage. My ppd loss is much greater though, 200-300k.

For me nothing short of a restart fixes it. So, every time I sit at my desk, I scan MSI Afterburner on all the systems (using TeamViewer), check core clocks, then ppd.

One thing of interest, now that I think about it...it is always the card connected to the monitor (if there is a monitor). And once I noticed it happened right after closing Firefox.
 

Ionstream

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Gonna have to take my Fury out of this race. It's started to show mild artifacts when running at 1050 mHz boost clocks. I guess running at 100% load the whole time must've harsh on the chip.

Edit 1: Still trying to figure out the cause of the issue. I can see intermittent black horizontal lines while playing PlanetSide 2, though this happens maybe once or twice every 5 minutes.

Edit 2: Decided to resume, but I've downclocked the thing to 875 mHz. Fiji is actually quite energy efficient. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/54dskp/experience_with_fiji_part_2_how_far_can_you/
 
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