The issue is you self-admittedly know absolutely nothing about the topic at hand, yet you profess to have the solution.
You overestimate the ability of the police to protect you.
That's hard to do...what's "a large amount"?
I have no idea why anyone is allowed to buy assault rifles like he had.
That's hard to do...what's "a large amount"?
I have no idea why anyone is allowed to buy assault rifles like he had.
Also do not forget that i am against a ban of all guns in every situation. As stated in my posts.
For rural areas a gun or a rifle seems actually a requirement. I can understand that. But for cities where people live so close to each other guns should be banned. For obvious reasons. There is the police in cities. In rural areas the distance just is to great to have a police station every few streets.
It seems i have kicked a lot of you in the cojones for making such a post.
None of you people have just answered any the questions i asked in my first post. Simple questions to arms carrying gentlemen such as yourself , or not ?
Or do none of you have any common sense at all ?
Just when you read prohibition of certain arms, you go in red alert mode and all intelligent processes stop ?
Why do you need armor as a citizen ?
Some of you talk about caliber, i agree i do not know much about it, inform me. What is reasonable and what should not be on the market ?
What weapons do you as gun owners think are excessive and should not be sold ?
I do not want to make this into a gun control post. It is just obvious that this will be becoming a trend. Crooks with high power rifles and a lot of body armor. That is not okay. You may never to be able to stop all of them, but you sure are going to make it difficult for them with proper prohibition. Giving the police a strategical advantage. (Referring to the bank robbery with all the armor and heavy guns)
But that is something some of you "nice shooting Tex" people fail to see.
Thank you for answering.
What do you think is reasonable when you have to shoot possible rabies infected wild life or some deranged lunatic that wants to munch you into pieces ?
Are 20 bullets enough to be save ?
Looks like he was a neuroscience student who was mad that he couldn't get a job. I blame Obama for giving him the notion that we need more science and engineering students.
Hmmm I'm also a UCR Neuroscience 2010 graduate. Don't remember seeing him.
Either way, he's a PhD student. That's a full time paid job.
Hmmm I'm also a UCR Neuroscience 2010 graduate. Don't remember seeing him.
Either way, he's a PhD student. That's a full time paid job.
Interesting. Do you have any idea how many members there were in your graduating class? I wouldn't have thought that many people would graduate with that major.
This needs to be watched by everyone, including those internet tough guy cowboy "yeah, i totally would have taken him down" ccw holders.
Dude just because you're a coward doesn't mean everyone else is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm9o3vhKoF8
case in point
More importantly, they were obsessed with the movie Natural Born Killers. If you've seen that movie, you know there's no need to associate their behavior with any other media (video games). They were acting-out a fantasy of re-creating the NBK movie.
I see you jackasses are still talking about something that didn't happen, namely CCW rescue of these innocent people from this cowardly little bastard.
Someone PM me when the real discussion begins.
I think it's important to discuss that topic a bit as well. If for no other reason than to prevent further loss of innocent life.
I'm talking about some untrained CCW carrying civilians taking matters into their own hands and possibly causing even more deaths or injuries. Have you thought about what would happen if an untrained civilian pulled out a gun and started trying to shoot this gunman? In the hectic, chaotic, dark, smoke and irritant filled room with adrenaline pumping they could miss the gunman and shoot an innocent bystander trying to get away.
You bet the subsequent investigation will turn up which bullet killed the innocent bystander. Even if no criminal charges would be filed, of which I'm not sure of, certainly a civil suit of wrongful death would follow by the victim's family. Then you will have 2 additional, preventable victims. The bystander getting shot by a stray bullet and the recipient of wrongful death or criminal charges. Think twice before you play Counterstrike in real life kids.
More importantly, they were obsessed with the movie Natural Born Killers. If you've seen that movie, you know there's no need to associate their behavior with any other media (video games). They were acting-out a fantasy of re-creating the NBK movie.
lol. Gun sales surge in Colorado.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/national/central/view.bg?articleid=1061147395&srvc=rss
Nothing like a good massacre to get the hillbillies riled up for some good times. I'm sure the gun nuts all secretly love this sort of drama. I'm sure they wet their beds thinking about it and wish they had the guts to do such a thing.
It seemed he was heavily armored. Can someone give some real advice what kind of gun and caliber bullets would have been needed to stop him ?
He carried also a vest such as this. I assume for all the magazines with ammunition.
Would the magazines not also deflect incoming bullets ?
How big is the chance of a magazine with ammunition exploding on bullet impact ?
I read that a lot of John Wayne characters here would loved to have a true shoot out with this guy. Now i am sure some of you might actually be good marksmen. But you forget about the bystanders. How big do you think the chances would have been that bystanders would have been killed by flying bullets aimed wrong and ricocheted bullets ?
The point is that the only way this massacre could have been prevented is not by concealed carriers but by a special type of police officer with a very heavy gun with a very heavy caliber bullet designed to penetrate armor. A police officer that is always present at the theater. But what happens when this officer get shot and his high power rifle with bullets stolen. To solve that problem we need a group of police officers that can protect themselves as well as the public. But that is not possible and to expensive.
The solution is simple. I am pro gun control, although i do not have a problem with shooting ranges but i know it is very sensitive to people. Thus it is better that :
(An example of course, not a real law)
- Only small caliber guns are to be sold.
- Selling large calibers should be prohibited with a very heavy penalty.
- Selling armor and body defense to the public should be prohibited with a very heavy penalty.
- Selling of ammunition is only allowed in small quantities and empty shells must be returned in order to be able to buy new ammunition. If this is not done , a very heavy penalty must be occurred by both the seller and buyer of the merchandise.
- A prison sentence of at least 25 years shall stand on violating these rules.
- Shops that sell guns and ammunition should warn or notify the police when someone wants to buy large amounts of ammunition.
This way, people can have their smaller caliber guns to protect themselves from rabid animals or deranged individuals if they need to.
But trying to shoot down a mass of people is a lot less easy.
The problem is that a person with a mental problem may not always be properly recognized as happened all too often. Thus these things are bound to happen unless there is a more intelligent form of gun control as described above. Screening of individuals is at the moment just not possible. A person that is really wackadoodoo may be easy to detect. But a plain guy just as the suspect in this shooting is at this moment not possible to screen out.
EDIT:
I should note that the examples above are about minimizing casualties. One can never rule out that someone will fall victim , but at least the amount will be minimized.
Dude, there's a difference between ROBBERS AND A FUCKING HOMICIDAL MANIAC. You people lack any sort of logic or sense.
And do i even have to go on about the other various differences between each incidents? Or can you figure that out yourself, mr. internet toughguy cowboy? Stop confusing counterstrike and COD modern warfare with real fucking life.