Friend-of-a-friend didn't make it. I'd only meet him a couple times, but he was a nice guy. RIP Alex.
Friend-of-a-friend didn't make it. I'd only meet him a couple times, but he was a nice guy. RIP Alex.
But would you count on it? In such a situation, there's no way i'm just going to 'stand my ground' and take cover and start firing back. Odds are still heavily stacked against you.
Did they raise the death toll to 13?
It seemed he was heavily armored. Can someone give some real advice what kind of gun and caliber bullets would have been needed to stop him ?
He carried also a vest such as this. I assume for all the magazines with ammunition.
Would the magazines not also deflect incoming bullets ?
How big is the chance of a magazine with ammunition exploding on bullet impact ?
I read that a lot of John Wayne characters here would loved to have a true shoot out with this guy. Now i am sure some of you might actually be good marksmen. But you forget about the bystanders. How big do you think the chances would have been that bystanders would have been killed by flying bullets aimed wrong and ricocheted bullets ?
The point is that the only way this massacre could have been prevented is not by concealed carriers but by a special type of police officer with a very heavy gun with a very heavy caliber bullet designed to penetrate armor. A police officer that is always present at the theater. But what happens when this officer get shot and his high power rifle with bullets stolen. To solve that problem we need a group of police officers that can protect themselves as well as the public. But that is not possible and to expensive.
The solution is simple. I am pro gun control, although i do not have a problem with shooting ranges but i know it is very sensitive to people. Thus it is better that :
(An example of course, not a real law)
- Only small caliber guns are to be sold.
- Selling large calibers should be prohibited with a very heavy penalty.
- Selling armor and body defense to the public should be prohibited with a very heavy penalty.
- Selling of ammunition is only allowed in small quantities and empty shells must be returned in order to be able to buy new ammunition. If this is not done , a very heavy penalty must be occurred by both the seller and buyer of the merchandise.
- A prison sentence of at least 25 years shall stand on violating these rules.
- Shops that sell guns and ammunition should warn or notify the police when someone wants to buy large amounts of ammunition.
This way, people can have their smaller caliber guns to protect themselves from rabid animals or deranged individuals if they need to.
But trying to shoot down a mass of people is a lot less easy.
The problem is that a person with a mental problem may not always be properly recognized as happened all too often. Thus these things are bound to happen unless there is a more intelligent form of gun control as described above. Screening of individuals is at the moment just not possible. A person that is really wackadoodoo may be easy to detect. But a plain guy just as the suspect in this shooting is at this moment not possible to screen out.
Don't use this situation to push your gun control bullshit.
Fortunately I think less than 1% of anything he ever says is accurate, and when it is, it's by accident.
Don't use this situation to push your gun control bullshit.
Friend-of-a-friend didn't make it. I'd only meet him a couple times, but he was a nice guy. RIP Alex.
- Also , shops that sell guns and ammunition should warn the police when someone wants to buy large amounts of ammunition.
Sorry buddy.
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- Also , shops that sell guns and ammunition should warn the police when someone wants to buy large amounts of ammunition.
Oh, so now we're playing the need game? We don't NEED most of the things in our life, but it's not up to anyone to say what people do and don't need but the individual. Laws don't stop criminals. Hence why they are criminals. I don't know how many times this has to be said. Killing people is illegal. Did that stop him? You speak of common sense, but I have yet to see any in any of your posts.What do you think you need to defend yourself ? Ha ?
Do you think you need an AK47 or a M16 to defend yourself ?
Why not have a tank to defend yourself ?
Let us go for the the real stuff : Have a nuke in your basement to kill the burglar. :thumbsup:
All that i am writing about is that people are these days given the chance to arm themselves and armor themselves in such a way that it is just beyond common sense.
I can understand that in some of the rural areas, having a gun or a rifle is needed to protect from wild life which may or may not carry rabies. Or from deranged person who lost all touch with reality.
But even in such cases, a high powered rifle is not needed. You are not elephant hunting here. Although i am sure you would love to do that.
Also, full body armor is also not needed.
You should change your name to "pray to satan".
Or at least get your head checked.
That's hard to do...what's "a large amount"?
I have no idea why anyone is allowed to buy assault rifles like he had.
Coward
I don't think he said he predicted it.
He was referring to this video he created back in June.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ryV1_lxF8
Jones will exaggerate some things and not be entirely accurate about other things. But, if a quarter of what he says is accurate, we have problems. I'm not going to get into debating what I think is accurate and not. Do your own research.
Oh, so now we're playing the need game? We don't NEED most of the things in our life, but it's not up to anyone to say what people do and don't need but the individual. Laws don't stop criminals. Hence why they are criminals. I don't know how many times this has to be said. Killing people is illegal. Did that stop him? You speak of common sense, but I have yet to see any in any of your posts.
Take this 20/20 Video on 'If I Only Had a Gun' for what it's worth. Demonstrates what happens to people concealing in crisis situations.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video?id=7312540
selling guns should be banned. Plain and simple
Because banning the sale of drugs has kept drugs from be sold... right?
The issue is you self-admittedly know absolutely nothing about the topic at hand, yet you profess to have the solution.It seems i have kicked a lot of you in the cojones for making such a post.
None of you people have just answered any the questions i asked in my first post. Simple questions to arms carrying gentlemen such as yourself , or not ?
Or do none of you have any common sense at all ?
Just when you read prohibition of certain arms, you go in red alert mode and all intelligent processes stop ?
Why do you need armor as a citizen ?
Some of you talk about caliber, i agree i do not know much about it, inform me. What is reasonable and what should not be on the market ?
What weapons do you as gun owners think are excessive and should not be sold ?
I do not want to make this into a gun control post. It is just obvious that this will be becoming a trend. Crooks with high power rifles and a lot of body armor. That is not okay. You may never to be able to stop all of them, but you sure are going to make it difficult for them with proper prohibition. Giving the police a strategical advantage. (Referring to the bank robbery with all the armor and heavy guns)
But that is something some of you "nice shooting Tex" people fail to see.
You overestimate the ability of the police to protect you.Also do not forget that i am against a ban of all guns in every situation. As stated in my posts.
For rural areas a gun or a rifle seems actually a requirement. I can understand that. But for cities where people live so close to each other guns should be banned. For obvious reasons. There is the police in cities. In rural areas the distance just is to great to have a police station every few streets.