Originally posted by: daishi5
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
Who is this average person? Such blanket statements are fairly stupid. There is no such thing as an "average" person. What about a woman being stalked by her ex-husband, or an elderly man who lives in a bad neighborhood, do they not deserve a tool that can protect them when someone stronger than them attempts to use force to rob them of their lives?
Edit: Just a few days ago you were telling someone they were stupid for not believing in GW because of all the evidence to support man made global warming. However, when it comes to gun control, and all the studies that show it does not do any good, you seem to suddenly believe that research is a foolish thing to listen to. I find your lack of consistency to be very frustrating.
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
And the 13 average people who are now dead might disagree with you.Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
The interesting thing will be finding out when they guy killed himself. Apparently he was not out of ammo so something must have trigged his suicide and I would not be surprised to find out that he killed himself the second the police showed up.
Shooting rampages almost always end when someone else with a gun, usually the police, shows up.
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
so are cars... but i bet you own one.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
so are cars... but i bet you own one.
I don't, but that's besides the point. Cars serve a valid purpose for the average person, Guns do not.
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
so are cars... but i bet you own one.
I don't, but that's besides the point. Cars serve a valid purpose for the average person, Guns do not.
so, home defense is not a valid reason for an average joe? or wait, PERSONAL defense, sorta like what could possibly have been used today in order to prevent the hostage situation...
Originally posted by: jpeyton
Thank goodness his second amendment rights were preserved.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: daishi5
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
Who is this average person? Such blanket statements are fairly stupid. There is no such thing as an "average" person. What about a woman being stalked by her ex-husband, or an elderly man who lives in a bad neighborhood, do they not deserve a tool that can protect them when someone stronger than them attempts to use force to rob them of their lives?
Edit: Just a few days ago you were telling someone they were stupid for not believing in GW because of all the evidence to support man made global warming. However, when it comes to gun control, and all the studies that show it does not do any good, you seem to suddenly believe that research is a foolish thing to listen to. I find your lack of consistency to be very frustrating.
Gun Control does work. Just not in the US because it is too spotty.
Originally posted by: NeoV
see, if those people inside had concealed carry permits, none of this would have happened, just like the students at Columbine - how silly that each and every student wasn't armed
another week - only 2 mass shootings in the US - down from the week prior, still the weekend left to catch up I guess
Originally posted by: daishi5
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
I learned something interesting a few days ago. In countries where they ban guns, people make their own.
Some pictures of homemade guns, including machine guns.
Originally posted by: daishi5
Originally posted by: Sacrilege
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
It makes me realize how people will place the blame on a gun rather than the real causes.
Trying to cure the symptom rather than the disease. Are you really surprised?
The real disease is the hatred for yourself and all other people.
The fact that many people need a gun to feel secure in yourself is just one symptom of this larger problem.
A need for a gun to feel secure is often a recognition of reality, especially for the elderly, or the disabled.
The truth of the matter is when people have access to guns, some people will use them for a bad end, and some people will use them for a good end.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
A lot of things are unnecessary. HDTVs are unnecessary. What's your point?
Originally posted by: poohbear
ROFL!! are u gun advocates delusional?!?
Originally posted by: poohbear
i'm really glad u pointed this out. So, can you give me an example of how guns are used for a good end? is that like, forcing someone at gun point to give to charity? im really curious as it might very well be the most prepostorous thing i've read today, but hey its only 9pm here.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
A lot of things are unnecessary. HDTVs are unnecessary. What's your point?
HDTVs are not designed for Stopping Power.
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
A lot of things are unnecessary. HDTVs are unnecessary. What's your point?
HDTVs are not designed for Stopping Power.
Which is why it's more important to own a gun.
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
A lot of things are unnecessary. HDTVs are unnecessary. What's your point?
HDTVs are not designed for Stopping Power.
Which is why it's more important to own a gun.
No. It's why a Gun is not a Car, HDTV, yadda yadda ya.
Originally posted by: 0marTheZealot
I'm sorry, but this just strengthens my conviction that everyone should have a gun.
If someone had a gun at that facility, this tragedy would have been lessened. He might have only killed two or three people before getting shot to death himself.
Criminals will always find a way to get a weapon to commit a crime, it's up to the people to defend themselves. As we saw again today, the police are simply inadequate to protect you when your life is on the line. Dudes were sitting outside drinking coffee while this guy was executing people. If just one person had a weapon on them, they could have ended this tragedy before it spiraled out of control.
It's really as simple as that.
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: sandorski
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: jpeyton
39 people dead/wounded
That's quite a total. It makes you realize how efficient guns are at what they do.
yup, because the gun pulled its own trigger, and we all know it was legally registered, and bought, along with having a mind of its own to shoot innocent people...
wait...
Fact remains, Guns are unnecessary for the average person.
A lot of things are unnecessary. HDTVs are unnecessary. What's your point?
HDTVs are not designed for Stopping Power.
Which is why it's more important to own a gun.
No. It's why a Gun is not a Car, HDTV, yadda yadda ya.
So, why do you own an HDTV? is it because you want to? Is it because when you come home you want to be entertained by it?
Well, some people own guns because they want to. and some people own guns because when they come home they want to be protected by it.
Do you own a large house, or rent a larger apartment than necessary? Why is that? because you want to have a slightly larger house to feel more spacious?
Well some people own guns because they want to have that extra measure of security to feel more secure.
Do you own a bicycle? Do you own that bicycle because you enjoy riding it and getting exercise?
Well some people own guns because they enjoy hunting and gathering food to keep them healthy.
Do you own a couch? Why is that, because when you sit down you dont want to be uncomfortable on the floor?
Well some people own guns because they enjoy feeling comfortable knowing they are secure due to the feeling of a gun...
should i continue?
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: poohbear
i'm really glad u pointed this out. So, can you give me an example of how guns are used for a good end? is that like, forcing someone at gun point to give to charity? im really curious as it might very well be the most prepostorous thing i've read today, but hey its only 9pm here.
Actually, both of your posts demonstrate a level of stupidity far greater than the one you quoted.
Originally posted by: poohbear
Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: poohbear
i'm really glad u pointed this out. So, can you give me an example of how guns are used for a good end? is that like, forcing someone at gun point to give to charity? im really curious as it might very well be the most prepostorous thing i've read today, but hey its only 9pm here.
Actually, both of your posts demonstrate a level of stupidity far greater than the one you quoted.
have you herad of ad hominum? because that's all you do. are u just gonna hurl insults or do you actually have a counter arguement instead of "u're stupid". but hey i'll play along too, so guess what: YOU'RE STUPID!! see how effective that was? didnt it just demoralize u?!?
so, i'll repeat my arguements which nobody cared to refute:
1.) what about escalation? if everyone can carry crappy pistols "to protect themselves" and a guy walks in w/ an assault rifle & Kevlar body armor, should we all have assualt rifles and body armor close by?
2.) give me an example of how some guns are used for a good end?(as the guy said in his post) is that like, forcing someone at gun point to give to charity? we all know the bad ends for guns, please give me an example for a good end.
thanks.