Yeah, the architects are just the celebrities who come up with weird ideas for how it should look, then take the credit after the civil engineers have done all the hard work of figuring out how to actually build the thing!
Architecture is primarily the design, AFAIK. Actual structural design is left to civil and structural engineers. At least when it comes to public works, you have to have your P.E/S.E. license to work on that sort of stuff
Absolutely shouldn't be FEMA's problem. This is what insurance is for or let the city eat the cost of rescue personnel.because FL will request FEMA emergency funds?
but that's socialism!!! well, the right type anyway. so it's all good! /S
Remaining structure to be demolished tomorrow ahead of TS Elsa.
An architect still has a lot of structural education and, depending on the situation, will do, leverage a lot of existing processes, or work closely with the engineers on the structure. But yes sign off by the engineers is still required for large scale works.Architecture is primarily the design, AFAIK. Actual structural design is left to civil and structural engineers. At least when it comes to public works, you have to have your P.E/S.E. license to work on that sort of stuff
sweet deal. i was always under the impression that it was more the artistic side of building design.An architect still has a lot of structural education and, depending on the situation, will do, leverage a lot of existing processes, or work closely with the engineers on the structure. But yes sign off by the engineers is still required for large scale works.
To get my BA in architecture I had 2 years of physics, 2 years of general structure courses, 1 semester of construction and 1 semester large scale engineering. I got pretty good at calculating point loads, shear forces etc. A licensed architect has to have a masters with even more education. Not comparing education to a structural engineer just noting there is a fair amount of engineering education for architects
Surfside mayor seems like a pretty sensible fellow except for one thing. He bristles when someone says they are doing anything other than a rescue operation. He wants people to assume everyone missing is alive. I'd lay even odds easily they don't find any living humans under that rubble. It's been 10 days, and "rescue" operations are currently suspended. They laid tarps on the rubble prior to bringing down the remainder of the complex.Absolutely shouldn't be FEMA's problem. This is what insurance is for or let the city eat the cost of rescue personnel.
What was left standing coming down-
Surfside mayor seems like a pretty sensible fellow except for one thing. He bristles when someone says they are doing anything other than a rescue operation. He wants people to assume everyone missing is alive. I'd lay even odds easily they don't find any living humans under that rubble.
Perhaps. Still, seeing video of him jacking up people's hope struck me as absurd and uncalled for. I've seen several people interviewed who are close to people who went down with the structure and the great majority say they figure there's almost no hope they'll ever see those people alive again. And most of those videos were done a week or more ago. It's not going to get easier, it's gonna take a long time to find all the bodies. I'd be surprised if they don't find a fair number more than they expect.I don't think someone in that position wants to casually dismiss people's family members as definitively dead. I don't think you want to do that until it's conclusively-proven. Why would you not want to afford people hope? To me it would seem callous for him to write people off as deceased at this point.
There was no opportunity for them to get anything.Did the residents get to retrieve any of their stuff beforehand? Or is that a naive question (on the basis that it would have been far too dangerous to let anyone in there to do that)? Would be quite rough to watch your home and all your possessions be collapsed into rubble, but I suppose that might have been the only option by that point.
Perhaps. Still, seeing video of him jacking up people's hope struck me as absurd and uncalled for. I've seen several people interviewed who are close to people who went down with the structure and the great majority say they figure there's almost no hope they'll ever see those people alive again. And most of those videos were done a week or more ago. It's not going to get easier, it's gonna take a long time to find all the bodies. I'd be surprised if they don't find a fair number more than they expect.
Well, it certainly is a compelling conspiracy theory . Thank you for linking it.This engineer explains it very differently from what the news is saying.
I mostly agree with you; giving people false hope isn't going to end well. One of the FEMA personnel (spokesperson?) interviewed a couple days ago handled it well IMO. She said regardless of the name of the operation, the mission is to return missing people to their families. It acknowledges the reality of the situation without getting into a debate about how realistic it is to find someone alive.Perhaps. Still, seeing video of him jacking up people's hope struck me as absurd and uncalled for. I've seen several people interviewed who are close to people who went down with the structure and the great majority say they figure there's almost no hope they'll ever see those people alive again. And most of those videos were done a week or more ago. It's not going to get easier, it's gonna take a long time to find all the bodies. I'd be surprised if they don't find a fair number more than they expect.
It’s a 30 minute video what is the gist of his analysis?This engineer explains it very differently from what the news is saying.
I watched the whole thing, it's analysis of the available visual evidence with the building plans of the garage. If you watch the last few minutes, that's about all you'll need to know as he summarizes his theory. Basically, due to some design flaws, standing water was slowly seeping into the concrete base around the center of the complex. It's likely that the rebar had rusted and the concrete supporting the building had deteriorated to a point of failure (beginning near the center). He also pointed out that the support beams for the part of the building that was still standing were thicker than the rest.It’s a 30 minute video what is the gist of his analysis?
So no reason to watch it since all of that has been in the news for the last several days.Basically, due to some design flaws, standing water was slowly seeping into the concrete base around the center of the complex. It's likely that the rebar had rusted and the concrete supporting the building had deteriorated to a point of failure (beginning near the center).
Thanks! Sounds like a reasonable take on it.I watched the whole thing, it's analysis of the available visual evidence with the building plans of the garage. If you watch the last few minutes, that's about all you'll need to know as he summarizes his theory. Basically, due to some design flaws, standing water was slowly seeping into the concrete base around the center of the complex. It's likely that the rebar had rusted and the concrete supporting the building had deteriorated to a point of failure (beginning near the center). He also pointed out that the support beams for the part of the building that was still standing were thicker than the rest.
So there really isn't any conspiracy theory; he's just saying that the root cause of the collapse wasn't the pool itself and that makes sense since the pool is at the corner of the property and remained intact. The flat design of the entire pool deck was likely the root cause, as predicted by the 2018 engineering report.
The news hasn't shown the support differences in the parking garage like he pointed out using another engineering firms diagram and how the collapse follows the edge of their change.So no reason to watch it since all of that has been in the news for the last several days.