120GXP 80GB ATA/100 7200RPM HD for $97 shipped

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[MrDurden]

Same drive on pricewatch ships for $93.70 (pre-tax).

IBM
5/31, 1:46 PM
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EIDE 80.0GB Deskstar 7200 rpm
-oem- 3 yrs warranty (Model IC35L080AVVA07) ATA/100 7200RPM 07N8084 EIDE 80.0GB 7200RPM, ATA 100, -oem- 3 year MANUFACTURER Warranty
$80 base
$11 - 13.7 ground insured
total: $93.7
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[rochlin]

Can someone confirm; Isn't this the toxic drive that had dependability problems (IBM sent a warning out), just before IBM folded up their harddrive making operations??

 

[Byte]

i've had well over 30 IBM drives, i don't even know how IBMs RMA service is as i have never had the need. I've figured out what causes them to fail anyways, so i buy tons of them and have no problem at all. WD and Maxtor on the other hand........

 

[CKDragon]

Is it worth the risk? It only has 2 40GB platters, which in my opinion means it should be alright. It seemed that most of the old IBM problems started once you put 3+ platters in one drive (for the 75GXP the most problems were at the 45+GB level, for the 60GXP most problems started once you got to the 60+GB level). If I needed the storage, I think I would bite on this considering it's a 3 year warranty.

CK

 

[MJGunn]

Originally posted by: Byte
I've figured out what causes them to fail anyways, so i buy tons of them and have no problem at all. WD and Maxtor on the other hand........

Would you mind sharing with the rest of us? I've got a 60gxp, and would really really like to know

btw, you're definetly right about WD and maxtor drives, at work, they're ALWAYS the ones I'm replacing......

 

[Vic]

Yes, Byte, please share with us.

 

[Steelwells]

I thought it was fairly common knowledge around the 'net that to keep these extremely hot IBM HD's running, you should directly cool the PCB on the drive itself. Employing a HD cooler isn't really necessary, as long as you get good airflow against the PCB on the bottom of the drive.

This was determined when people were able to "resurrect" their fallen 75GXP's by taking the PCB from a working drive and installing it in a failed drive.

I've lost only one IBM, and managed to get all my data from it before it went down. Cooling only makes sense, and its a cheap alternative to losing 40gb of MP3's or the like.

Hope that helps.

 

[Derango]

Even if it works with the cooling, its better to avoid buying a drive that NEEDS to be directly cooled in the first place, don't you think?

 

[DorseDaDon]

I haven't posted in a while, but I just have to say something about this! IBM Drives and support sucks, period! I have 3 of their drive, a 30 Gig, 60 Gig, and this 80 Gig that's not a hot deal. Only the 30 Gig works, which is a year + old. The 60 Gig didn't work when I got it, I had to pay to return a DOA drive that I paid full price for. Got a referbished drive back that died a week later and I couldn't recover any of my data. So now I have to pay for that drive to be returned, and to get a referbished drive again:| I bought the 80 Gig drive because I thought that maybe it was just that 60Gig model, but the 80Gig drive failed also, leaving me with the shipping back to IBM for two drives, and paying full price for two new drives and receiving two referbished drives. I complained to the tech support, but IBM's policy is to replace bad drives with referbished drives. So if you get a bad drive out the box, you're stuck paying new prices + shipping back to IBM for a used drive! I'll never buy another IBM drive again, I don't care how good their ratings are. I've had on Western Digital drive die on me, and I got back a NEW drive when they replaced it. That's customer service!

 

[laFiera]

ihave a 40gig ibm 60gxp and it's been doing fine, til last week when it started making some funnynoises randomly...
burned all my stuff important there, and now just praying it doenst crash on me........next time, although i haven't had problem with it, i'm not getting an IBM!

 

[sheltem]

Maxtor drives have never failed me before. I never buy IBM anymore. Sold both of my 75GXP since i started having spontaneous corruption.

 

[FatPat]

Since the past 1-2 years IMHO Maxtor and Western Digital = Dependability and IBM = Iffy, except the 40GB.

 

[ChefJoe]

Originally posted by: sheltem
Maxtor drives have never failed me before. I never buy IBM anymore. Sold both of my 75GXP since i started having spontaneous corruption.

ooh, after corruptions started... evil, EVIL

Active cooling has kept both of my 30 gig 75GXPs and a 60 gig 60GXP running since I bought them... two years ago for the 75gxps.

 

[gunf1ghter]

I've never had an IBM drive die on me, but there's definitely something stinky about the history on these things.

I've never had a maxtor or quantum die.

I've had FOUR western digital hard drives go out on me, the most recent one just about 6 months ago. Western Digital's RMA procedure is pretty painless though.

 

[MrDudeMan]

yeah people call IBMs deathstars instead of deskstars, which i dont agree with at all. ive used a ton of IBMs now...they are super quiet, super fast (they seem a LOT faster than all other 2mb cache drives), never had one die, and dont really ever have a problem.


if i didnt already get an 80gb WD SE drive, i would have gotten this. i only got the WD drive because i want it for gaming and the 8mb cache, from what i hear, is extremely useful for fast gaming.

 

[NordicNINE]

I've bought IBM drives for myself, friends, relatives, customers and never had to RMA a single one.

 

[docinthebox]

I had two of the notorious IBM 75GXP 30GB drives. They were fast and quiet when they worked. But they both died after about 6 months of use, one after the other.

The two 60GXP replacement drives I got from IBM have been running well though, for about nine months now. I used to run the drives in RAID-0. Nowadays I run them in RAID-1 and hope that they don't both die simultaneously.

 

[sparkyclarky]

I had my 30 GB 75GXP die a few weeks ago (the infamous click of death showed up). It held out for almost two years, and the last few months of it's life had active cooling directly on the PCB courtesy of a Lian Li PC-60.... Luckily I didn't loose anything except for a few divx flicks and a bunch of music videos, but it still ticks me off. Judging by personal experience, and the experience of numerous others, the last three generations of IBM drives should be avoided until things are sorted out. My WD 100 GB 2mb cache is holding out fine though. Well, you win some, you loose some.

 

[ams30gts]

i no longer trust IBM drives after what happened to my GXP60

 

[MrCraphead]

For those of you who have had IBM drives crap out on them, were you actively cooling them in any way? Or was there no moving air around the PCB at all?

 

[docinthebox]

I have an Antec SX1030 case which came with 1 fan on the front and 1 on the back. I bought another pair of Antec fans so I have two fans on front and two on back. One of the fans ventilates the drives directly. I think my case is quite well ventilated.

 

[Vic]

My 60GXP which died a couple months ago without any warning whatsoever (at the ripe old age of 9 months) was always actively cooled by an 80mm fan in the drive cage of my SX840. Plus it wasn't the controller on it that died, but a read/write head. On a reboot, it made one extremely loud clanking sound and never worked again (although it would make these pathetic clicking sounds afterwards). Luckily, I had bought it from a very cool little mom-and-pop vendor who replaced it no questions asked, so I didn't have to go through IBM's hideous RMA policy, which even requires you to buy the return shipping packaging from a particular vendor.

 

[exharr]

I would be careful. IBM only rates these drives for 8 hours per day. Their lack of confidence in their own drives makes me cautious.

 

[docinthebox]

I think the issue about 8 hours operation per day has been blown out of proportion. If you read this article, basically the 330 power-on hours per month is just a request from desktop OEM vendors to drive vendors to standardize their warranty terms, so you can compare across drives from different vendors. Concluding that IBM intends their drives only to be run 8 hours per day is kind of taking this out of context, IMHO.