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[Wuffsunie]

Gotta agree with classy. crumpet19 states right off that he's interested in the weapon for concealed carry purposes, not to learn how to shoot properly or the like. Definetly going for a 9 to impress his homies.

 

[Babbles]

Even though I have not handled one myself, it seems as if a few of the SIGs are getting good reviews and a buddy of mine loves his (P 229 I believe)

 

[crumpet19]

 

Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Gotta agree with classy. crumpet19 states right off that he's interested in the weapon for concealed carry purposes, not to learn how to shoot properly or the like. Definetly going for a 9 to impress his homies.

read the thread.

 

[classy]

Now just wait a second here. Over the course of the last few years here there have been dozens of gun threads. Its well known I am not a gun advocate at all. But, anybody with common sense has got to say to themselves this guys post smells fishy. Hello!!!!!!!!!!!! He's looking for suggestions on a handgun to carry it concealed. You got all these "good samaritans" running in here giving suggestions, not once asking the question why does he want to carry a concealed gun. Sounds a bit suspicious to me. Its like a guy asking about how to hack into a computer. It just sounds fishy.

 

[kenshorin]

Originally posted by: classy
Now just wait a second here. Over the course of the last few years here there have been dozens of gun threads. Its well known I am not a gun advocate at all. But, anybody with common sense has got to say to themselves this guys post smells fishy. Hello!!!!!!!!!!!! He's looking for suggestions on a handgun to carry it concealed. You got all these "good samaritans" running in here giving suggestions, not once asking the question why does he want to carry a concealed gun. Sounds a bit suspicious to me. Its like a guy asking about how to hack into a computer. It just sounds fishy.

Nothing about it sounds fishy to me, and I am not even a big gun advocate. However I'm also not an anti-gun nazi like you are showing in this thread. There are hundreds of legit reasons people get conceal and carry permits, legally. Stop trolling.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: classy
Now just wait a second here. Over the course of the last few years here there have been dozens of gun threads. Its well known I am not a gun advocate at all. But, anybody with common sense has got to say to themselves this guys post smells fishy. Hello!!!!!!!!!!!! He's looking for suggestions on a handgun to carry it concealed. You got all these "good samaritans" running in here giving suggestions, not once asking the question why does he want to carry a concealed gun. Sounds a bit suspicious to me. Its like a guy asking about how to hack into a computer. It just sounds fishy.

Why is it fishy?

He is planning to do something completely within the law. It is not my business (or yours) why he wants to carry.

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: classy
Its well known I am not a gun advocate at all.

I think you're giving yourself too much credit. No one here cares about you or your opinions troll.

 

Originally posted by: classy
Now just wait a second here. Over the course of the last few years here there have been dozens of gun threads. Its well known I am not a gun advocate at all. But, anybody with common sense has got to say to themselves this guys post smells fishy. Hello!!!!!!!!!!!! He's looking for suggestions on a handgun to carry it concealed. You got all these "good samaritans" running in here giving suggestions, not once asking the question why does he want to carry a concealed gun. Sounds a bit suspicious to me. Its like a guy asking about how to hack into a computer. It just sounds fishy.

Perhaps if you weren't so ignorant about guns you would know that it does not sound "fishy" at all. If he really wanted to participate in illigeal activities, why the hell would he register it? Why would he even get the CCW permit? What does that matter to someone who has no respect for the law?

Not to mention the fact that certain weapons are simply better to carry with that kind of a permit. I wouldnt want some huge ass springfield 1911 .45 to carry on my person. It gets in the way, and could be very clumsy because it will be under clothes. Now, the Glock 19 would be better suited for a CCW simply because it is smaller, weighs less, and is a smaller caliber than his current weapon.

Perhaps if your head werent so far up your ass, you would realize this. Instead, you go around, chanting about how much "evil" this person is going to cause, without looking at some the factors that go into the decision making.

 

[Moemar]

I'm wondering what exactly you're looking for. You mentioned smaller/lighter, 9mm, and price. Which of these is most important to you? As far as size goes, you're probably not going to find anything much smaller than a Glock 27 in a 9mm. The Glock 26 is about the same size as the 27, but you save some on weight. Kahr PM/MK series are a little smaller, but I have no experience with that particular manufacturer, so I don't think I can give any recommendations on them. As I mentioned earlier, the Glock 27 is already a pretty small pistol, since it's classified by Glock as "sub-compact". If you, say, buy a 26, you'll save some weight, but you'll be buying a whole new pistol, which brings into question how much the "inexpensive" part comes into play. I think what I'm getting at is a little more information about your situation could probably give you better recommendations, but in the end it comes down to how much weight you put on each of the criteria.

Oh, and as far as the trolls go, I figure if we ignore them, they'll go away sooner or later.

 

[spyder500]

Glock 26 - 9mm http://www.glock.com/g26.htm
Glock 29 - 10mm http://www.glock.com/g29.htm
Glock 27 - 40 http://www.glock.com/g27.htm
Glock 30 - 45 http://www.glock.com/g30.htm

H&K USP Compact 9mm
H&K USP Compact 40
H&K USP Compact 45 http://www.hk-usa.com/pages/civilian/civilian.html

Springfield XD 9mm Sub-compact
Springfield XD 40 Compact http://www.springfield-armory.com/index.shtml

Sig Sauer P220

Walther P99 http://www.waltheramerica.com/p99_specs.htm

I currently own a Walther P99 9mm. I wish I had bought a H&K USP Compact 45 ;-/

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: crumpet19
It seems I've seen a few of these threads around, so I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.
Basically what I'm looking for is something small. I'd like to purchase a handgun for concealed carry. I don't intend to get the permit for a while, but I'd like to get some familiarity with the weapon first.
I'm looking for something small and light like a keltec p3at or p11.
Prefer 9mm.
Small and light.
Inexpensive. (p38, p11 can be had for <$300)

Any suggestions?

EDIT:
OK, since NO ONE is actually reading the thread, no one saw my update a few posts down. Here, let me paste it up here for you.

I currently own a glock 27 and yes, I've had basic training (safety, maintaning the weapon, and shooting). Of course I will register the weapon on purchase. But, I will hold off on the concealed carry permit until I'm more comfortable with the weapon. I would also like to take some self defense courses -both armed and unarmed. I just want something a little lighter and with a smaller profile than the glock.

I'm not a fan of KelTec's, your Glock 27 is an ideal CC weapon. If you go any smaller, it starts to become a joke rather than CC.

The CC classes are actually a good bit of training about weapons and should be helpful.

Now if you're just loolking to expand your collection (I'm the last one to discourage that) There's a bunch of stuff available. Might I suggest one of the hamerless Taurus 605

 

[Acanthus]

My grandfather is an avid gun collector, hunter, and enthusiast. I frequent the shooting range with him often, im very familiar with gun control and safety. However i do not have a concealed weapons permit because its simply not neccesary in the area i live.

Out of all of the various pistols i target shoot with, the Reuger .45 semi auto is the most accurate firearm in my experience, albeit it is a little large for a concealed weapon.

My grandfather carries a .357 magnum (revolver, 5 shot).

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: Wuffsunie
Gotta agree with classy. crumpet19 states right off that he's interested in the weapon for concealed carry purposes, not to learn how to shoot properly or the like. Definetly going for a 9 to impress his homies.

If he were just looking to get "a 9 to impress his homies", why would he even bother jumping through the legal hoops to get a CCW permit?

You really think your average gang member/drug dealer/etc is going to bother to get a CCW permit?

 

[Viper GTS]

Classy you have yet again proved yourself to be an idiot.

I've had a gun for a few months now & am just now applying for my CCW permit (I go in to get fingerprinted/photographed on the 17th). No, I haven't been carrying unlicensed, and no, I don't intend to commit any crimes. I purchased mine with the intent of eventual concealed carry, & as soon as my background check goes through I will be carrying.

ON topic...

Since you already have a Glock, have you considered one of the sub-compact single stack Glocks? They're pretty damn small.

Taurus also has a line of titanium Milleniums in 9mm, they're interesting but seem to get mixed reviews...

My current item of lust is a Para Carry (dunno if that link works, it's blocked here at work). I know you wanted 9mm, but I've been in love with it since I first touched one. The LDA trigger is amazing. It's 1911 derived, but DAO (ala Glock). 1911Forum has a Para Ordnance section, with lots of threads on the LDA series guns. If you're used to a Glock it will seem quite heavy, but I love it.

Para CCW review

Viper GTS

 

[GoodRevrnd]

I'd find a good compact .380 for conceal carry.

I would say something like a Walther PPK, but that's a bit out of your price range...

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
My grandfather is an avid gun collector, hunter, and enthusiast. I frequent the shooting range with him often, im very familiar with gun control and safety. However i do not have a concealed weapons permit because its simply not neccesary in the area i live.

Out of all of the various pistols i target shoot with, the Reuger .45 semi auto is the most accurate firearm in my experience, albeit it is a little large for a concealed weapon.

My grandfather carries a .357 magnum (revolver, 5 shot).

IMO nothing can beat the .357 Combat Magnum by Smith and Wesson... it's lightweight, will never jam, has hardly any recoil, has many less moving parts than a glock/kimber/etc so less likely to break, and can blow holes through walls. I've also heard you can fire it when it's wet, although I never tried it (I think that's the case with any revolver). Initially, your aim won't be as good as a 9 since it's a higher caliber, but with practice you will be able to blow branches off trees with one shot.

I bought mine in college for $300 but had to sell it It's probably in the $500 range now, I'll probably buy another soon. Anyone know a good website that pricematches revolvers?

 

[MooseKnuckle]

I own a Keltec .32, it's a great carry piece if you're concerned with concealment. It weighs less than my wallet... Alot of credit cards...hehehe. It's not the type of gun you shoot alot. It's a belly gun, meant for close range self-defense. My choice for ultimate carry is a Kimber Ultra, unfortunately they're quite pricey. But worth it nonetheless. Yes, Classy I carry concealed everyday and don't need to explain to you why I feel the need to do so. You're a troll.

 

[BrunoPuntzJones]

Taurus were supporters on the "smart gun" technology stuff, skip them.

Does OK require registration? If not, why register?

So many people hatin' on the Kel Tec.

My view on CCW is a bit different than what other people seem to do. I think when the SHTF and a situation occurs when you need it, a lot of the conventional stuff goes out the window. Things like aiming, shot placement, reloading, etc. I just figure if something happens, it's likely going to be a shot under 10 feet and be over in a few seconds, with both sides running away.

For regular carry, even the smallest of the sub compacts are too big for my liking. Sig 230/2, Glock 26, etc. are just too damn big and heavy to be of any real comfort.

Sure, the NAA revolvers and Kel Tecs are small, but a .22 will kill someone, and they sure as hell aren't going to laugh and keep f'ing with you when shot.

I'll recommend a North American Arms revolver, smaller than a lot of key fobs. Other recommendation would be the Kel Tec .380. Same as the the P32, but a much better round. Khars would be next, but too expensive. I like the Kel Tec, super simple. The P11s have been pretty faultless from what I've seen around here. Don't know of any ever being sent in for repair. The P32s...put a few hundred rounds through it first. If no problems, it's good to go. If it does mess up, send it in for repair, and it'll never have another problem. Both NAA and Kel-Tec are great companies when it comes to service. I personally like both, and know officers who have Kel-Tec P32s for CC.

 

[arcenite]

i second the .50 notion

 

[BadNewsBears]

Originally posted by: classy

Originally posted by: crumpet19
It seems I've seen a few of these threads around, so I figured it wouldn't hurt to ask.
Basically what I'm looking for is something small. I'd like to purchase a handgun for concealed carry. I don't intend to get the permit for a while, but I'd like to get some familiarity with the weapon first.
I'm looking for something small and light like a keltec p3at or p11.
Prefer 9mm.
Small and light.
Inexpensive. (p38, p11 can be had for <$300)

Any suggestions?

You wanna carry a concealed weapon. Your going to buy the gun first and don't intend to get a permit for awhile. And you want suggestions? Give me a break, you sound like a someone looking to commit a crime with a gun.

Dude, your an uber f4cktard. You used the suicide card. Goodbye

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: aRCeNiTe
i second the .50 notion

Basically what I'm looking for is something small. I'd like to purchase a handgun for concealed carry

Did you read the OP, or are you another "OMFG, Deagle Pwns j00!" Desert Eagle fanboy? Because there is nothing chambered for any of the various 50 caliber rounds that I would recommend for CC.

 

[BadNewsBears]

Originally posted by: classy
Now just wait a second here. Over the course of the last few years here there have been dozens of gun threads. Its well known I am not a gun advocate at all. But, anybody with common sense has got to say to themselves this guys post smells fishy. Hello!!!!!!!!!!!! He's looking for suggestions on a handgun to carry it concealed. You got all these "good samaritans" running in here giving suggestions, not once asking the question why does he want to carry a concealed gun. Sounds a bit suspicious to me. Its like a guy asking about how to hack into a computer. It just sounds fishy.

No no it doesnt. Your just an idiot.

 

[Gyrene]

Originally posted by: Mookow

Originally posted by: aRCeNiTe
i second the .50 notion

Basically what I'm looking for is something small. I'd like to purchase a handgun for concealed carry

Did you read the OP, or are you another "OMFG, Deagle Pwns j00!" Desert Eagle fanboy? Because there is nothing chambered for any of the various 50 caliber rounds that I would recommend for CC.

After firing a Desert Eagle, I have come to the conclusion that they suck. Especially for a CCW.

 

[Jfrag Teh Foul]

Isreali Arms does make some very nice 9mms. Very steady and decent size.