128 mb PC133 CAS 2 $86

[Techwhore]

It's generic brand but it's rated at cas2. They item description doesn't say that it supports athlon chipsets but the vendor says it does on the pricewatch description. Anyway, here's the link:

Premier Systems

I tried to check resellerratings.com so i could let ya know if it was a good place but it's down, you're on your own until someone can verify this is a reputable dealer. ENJOY!

 

[mikee]

I think I remember somebody else posting about the Kingmax ram that Premier Systems is selling. Anyhow, checked their rating out on resellerratings on that day and the rating wasn't high. There was only three comments and all were a bit lukewarm. I think all the people got their problems solved though. These guys aren't totally shady.

 

[thereds]

nice.

 

[Techwhore]

hey thanks mikee. I hate posting deals and not letting people know if they're reputable. Good heads up

 

[Bartman39]

Bought some of the PC150 stuff seems to work good but wont do Cas2 over 133fsb (maybe more but will not do 143fsb Cas2 on CUSL2)

Update also the price is now $94.95

 

[Techwhore]

hmm, i thought there pc150 was rated at cas2, it caught my eye but i have no need for such a stick nor will i ever

 

[Agnivarsh]

Could somebody explain the cas thing to me? How is memory rated?

 

[SillyBoy]

Yeeeah Bee Keeper!!! (to everyone else: bee keeper is an inside joke) Nice find, too bad I don't have any money.

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[jhassi]

bad deal, selling for $70 on pricewatch

 

[jhassi]

oh if you think this is a good deal i'll sell ya a 1000mhz AMD Thunderbird for the bargain price of $500

 

[Techwhore]

jhassi, before you come down on others and what they consider a hot deal, you should evaluate the situation before you make a comment. Even more so before a stupid one. The memory you suggested for 70 bux on pricewatch is not rated at cas2... there's a difference between cas2 and cas3.

Agnivarsh, that difference is this. I'll explain it very simply without going into all the details. CAS is Column Address Strobe and RAS is Row Address Strobe. The number is the latency, time it takes, to find a piece of data in either one. They rate mem in cas, i don't know why it's not in ras. Basically the lower the number the better. It give between i 5-15% perf increase over ram of higher latency i believe.

 

[Vette73]

I also say this and was whondering if anybody has bought the PC133 CAS2 and tested it yet, I was going to get my ram from them as it seems a very good deal that they have PC133 , 128mb, 7NS, at CAS2 for under $100. Is this to good to be true or is it a go?? Thanks

 

[Agnivarsh]

Thanks a lot for the expl. One more question, what does NS stand for? and also, does all my memory need to have the same cas number?

 

[RichieZ]

While I agree $99 is a good deal for 128MB PC133, wouldn't you rather spend an extra $31 to get quality ram that is know to run up to 150CAS2?

I am organizing a group buy for 4 sticks of Muskin Mosel Vitalic Rev 1.5 that they have on special for $499. Each stick normally sells for $146 + shipping. I'm going to sell them for $130 shipped. So far two ppl have expressed interest and we are looking for one more to complete the buy.

 

[krlwynn]

Warning to all of you considering buying from this company ...

I made one of the resellerratings comments. The wrong stick of ram was sent to me from these guys, which was later corrected. Then, they never reimbursed me for my shipping costs ($7) from sending the original wrong stick back to their store even after saying they would several times.

Now, the weird thing is that I would call them about the reimbursement and they would always say they were sorry and that my card was credited already. I then checked my bank to find out that was not the case. After the the third iteration of the above events, I simply gave up and ended up paying almost $20 in shipping (including the ship back) for a piece of memory!.

I'd shudder to think of doing a return with these guys ... ugh

 

[Techwhore]

Agnivarsh, my extent on the topic is not so great but from what i gather ns = nano seconds. That's the read time for you ram, lower is better. I know that you can have the same ns read time but different frequencies, like 8ns pc100 and 8ns pc133.

RichieZZZZ, you're absolutely right. You can get better quality ram rated at a higher speed for just a little more. However, pc150 at any cas doesn't do me, or a lot of people, any good, i'll never get that high so why buy it.

 

[RichieZ]

Why buy it?

#1 Cause Mushkin is a way more reputable company that this one.
#2 Muskin ram carries a lifetime warranty from a good company (although this is only to the original buyer, people can send them to me and i'll warranty them in the unlikely situation that it ever goes bad)
#3 Much higher resale value, who wants to pay a high price for used generic PC133? Mosel always sells pretty quickly and a decent price, heck just today 2 used sticks of Rev 1.5 sold for $140 shipped (this was b4 my deal)
#4 Even if you don't run 150, you will be able to run at a higher CAS2, I run my 550E@794 (144FSB). Cas 2 is about 5% faster at 133FSB, it only gets better as the FSB goes up
#5 Mosel Vitalic kicks ass!

Thanks to all the people who contacted me, but I've already got 2 of the 3 sold, and there are about 5 people in line after that!

 

[Nack]

Not bad. Of course, Googlegear.com had/has Samsung PC133 modules (I think 7.5ns) for $98 recently. Since it uses 7.5ns chips, it isn't rated for CAS2 operation, but knowing Samsung modules, it will probably work there (and higher) just fine. I think they still have them, but they may be $99 now.

Nack

 

[wyckedcool]

Question : How does Samsung pc133 memory compare to, say, Micron? Or other decent name brand's? Is it quality memory?

 

[Nack]

Generally speaking, so long as you buy some sort of name brand memory, it will work fine as long as you are not running it outside specs (overclocking). If you are going to push memory beyond what it is rated for, then quality and manufacturer begin to matter more.

I have always used Samsung SDRAM when possible. I have had good experiences overclocking with it. On the other hand, I have also had very good experiences overclocking Micron. A few years ago, I had a pair of 32MB Samsung original dimms with -G10 memory on them. They were rated for 66MHz CAS2 operation. They easily ran 100MHz CAS2. I gave those to a friend, because 64MB just wasn't enough memory. I now run a pair of generic 128MB dimms, with Micron -8E chips on them, rated for 100MHz CAS2 operation. They easily run 133. For what it is worth, I also got a bunch of PNY 100MHZ CAS2 rated 32MB modules with -8 Siemens chips for free after rebate that ran 133 just fine too. The overclockability is a function of not only the chips, but also the modules. Samsung modules are very good quality. I got lucky with my generic modules with Micron chips, but buying generic modules is a little risky if you are overclocking. PNY modules also appear to be well manufactured, and the ones that I got were overclockable. As for chips, I have had good luck with Micron, Samsung, Siemens, and LGS (Lucky Goldstar) chips. I have had bad luck with Hyundai, NEC and Toshiba chips. Of course, overclockability will vary from batch to batch with any brand.


Nack

 

[Techwhore]

if you were to push your ram, say i pushed my pc133 to cas2 at 133 when it's rated at cas3. What would be the likely outcome if it failed? Just not post? or would i have to see if it's stable? thanks

EDIT: I pushed my cas3 to cas2 at 133, loads find, runs sandra fine... increased my score from 449/529 to 461/558. That's pretty fast. What damage am i doing to my ram by increasing the cas?

 

[Liquidh2o]

thanks for posting the meanings of ras and cas, i've been curious about that myself... on another similar note, what is the Cl rating (i see it@ crucial.com on some ram i'm wanting to buy)? Is this good o/c friendly ram?


link to ram:

http://www.crucial.com/store/partspecs.asp?imodule=CT32M64S4D7E

 

[Bartman39]

This is really strange that this thread became a ram debate??? I thought it was a "Hot Deal" post??? Techwhore was just enlighting us to a potential good deal... Besides I noticed after viewing the site it had dropped to $94.95 and for PC133 Cas2 ram that is a damn good price... Premier does mess up like anyone else but for the price a small hassle here and there will happen, they are trying to keep cost down and provide an inexpensive product...(is`nt that what AMD is trying to do also) BTW when I bought my PC150 from Premier they by mistake sent me PC133 I emailed them and sent the memory back and then intern sent me my PC150 back via 2 day UPS "BUT" to my surpise the package contained not 1 but 2 PC150 128meg modules with the paperwork signed by a real person with an appoligy for the mix up... Uh thats customer service in my book.

 

[Techwhore]

they send you two in return? that's a hot deal in itself I'd get myself over to resellerratings and post if i were you. Let people know it's not a bad place.

 

[Vette73]

So anybody get the Cas2 PC133 7ns Ram yet???? Or anybody know how it tests?
Thanks