128GB Crucial M4 SATA 3 SSD: $29.99, 256GB, $49.99. (Recertified)

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SimMike2

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Both my orders shipped. The first one, for a 128 and 256 shipped the next day. The second one, a 256, took two or three days to ship. I think these were given new firmware because the original was buggy. So I think they will be fine, especially for the price.
 
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I cannot wait to get a SATA 3 SSD. My read speeds will double and I'll have enough room for Starcraft 2 on both the laptop and desktop SSDs.
 
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In your shipping confirmation, is the data populated on the UPS site or does it tell you to check in 48 hours?
 

SimMike2

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In your shipping confirmation, is the data populated on the UPS site or does it tell you to check in 48 hours?
My order that shipped Wednesday still says that. I don't think it is a big deal because this is a combination UPS/USPS delivery and the shipping number is not a normal UPS number. So it probably won't show anything until it is at your local PO ready to be delivered. My guess anyway. I have gotten items shipped this way from other companies and they sent me a normal UPS tracking number, which has a "z" in it. Instead I think this is a USPS tracking number and since USPS doesn't have it yet, you don't get any information.
 
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DesiPower

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This is what I got in my email -

Dear XXXXX,

Great news! Your Crucial memory order is packaged and ready to ship by Crucial UPS Mail Innovations. To check on the status of your shipment, click on the link below. You must reference your order number when checking on the status of your shipment.

Order number: NNNNNNNNNN

Your Crucial UPS Mail Innovations tracking number is NNNNNNNNN. Keep in mind that your tracking number will not work until the courier scans your package into their system. In most cases, this takes just one business day or less. If you receive an error message while trying to track your order, just try again later.

Crucial UPS Mail Innovations
http://www.ups-mi.net/packageID/PackageID.aspx?PID=NNNNNNNNN

Your package will be sent to:

Shipping details
Shipping Address:

<My ADDRESS>

Shipping method:
Crucial UPS Mail Innovations

Order date: 02/17/2015
Days are calculated on business days which are considered Monday through Friday and exclude federal holidays within the United States.

But when I click the link I do not get any updates from UPS site, it says

Tracking information for this piece is unavailable at this time. Tracking may take 24-48 hours after your mail piece has shipped. Please check back at a later time for additional information.

If tracking is unavailable after 3 days, please contact your shipper.

Today is the 3rd day... :'(
 

kmmatney

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Damn - was a little late on this one. Some of the earlier Crucial SSDs had a firmware issues, and would cause the SSD to eventually fail. The fix was pretty simple - unpower the SSD for a few minutes, then boot to DOS and upgrade the firmware. A friend of mine couldn't be bothered to do this, so he gave me his Crucial 128GB SSD after it went bad, and I just upgraded the firmware, and it's been running fine for 2+ years.
 

SimMike2

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Damn - was a little late on this one. Some of the earlier Crucial SSDs had a firmware issues, and would cause the SSD to eventually fail. The fix was pretty simple - unpower the SSD for a few minutes, then boot to DOS and upgrade the firmware. A friend of mine couldn't be bothered to do this, so he gave me his Crucial 128GB SSD after it went bad, and I just upgraded the firmware, and it's been running fine for 2+ years.
And this is what I think happened here. Or maybe people bungled the Firmware upgrade and sent it back.
 

DesiPower

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I using a 64gb M4 for almost 5 years now, and no issues at all. First it was my primary OS drive on main PC, then retired to HPTC and eventually to kids laptop... awesome
drives....
 

ecsaltz

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Got confirmation order email several days ago, then received the SSDs (x3). Had originally hoped to get the 512GB models, but they sold out fast. Note: the write speeds on all these SSDs are slow as molasses compared to currents SSDs, but I knew that going into the deal.
 

Elixer

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The only thing you can refurbish in an SSD is the outer shell or firmware, and most likely on this it was the firmware as well.

That isn't correct.
If the only thing wrong was the outer shell, they can spend the 75 cents and stick on a new one, and sell it as new.

They do reuse NAND, and everything else, which is why they have such a low warranty period compared to new.
 

ahenkel

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My 256gb drive arrived today, very plain jane presentation. No label or sticker on top just a label on the bottom detail serial and drive specifications.
 

BenJeremy

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That isn't correct.
If the only thing wrong was the outer shell, they can spend the 75 cents and stick on a new one, and sell it as new.

They do reuse NAND, and everything else, which is why they have such a low warranty period compared to new.

They don't do that.

Most refurbs are units that were part of a batch that didn't pass QA. When QA samples bin out, they take the lot and set them aside, for retesting. If they pass, they get the refurb treatment. In all likelihood, these units will be every bit as reliable as units considered "new"

Some will be cosmetic issues. This might be scratches, might be a packaging issue... again, because they don't go straight from the assembly line to the warehouse, they are refurbs.

Finally, you have more problematic units. DOA returns, warranty returns, or binned devices that get resurrected one way or another. These are the refurbs you really don't want, and the lowest quality.

Do they disassemble these units and re-use the chips on systems that still can't be revived?... no, they do not. It would cost more to de-solder the components than to simply replace it with a new unit. These are not socket-mounted chips - they are surface mounted chips, wave-soldered into place. Even with relatively low hazardous materials used in the solder process, it still creates a messy situation. The work to do this is also highly-specialized and unique for every system. That is not how factories are built. Also, have you ever seen the way new chips are supplied to a factory? They come in giant rolls... mounted to tape to be fed into machines. You simply can't remove NAND chips from a circuit board and drop them back into production.

Often times, much of the QA isn't even done on the site of the manufacture, but at another point in the delivery of the product. I've worked with a company that manufactured in China, and shipped to Mexico and Indiana before the product hit the second wave of QA at distribution centers.

Most importantly, "spending 75 cents for a new shell and labeling as new" is most certainly not done, for several big reasons. Liability is the biggest one, but the costs mentioned above is another. More importantly, anybody trying to pass off a product as new that didn't go straight from manufacture to delivery is simply risking too much. Not saying it doesn't happen in sloppier-run factories out of China (thanks to corrupt managers), but most decent companies won't do business with them any more when that happens, and reputation means pretty much the business-death of that contractor.
 
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FrankSchwab

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I agree with Ben Jeremy, for the most part.

We have products that are built in the 10's of millions per year. I have been called in to help with failure analysis on specimens where we determined that a SPI Flash (cost: about $0.13 in quantity) had been desoldered from a failed product by the manufacturing house, and soldered onto a new product. It's hard to imagine the economics that make that worthwhile, but I've seen it.

In these kinds of quantities, the companies building the parts are competing based on the ability to save portions of a penny on each part. Labor in China is pretty darned cheap. I imagine that the manufacturing company collected a bin of parts that test bad at final test, then assembly-lined the rework process - put the bin next to the guy with the desoldering station and let him desolder hundreds of parts an hour; put the bin of removed SPI Flash parts next to another worker with some solder paste and a hot air pencil and let him solder hundreds an hour onto fresh boards assembled w/o a SPI Flash. Send the boards back through the test station. With fall-out and labor costs, perhaps they save half the cost of the SPI Flash by reusing them this way - that's free money.

I can't imagine anyone taking returns from the field and doing this, however.
 

SimMike2

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Got both my orders in the mail, but the tracking numbers were useless. Even after it was delivered.

Great deal!
 

DesiPower

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Finally received mine yesterday, they took the label out from top, just a bare drive with a small specs sticker on one side. But it works!!

Looks like they are sold out!

They were sold out the next day, some models were sold out within hours
 
T

Tim

Hi. Welcome to last week.

Just got my shipping confirmation, should have mine on Monday.

The maybe, just maybe, somebody should update the thread title to "Dead" so people stop clicking just to be disappointed. (Like me two days ago)
 

Sonikku

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Dang. Always miss out on these deals. Still kicking around Ye Olde 500gb hard drive. Need a Solid Sate for mah Games!! Old Republic loads at the speed of molasses! And maybe my OS.
 

DesiPower

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Dang. Always miss out on these deals. Still kicking around Ye Olde 500gb hard drive. Need a Solid Sate for mah Games!! Old Republic loads at the speed of molasses! And maybe my OS.

This is a 5 year old SSD, wont do you much good for today's needs, its good for your secondary PCs and LTs. I wont put these in my main gaming PC.
 

SimMike2

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This is a 5 year old SSD, wont do you much good for today's needs, its good for your secondary PCs and LTs. I wont put these in my main gaming PC.
Windows performance gave this drive a 7.6. Don't believe the snobs, these are plenty fast for most people, especially compared to any regular hard drive on the market. Reminds me of the SCSI snobs back in the day who relentlessly trashed IDE drives even after they got fast.
 
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