13 dead in Barcelona as van drives into crowd - hostage situation ensues

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UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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Orange turd of a leader only took a few hours to condemn this attack and tweet an inaccurate story attributed to Pershing.

Fucking pathetic.
For this who missed it, Dear Leader suggested that in 1898, Pershing "solved" the Islamic terror problem on a Philippine island by rounding up 50 Muslim POWs in a firing line, dipping bullets in pig's blood, and summarily executing 49 of 50. The lone survivor was told to "tell everyone what happened here", preventing future guerrilla attacks for 25 years.

Great story, except it never happened. Oh and if we did that today, it's a war crime.
 

purbeast0

No Lifer
Sep 13, 2001
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Looking at photo purbeast posted, it seems like the street would be closed to vehicle traffic? I'm assuming they would've beefed up security in recent months at entry/exit points...How did the van get through??
When I was there, the streets were not closed. That was in the middle of the 2 1 lane 1 way streets on the sides (I believe they were 1 way). But people cross streets without even looking. The cars there are going slow down those streets too just due to the people traffic.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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Also worth mentioning this thing going on halfway around the world is exactly what the degens needed to take the heat off their buddies in charlottesville. Just wait for dear leader to harp on about in lieu of terrorists on his side.

For this who missed it, Dear Leader suggested that in 1898, Pershing "solved" the Islamic terror problem on a Philippine island by rounding up 50 Muslim POWs in a firing line, dipping bullets in pig's blood, and summarily executing 49 of 50. The lone survivor was told to "tell everyone what happened here", preventing future guerrilla attacks for 25 years.

Great story, except it never happened. Oh and if we did that today, it's a war crime.

Hahahahahaha, gotta wait for all the facts to come in before rendering undue judgment.
 

Atreus21

Lifer
Aug 21, 2007
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You started a thread about an attack that cost the lives of thirteen people that you care fuck-all about, and then got fake offended when someone made an off color joke.

I don't think it's too much to ask to respect the victims a bit until their wounds have time to coagulate. It's not very funny, you see.
 

Atreus21

Lifer
Aug 21, 2007
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Man that stupid alt-right guy was a pretty pathetic terrorist. Some ISIS guy just did the exact same attack and out scored him 13 - 1.


Very sad attack. I'm 99% sure it's ISIS... this is sort of their MO. Maximum civilian casualties and destruction in a tourist area. Say what you like about al-Qaeda, they at least generally pick military or infrastructure targets.... still horrible tho.

I'm pretty sure the Charlottesville guy didn't have much in the way of direct hits. I think he ran into another vehicle.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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I don't think it's too much to ask to respect the victims a bit until their wounds have time to coagulate. It's not very funny, you see.

I think white-isis should hear out their leader and wait at least 2 days before rushing to any judgment.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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I have a question, since this was the EXACT SAME ACT as Charlottesville, what makes this terrorism and UVA not? Since it is the exact same act it must be the number of people killed. So far there are 13 so what number from 2 to 13 did we cross the terrorism threshold??

The method of inflicting harm was the same (i.e. ramming people with a vehicle), but I fail to see how these are the same thing. Now, I haven't read a ton about what happened, but from what I've heard, the ramming in Charlottesville was when a person on one side of the protest attacked a person on the other side. Now, Barcelona appears to be someone attacking completely unsuspecting citizens. I've looked at the former as an extreme escalation of tensions at a protest and the latter as more of an act of terrorism.

Now, the main difference between terrorism and simply trying to commit mass vehicular manslaughter is the point of the action. If a driver just snapped and decided to try to kill people with their car, that isn't terrorism regardless of the person's nationality or religious leanings. If the person did it to inflict fear upon people for religious or political reasons, that's terrorism. Bombing an abortion clinic due to being pro-life is another example of terrorism. Albeit, that does make it hard to judge Charlottesville, because the vehicle's driver had political motives too. The biggest difference is that there was already some tension between the two where the other was unsuspecting.
 

agent00f

Lifer
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The method of inflicting harm was the same (i.e. ramming people with a vehicle), but I fail to see how these are the same thing. Now, I haven't read a ton about what happened, but from what I've heard, the ramming in Charlottesville was when a person on one side of the protest attacked a person on the other side. Now, Barcelona appears to be someone attacking completely unsuspecting citizens. I've looked at the former as an extreme escalation of tensions at a protest and the latter as more of an act of terrorism.

Now, the main difference between terrorism and simply trying to commit mass vehicular manslaughter is the point of the action. If a driver just snapped and decided to try to kill people with their car, that isn't terrorism regardless of the person's nationality or religious leanings. If the person did it to inflict fear upon people for religious or political reasons, that's terrorism. Bombing an abortion clinic due to being pro-life is another example of terrorism. Albeit, that does make it hard to judge Charlottesville, because the vehicle's driver had political motives too. The biggest difference is that there was already some tension between the two where the other was unsuspecting.

Yeah, the alt-left were really to blame for nazis trying to kill not-nazis.
 

Aikouka

Lifer
Nov 27, 2001
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Yeah, the alt-left were really to blame for nazis trying to kill not-nazis.

Why is it that every post that I see of yours is either making fun of someone, creating some ridiculous strawman point, or both? All I can say is to stop trying to spin my post to fit your narrative. Oh, and I don't know why I even have to say this, but driving a car into someone is wrong in both situations, and this discussion seems to be on the semantics of "terrorism" at this point.
 

agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
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Why is it that every post that I see of yours is either making fun of someone, creating some ridiculous strawman point, or both? All I can say is to stop trying to spin my post to fit your narrative. Oh, and I don't know why I even have to say this, but driving a car into someone is wrong in both situations, and this discussion seems to be on the semantics of "terrorism" at this point.

Totally hear you, fake news was trying to spin dear leader all week.
 
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0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
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I'm curious if you are a carbon-based life form or one that is purely shit-based?

This is the consequence of your "diversity" without any consideration for facts and reality or even history.
Your dream is now the nightmare of feminists becoming islamic apologists, the dream of death.
 

Atreus21

Lifer
Aug 21, 2007
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Why do you have the South Park Muhammad as your avatar?

Don't, under any circumstances, take the Lord's name in vain. If you do we're going to have trouble. If you know what's good for you, you'll do what I tell you.

Now, what do you feel like saying?
 

agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
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This is the consequence of your "diversity" without any consideration for facts and reality or even history.
Your dream is now the nightmare of feminists becoming islamic apologists, the dream of death.
Don't, under any circumstances, take the Lord's name in vain. If you do we're going to have trouble. If you know what's good for you, you'll do what I tell you.

Now, what word do you feel like saying?
You're right, he shouldn't have condemned this terrorist attack.


Pretty easy to see why the birther magnate felt compelled to keep these votes on lockdown.
 

FIVR

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Jun 1, 2016
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We should bomb the s*** out of ISIS.


They are currently occupy the most bombed 25,000 or so sq km of territory on earth. In fact, they are bombed using weapons that are used nowhere else. The US is currently deploying artillery (3x 7-man M777 Howitzer units) in groups of 3-5 around areas where they have allied troops deployed (usually SDF or YPG, sometimes Turkish). They fire 3 x air burst WP rounds into Raqqa probably once every few days. Burns holes the size of softballs in human flesh and can not be extinguished by water and in fact water makes it burn faster (IIRC). It's been banned by the UN but the US just DGAF.

There is ample evidence of dead/dying ISIS and bombed/exploded/burned ISIS members and "ISIS civilians" (aka Syrians and Iraqis). So, I guess now that you are getting exactly what you asked for, what should happen now? Should we escalate to chemical warfare? Not sure what else can be done w/o 'boots on the ground' tbh.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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Why do you have the South Park Muhammad as your avatar?
You really don't know? It's part of a coordinated and wide-spread act of defiance against Islamic murders of cartoonists who have depicted Mohammed.
 
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agent00f

Lifer
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You really don't know? It's part of a coordinated and wide-spread an act of defiance against Islamic murders of cartoonists who have depicted Mohammed.
I wouldn't say coordinated. Nobody asked me to do that.

Funny when these patriots are so brave against the underclass in america but can't muster any of the same toughness against their white nationalist buddies.
 
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