I thought this topic was about the miners who were killed in that tragedy in West Virginia?Originally posted by: raildogg
What is exactly wrong with a member being new? Weren't you new some time ago? Just because you outnumber him in posts and have been here longer doesn't mean your points are more valid and his are less.Originally posted by: conjur
Says someone who just joined today. WYWBYWB?Originally posted by: newbert
I sure were those miners alive you'd be first in line to call them ignorant rednecks. Oh the hypocrisy!
I predict your time here will be short, Freeper.
He makes an interesting point considering many people here look at America based on blue states vs red states. And those living in red states are considered red necks and racists.
Yep, you so-called liberals are really tolerant ...
I wish all the best to the families of those miners. Everyone should pray for them.
Originally posted by: AragornTK
Wow, it's amazing that the one guy was able to survive.
I think even though 12 men died, we have to realize it could have been alot worse, I heard on the radio there was about 600 workers in there when the explosion happened. I'm not trying to brush away the deaths of those men, but 12/600 is less than 1% fatality. Not too bad... it could have been alot worse.
RIP for those miners who died down there
Where's zendari and his "bust all unions" talking points?The ranks of miners have thinned considerably as technology has improved.
Less than 4 percent of Upshur County's workforce is now actively engaged in mining, according to the Census Bureau.
In his interviews with coal families, Dr. Michrina also found that while confident of their husbands' experience and maturity in working safely in a mine, many women actively discouraged their sons from joining up, fearing they might not be as safety conscious.
"If it'd been a union mine this never would have happened," said Earl Casto, a former miner whose cousin, Junior Hamner, died in the accident. "This should make all coal miners working open their eyes." Mr. Casto said that his cousin complained frequently about the safety violations that occurred.
Though angry, Casto and his wife, Betty, were hesitant to point fingers Wednesday morning until they knew more. Instead, they headed to the Sago Baptist Church to offer a quiet prayer for all the miners and their families.
"This is going to be a sad community for a very long time," said Betty. "People will never forget this."
Originally posted by: Aimster
This is P&N
everything is Bush's fault
I hate Bush by the way. Especially his smirk.
Originally posted by: BarneyFife
Originally posted by: AragornTK
Wow, it's amazing that the one guy was able to survive.
I think even though 12 men died, we have to realize it could have been alot worse, I heard on the radio there was about 600 workers in there when the explosion happened. I'm not trying to brush away the deaths of those men, but 12/600 is less than 1% fatality. Not too bad... it could have been alot worse.
RIP for those miners who died down there
12/600 is 2% I think thats pretty bad when 2% of your workforce dies at once.
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Yes, I blame Republicans once again.
Originally posted by: conjur
I thought this topic was about the miners who were killed in that tragedy in West Virginia?
blah, blah, blah, I'll take my potshots but ask that you not respond to my DailyKos parroting, blah, blah, blah
Now, can we back to the topic?
This tragedy has nothing to do with the Bush Administration. Poor corporate leadership existed prior to the Bush Administration, and it will continue long after Bush is gone.As for the Freeper, you can't tell me you don't see that they come in waves whenever something bad happens to this admin or somehow want to spin positive news for the corporate-whores.
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Just couldn't wait to spin this tragedy for political purposes.Yes, I blame Republicans once again. The Mine Company fully deployed Republican style anti-worker conditions as it is anti-union. What happened is tragic but sadly fully expected in the new Republican America.
Mining is dangerous work, even under the more protective and preventative conditions of modern technology...look at mining conditions the world over, and the problems faced by unionized miners in numerous countries...unionized mines, stringent inspection standards and improved working conditions are sometimes not enough to prevent a tragedy.
Why don't we wait for an investigation before taking potshots...if the cause of the tragedy was negligence on the part of the mining company leadership, then those leaders should and hopefully will face the criminal charges for the "anti-worker" conditions that led to this accident.
Perhaps because many of these "office nerds" worked hard in school such as to avoid the career fate of blue collar drudgery suffered by their parents and grandparents.The risk is bult into thier labor price - which is why I just laugh at these office nerds who begrudge thier high pay and talk of unions as da devil
Who said this is the fault of the Bush administration? Oh, I know. No one!Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
This tragedy has nothing to do with the Bush Administration. Poor corporate leadership existed prior to the Bush Administration, and it will continue long after Bush is gone.As for the Freeper, you can't tell me you don't see that they come in waves whenever something bad happens to this admin or somehow want to spin positive news for the corporate-whores.
This isn't the first mine accident to occur in America...whose fault was it in cases where accidents occurred in unionized mines that complied with federal regulations?
The MSHA has a history of failing to provide the oversight and inspections to keep mines safe...this problem predates the Bush Administration.
Mining Disasters Exhibition
Depends on the industry...I can speak of any number of scenarios where unions have actually become a hinderance to blue collar workers.unless you're in a union then they're not big enough.
Actually several have:Who said this is the fault of the Bush administration? Oh, I know. No one!
So when you said THIS administration, you were actually referring to another Administration.As for the Freeper, you can't tell me you don't see that they come in waves whenever something bad happens to this admin or somehow want to spin positive news for the corporate-whores.
more blood on warmonger Bush's hands
Which was certainly directed at the current Administration, as Bush is a member of the Republican Party.Yes, I blame Republicans once again. The Mine Company fully deployed Republican style anti-worker conditions as it is anti-union. What happened is tragic but sadly fully expected in the new Republican America.
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Not every white collar worker was born with a silver spoon in his mouth...many white collar workers, including myself, come from very humble beginnings...some blue collar workers are stuck in those jobs because that is what their ambitions entitled them to...others, because that is what society restricted them to, for any number of reasons.
I have no problem with blue collar work...have handled enough blue collar jobs in my life to appreciate what an "honest day's work" consists of.
Unions served a purpose once...now they are just another part of the bloated
bureaucracy.
Originally posted by: bctbct
Originally posted by: Starbuck1975
Not every white collar worker was born with a silver spoon in his mouth...many white collar workers, including myself, come from very humble beginnings...some blue collar workers are stuck in those jobs because that is what their ambitions entitled them to...others, because that is what society restricted them to, for any number of reasons.
I have no problem with blue collar work...have handled enough blue collar jobs in my life to appreciate what an "honest day's work" consists of.
Unions served a purpose once...now they are just another part of the bloated
bureaucracy.
Sounds like you listened to Rush today...
When you were slaving away in college these blue collars workers were paying taxes to provide you affordable education.