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BoomerD

No Lifer
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Looking at the hardware list, i'd go with the XFX 750 PSU instead of the Earthwatts 650, I personally don't like Gskill RAM, (had one problem with them a few years ago, got nowhere with their support) so I'd go with a different brand, but definitely 1333 speed, I also don't like PNY video products...again, one bad experience left me with a bad taste. I haven't been impressed with Antec's cases lately. I MUCH prefer the CoolerMaster HAF cases. I just built a new PC with the HAF 932...great build quality, more room than I'll ever need, excellent air flow.
 

mnewsham

Lifer
Oct 2, 2010
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Looking at the hardware list, i'd go with the XFX 750 PSU instead of the Earthwatts 650, I personally don't like Gskill RAM, (had one problem with them a few years ago, got nowhere with their support) so I'd go with a different brand, but definitely 1333 speed, I also don't like PNY video products...again, one bad experience left me with a bad taste. I haven't been impressed with Antec's cases lately. I MUCH prefer the CoolerMaster HAF cases. I just built a new PC with the HAF 932...great build quality, more room than I'll ever need, excellent air flow.

I agree on PNY video cards, I don't like em, however my last 3 builds went g-skill and it worked flawlessly, HAF alll day.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
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My ONLY experience with PNY's video cards is one 6800GT that, no matter what, refused to register...thus no lifetime warranty. I emailed support with pictures of the card, showing all the numbers on the card, pics of the box, pics of the receipt...yet when the card died at about 2 years, they refused to honor the warranty. Tech support kept telling me to "try again, that's the right S/N"...yet the system refused to accept it.
When the card died, all I got was, "None of that matters. If you didn't register the card, no warranty."

I'll never buy PNY again.
 

maniacalpha1-1

Diamond Member
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This is probably an irrelevant comment since the GTX 570 you are getting is powerful. But, note that the motherboard you are getting will allow you to SLI, but the Antec 650 PSU only has 2 PCI-E express power connectors. Even 1 GTX 460 requires both, so to SLI 2 GTX 460s you would have to have 4. On the AMD side, anything above a HD 6850 requires 2 PCI-E as well.

Now, I know there are adapters that take other power connectors from your PSU and convert them into 6 pin PCI-E, but is that safe? I don't know, I'd make sure someone more specifically versed in this than me answers that for you. Otherwise you may consider trying to move up to a 750 watt or higher PSU with 4 PCI-E power connectors.

Of course, if you've decided to forego SLI entirely, none of this matters.
 

csjesse

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Jan 5, 2011
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Alright... finally, since I'm not getting an H70 cooling or anything, should I fill up the case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119197) - HAF 922 fan slots? i.e. additional 200mm on the side?



This is probably an irrelevant comment since the GTX 570 you are getting is powerful. But, note that the motherboard you are getting will allow you to SLI, but the Antec 650 PSU only has 2 PCI-E express power connectors. Even 1 GTX 460 requires both, so to SLI 2 GTX 460s you would have to have 4. On the AMD side, anything above a HD 6850 requires 2 PCI-E as well.

Now, I know there are adapters that take other power connectors from your PSU and convert them into 6 pin PCI-E, but is that safe? I don't know, I'd make sure someone more specifically versed in this than me answers that for you. Otherwise you may consider trying to move up to a 750 watt or higher PSU with 4 PCI-E power connectors.

Of course, if you've decided to forego SLI entirely, none of this matters.

i plan on using just one GTX 570. should I change to an XFX 750? mfenn?
 
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Davidh373

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Alright... finally, since I'm not getting an H70 cooling or anything, should I fill up the case (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119197) - HAF 922 fan slots? i.e. additional 200mm on the side?

you won't "need" to. I would only recommend a lot of cooling like that for someone with 3-4 way SLI with 480s or 580s. My Antec 300 blows out cool air whenever it's on, be it gaming or just idling.
 

mfenn

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This is probably an irrelevant comment since the GTX 570 you are getting is powerful. But, note that the motherboard you are getting will allow you to SLI, but the Antec 650 PSU only has 2 PCI-E express power connectors. Even 1 GTX 460 requires both, so to SLI 2 GTX 460s you would have to have 4. On the AMD side, anything above a HD 6850 requires 2 PCI-E as well.

Now, I know there are adapters that take other power connectors from your PSU and convert them into 6 pin PCI-E, but is that safe? I don't know, I'd make sure someone more specifically versed in this than me answers that for you. Otherwise you may consider trying to move up to a 750 watt or higher PSU with 4 PCI-E power connectors.

Of course, if you've decided to forego SLI entirely, none of this matters.

For something mid-range like a GTX 460 or 6850, using the adapters is perfectly fine.
 

csjesse

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Jan 5, 2011
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Was thrown this recommendation to my build...

GTX570 is a solid card, comparable with newer 6950, but with the latter at only $300....

One tidbit of possible interest to tinkerers/enthusiasts is that many reflash their 6950 to 6970 BIOS successfully, where it now rivals the $550 GTX580.... (multiple samples of multiple models reflashed, zero failures in a 10-20 unit test sampling....)


is that valid? flashed 6950 rivals a gtx580? lol.. if so, I'd probably switch..
 

mnewsham

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Oct 2, 2010
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Flashed 6950's beat a 570 but i dont think a 580, it might get within 10% tho.
 

mnewsham

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It's up to you, i would for saving 50 bucks but they are almost equal, the 6970's and 570's trade blows in most benches
 

darksidesteve

Junior Member
Jan 10, 2011
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I also run apps like 3D Studio Max and Adobe CS/ Premiere.

Ditch the idea of an ATI card. First off, flashing a new 6950 will void any warranty.
You can get an EVGA or BFG GTX 470 which is a great card for the price, plus has a lifetime warranty, and your 3D apps will eat up the CUDA processing NVidia cards have. Also the Adobe apps are now taking advantage of CUDA as well. Plus you're getting PhysX & DX11. 2x of those will cost less than 1 GTX 580 and out perform it as well. On a good day you can find them for under $250 each.

As for the Antec 650, actually you can run SLI with that PSU no problem. The PSU itself only has 2x PCI-E connectors, you can get a couple of molex to PCI-E power adapters. Antec's 650 is well within wattage specs for something like dual GTX 460's or 470's.

There's also something out there called a power booster that gives an extra 450W's of power on two additional PCI-E rails only. It's a separate device that can be added to any power supply or configuration. Newegg has them for about $25.

Whatever video card you go with, get EVGA or BFG. Both companies are excellent to work with, and both offer lifetime warranties on most products. PNY is horrible to deal with for support/repair, and just try getting a hold of a real person at XFX. I don't even think they have a phone number!!!!
 

csjesse

Junior Member
Jan 5, 2011
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I also run apps like 3D Studio Max and Adobe CS/ Premiere.

Ditch the idea of an ATI card. First off, flashing a new 6950 will void any warranty.
You can get an EVGA or BFG GTX 470 which is a great card for the price, plus has a lifetime warranty, and your 3D apps will eat up the CUDA processing NVidia cards have. Also the Adobe apps are now taking advantage of CUDA as well. Plus you're getting PhysX & DX11. 2x of those will cost less than 1 GTX 580 and out perform it as well. On a good day you can find them for under $250 each.

As for the Antec 650, actually you can run SLI with that PSU no problem. The PSU itself only has 2x PCI-E connectors, you can get a couple of molex to PCI-E power adapters. Antec's 650 is well within wattage specs for something like dual GTX 460's or 470's.

There's also something out there called a power booster that gives an extra 450W's of power on two additional PCI-E rails only. It's a separate device that can be added to any power supply or configuration. Newegg has them for about $25.

Whatever video card you go with, get EVGA or BFG. Both companies are excellent to work with, and both offer lifetime warranties on most products. PNY is horrible to deal with for support/repair, and just try getting a hold of a real person at XFX. I don't even think they have a phone number!!!!

Should have gotten two 470s when they were 200 a piece a few weeks ago...guess I'll go with 1 570 unless that deal returns soon.
 

Davidh373

Platinum Member
Jun 20, 2009
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I also run apps like 3D Studio Max and Adobe CS/ Premiere.

Ditch the idea of an ATI card. First off, flashing a new 6950 will void any warranty.
You can get an EVGA or BFG GTX 470 which is a great card for the price, plus has a lifetime warranty, and your 3D apps will eat up the CUDA processing NVidia cards have. Also the Adobe apps are now taking advantage of CUDA as well. Plus you're getting PhysX & DX11. 2x of those will cost less than 1 GTX 580 and out perform it as well. On a good day you can find them for under $250 each.

As for the Antec 650, actually you can run SLI with that PSU no problem. The PSU itself only has 2x PCI-E connectors, you can get a couple of molex to PCI-E power adapters. Antec's 650 is well within wattage specs for something like dual GTX 460's or 470's.

There's also something out there called a power booster that gives an extra 450W's of power on two additional PCI-E rails only. It's a separate device that can be added to any power supply or configuration. Newegg has them for about $25.

Whatever video card you go with, get EVGA or BFG. Both companies are excellent to work with, and both offer lifetime warranties on most products. PNY is horrible to deal with for support/repair, and just try getting a hold of a real person at XFX. I don't even think they have a phone number!!!!

This is all very true, except as far as I know BFG doesn't exist anymore...
 

darksidesteve

Junior Member
Jan 10, 2011
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It's fine IMHO. At work, we only buy PNY Quadros and they've always been good.

Of course the Quatro's are good, because PNY is the exclusive manufacturer for NVidia for those cards. The rest of PNY's line up is horrible. It's mostly their poor customer service, but their cards tend to come in DOA or die in a much shorter time than they should.

You're really going with Samsung HD's????
 

darksidesteve

Junior Member
Jan 10, 2011
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as far as I know BFG doesn't exist anymore...[/QUOTE]

I did not know that. Interesting! I'd still choose EVGA. You get what you pay for.
 

csjesse

Junior Member
Jan 5, 2011
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It's fine IMHO. At work, we only buy PNY Quadros and they've always been good.

Of course the Quatro's are good, because PNY is the exclusive manufacturer for NVidia for those cards. The rest of PNY's line up is horrible. It's mostly their poor customer service, but their cards tend to come in DOA or die in a much shorter time than they should.

You're really going with Samsung HD's????

This is my first build :| what would you recommend instead?
 
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