14 facts about the Obama presidency

Matt1970

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"The $1.4 trillion federal budget deficit that Obama inherited in 2009 was in a large part due to the high rate of unemployment. When millions of people were put out of work in 2008 and 2009, it resulted in far less income taxes and less economic activity to generate federal revenue."

Oh ya, revenue was down $419 Billion in 2009 but just ignore that $535 Billion increase in spending.
 

Jhhnn

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"The $1.4 trillion federal budget deficit that Obama inherited in 2009 was in a large part due to the high rate of unemployment. When millions of people were put out of work in 2008 and 2009, it resulted in far less income taxes and less economic activity to generate federal revenue."

Oh ya, revenue was down $419 Billion in 2009 but just ignore that $535 Billion increase in spending.

Moronic partisan twit. Spending has increased the least under Obama of any president since Eisenhower.

Don't let facts interfere with the formulation of your opinions, such as they are.
 

fskimospy

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"The $1.4 trillion federal budget deficit that Obama inherited in 2009 was in a large part due to the high rate of unemployment. When millions of people were put out of work in 2008 and 2009, it resulted in far less income taxes and less economic activity to generate federal revenue."

Oh ya, revenue was down $419 Billion in 2009 but just ignore that $535 Billion increase in spending.

What amount of that was due to policies Obama implemented?

Economics and history show we should have increased spending far more, but people in 2009 made some bad decisions, Obama included. He just didn't know how much more spending economics said was a good idea.
 

Jhhnn

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Sooooo. Wheres the real birth certificate? Huh? Huh? Huh?

Under lock & key in care of the Mullahs of... Benghazi! With guns from... Fast & Furious! All part of the evil IRS plot to persecute Uber Wealthy Repub donors & bring on Sharia Law!
 

Double Trouble

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What's interesting is how many Americans refuse to give him credit for creating the strongest economy in the world.

A year ago, the national debt was 17.088 trillion. Today it's only 17.937 trillion. That means the YoY deficit is only 0.849 trillion. I think that's pretty good. That's only about 5% of GDP.

Kinda depressing

As a nation we owe $18 trillion dollars. I can't even begin to fathom how much money that actually is.
 

cubby1223

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Kinda depressing

As a nation we owe $18 trillion dollars. I can't even begin to fathom how much money that actually is.

Think of it in the opposite terms... people out there have willingly credited the country $18 trillion dollars.

A great example was the formation of MCI to rival AT&T, their strategy to building their company was to go so far into debt their creditors had no choice but to continue funding the business until it became a success (unfortunately years later Worldcom happened, but that's an entirely separate discussion).

Debt is stability. It means the world has placed $18 trillion of collateral into the fate of this country to have a strong future. And we can say that because we are the biggest
 

shabby

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What's interesting is how many Americans refuse to give him credit for creating the strongest economy in the world.

A year ago, the national debt was 17.088 trillion. Today it's only 17.937 trillion. That means the YoY deficit is only 0.849 trillion. I think that's pretty good. That's only about 5% of GDP.

Every american should run their household like that and see how it turns out, i mean if the president does it why can't anyone else?
 

rudder

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The sad thing about the article is that people like the OP don't even realize the amount of bovine scatology located within that list. I guess liberals have successfully dumbed down the American educational system.

No need to debunk all the points... I.e., the article leaves out the fact about record low labor participation rates or how the Obama administration changed the way deportations are counted to give the illusion that "Obama has deported more illegals than any other president. One cannot argue with a person who suffers from LBD.
 

Matt1970

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Moronic partisan twit. Spending has increased the least under Obama of any president since Eisenhower.

Don't let facts interfere with the formulation of your opinions, such as they are.

Facts will seem moronic to you won't they? 2009 Was a one time emergency budget, not the status quo to measure success by.
 

Matt1970

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What's interesting is how many Americans refuse to give him credit for creating the strongest economy in the world.

A year ago, the national debt was 17.088 trillion. Today it's only 17.937 trillion. That means the YoY deficit is only 0.849 trillion. I think that's pretty good. That's only about 5% of GDP.

Never mind the fact that debt was $10 Trillion 6 years ago and less than 70% of GDP, it's now $17 Trillion and over 100% over GDP.
 

Spungo

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Debt is stability. It means the world has placed $18 trillion of collateral into the fate of this country to have a strong future. And we can say that because we are the biggest
As Obama correctly pointed out in the past, the national debt is a serious threat to national security.

One of the ways Clinton balanced the budget was by putting the entire country on an adjustable rate mortgage. Rather than financing the government with 30 year bonds, the average maturity on government debt is now under 5 years. That means the federal budget is strongly influenced by interest rate fluctuations. The government can't balance the budget when interest rates are close to zero, so guess what would happen if China decided to dump a trillion dollars worth of US debt on the market at one time. Interest rates would go through the roof and the government would be bankrupt almost immediately. Doing so would cost China a trillion dollars, but nobody said war was cheap.
 

BUnit1701

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Also keep with the illusion that Obama 'inherited' the TARP deficit. What was Sen. Obama's vote when it came through the Senate?
 

Jhhnn

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Facts will seem moronic to you won't they? 2009 Was a one time emergency budget, not the status quo to measure success by.

Argue with the facts in the article.

The record speaks for itself- Repubs love debt, except when Dems are in the oval office. then it's the Devil.

Reagan/GHWB quadruped the debt. GWB doubled it again. Wake me when Obama does something similar.
 

Jhhnn

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As Obama correctly pointed out in the past, the national debt is a serious threat to national security.

One of the ways Clinton balanced the budget was by putting the entire country on an adjustable rate mortgage. Rather than financing the government with 30 year bonds, the average maturity on government debt is now under 5 years. That means the federal budget is strongly influenced by interest rate fluctuations. The government can't balance the budget when interest rates are close to zero, so guess what would happen if China decided to dump a trillion dollars worth of US debt on the market at one time. Interest rates would go through the roof and the government would be bankrupt almost immediately. Doing so would cost China a trillion dollars, but nobody said war was cheap.

Sooo lame. Dollars and Treasuries are basically interchangeable at the level of high finance. If people who buy Chinese held treasuries want to lend money, they'll borrow against those treasuries from the banks who conveniently have the liquidity furnished by the FRB. The FRB will also buy whatever Treasuries necessary to furnish the govt with the liquidity it needs, too.

US govt bonds are the safest investment in existence, which is why the interest rate is so low.
 

sandorski

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