1440p IPS and Displayport Only - Interest?

jackstar7

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Without citing the specific maker, one of the companies is trying to determine the interest level of folks who might pick up a 1440p monitor if it was DP only.

My interest is high and I want to believe it could also lead to DP-only OC-able 1440p for 120Hz+ without the DVI limitations.

The prospect of Eyefinity/Surround with ease of using Displayport is a major draw for me (assuming GPU power could get to that point), as is just the simplicity of adding them for extended desktop.

Anyone here interested so I can take that info back to that maker and keep bugging them to invest in bringing this product to market?

Thanks for reading.
 

jackstar7

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I wouldn't mind it, provided there are no issues with DP.

My experience has been the only issue with DP is that some places make and sell cables that are not compliant with the actual VESA standards which wind up causing issues.

I'm trying to convince this maker to get/sell/provide compliant cables and help people move away from DVI and its bandwidth limitations and pins and everything I don't like about it.
 

KeithP

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DP only would be fine with me and if it was 120Hz and 1440p I would definitely be interested. However, I would need at least (2) DP connectors.

-KeithP
 

darckhart

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yes i would be interested. in more than one. if 120+ Hz, and yes, 2x DP connectors would be nicer.
 

nickbits

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So basically, an Apple Cinema display? I think those do pretty well.

Personally I have no interest now as I just bought a 1440p display. I didn't care at the time if the monitor was DP only or not. However I have since learned that my video card doesn't follow DP spec and doesn't work with some DP monitors (e.g. ACD) so I probably wouldn't get one for a PC.
 
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KingFatty

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YES. I'm very close to buying either from Microcenter (to get the DP) or saving a few bucks and going ebay for dual-link DVI.

But tell us, would your maker provide these displayport-only displays at a lower price than the microcenter displays that have a full complement of inputs?

Would your maker be aiming to go for the lower price point of of the DVI-only displays? Would the display-port only also have the beneficial effect of reducing latency similar to the DVI-only displays?

Those are my questions, do we stand to gain a lower price and better latency by giving up the additional other inputs such as the microcenter display?
 

Ayah

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I don't need a connection other than DP, but I'd also consider the quality of the panel, backlight and OSD configurable settings.
 

Black Octagon

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I believe the idea of limiting the inputs to solely display port is indeed to reduce input lag. Especially since there are already multi input models on the market.

It would be great if these could hit the market while remaining cheaper than the competition from Microcenter. Though I imagine a 120hz-capable version would command a higher price tag
 

jackstar7

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I can't speak specifically to the pricing, except to say that based on their current pricing structure which includes a "multi" being slightly higher than their DVI, and the maker saying that the DP-only would fall in the same slot as the DVI-only... so I think it would be cheaper within their pricing.

As for performance, the theory is that it would be better. Potentially better than DVI only models. I'm strongly encouraging the maker to get a sample or three made for testing so that someone could get some performance numbers out to demonstrate the actual value (assuming it does exist).
 

Jovec

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I believe the idea of limiting the inputs to solely display port is indeed to reduce input lag.

I'd imagine it's strictly cost. I believe HDMI requires a licensing fee be paid, and obviously DVI and VGA have costs associated with the physical connectors as well as the necessary internal circuitry to route the video signals.

I can say that today I won't buy any monitor without Displayport. I can also say that if I am buying a premium monitor I would want more than Displayport connectors. It doesn't make sense to buy a $300 or $400+ monitor and be input limited.
 
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I would be interested. I only use 1 input for my monitor anyway since its just hooked up to my computer so lack of inputs would not influence my decision.
 

Elixer

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My experience has been the only issue with DP is that some places make and sell cables that are not compliant with the actual VESA standards which wind up causing issues.

I'm trying to convince this maker to get/sell/provide compliant cables and help people move away from DVI and its bandwidth limitations and pins and everything I don't like about it.

+1, lots of DP cables that break the standard, and people blame the card or monitor.
 

KingFatty

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Tell them that they can create a very unique product and capture a market segment that is untapped!

*ESPECIALLY* if it can be the same cost (or lower?) than the DVI-only models, and that there is a possibility it would be even better at reducing latency. I think they'd make a killing.
 

jackstar7

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I appreciate all the responses. Hopefully this helps to push things closer to production!
 

blackened23

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Yeah, I would. I'd advocate for the manufacturer to include a DP cable, however - because a lot of DP cables aren't 100% VESA compliant. This leads to a lot of anomalies such as the monitor going into power saving mode on a warm reboot, and stuff of that nature. But it doesn't happen with compliant 1.2 cables.

Anyway, long story short - yes. I'd prefer the manufacturer to bundle one, though, which is what Dell does with their ultrasharps. However, another counter-point is that many pre-2008 video cards (and i'm sure there are a lot out there) do not have displayport. Additionally, many ultrabooks and portables do not have displayport - which would make a good argument for multi-inputs.
 

jackstar7

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... - which would make a good argument for multi-inputs.

Multi-inputs are plentiful in the market right now though, while DP-only doesn't exist. I'm hoping to see this guy take a chance and hopefully satisfy a demand that's out here, but just not vocal enough.

Though I also hope he does some testing to see how it performs with regards to lag and any other behaviors that can be quantified for all of us discerning consumers.
 

Pia

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I could use a display like that.

I haven't jumped into 1440p yet, but if I were to buy today, I'd buy the DVI-only ZR2740 because of the low lag. A low-lag DP-only monitor would be in the running if one existed.

Ultimately I'm hoping we could get a strobing or scanning backlight in a 1440p IPS monitor that would allow it to have very low motion blur despite still running at 60Hz.
 

blckgrffn

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At the right price, no problem. Just had my dad pick up a 30" from Monoprice, excited to see what that looks like. I am hoping to pick up a 27" monitor for my ~4 year refresh as IVB-E won't be coming in time.

And his 5850 would have driven a DP monitor just as well or better.
 

TakeNoPrisoners

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DP only would be fine, I wouldn't need any other inputs. Even better if it supported 120hz. It would finally be a display worthy of two Titans.
 
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