14th WCG Birthday Challenge

[StefanR5R]

Sign up for the WCG Birthday Challenge is up and can be found here - https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/challenge/viewTeamChallenge.do?challengeId=9145

TeAm AnandTech has signed up.

SETI.Germany's event page:
https://www.seti-germany.de/wcg/1_en_Welcome.html

SG's stats page:
https://www.seti-germany.de/wcg/stats_team_all.php?proj=wcg&lang=en

WCG's stats page:
https://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/team/challenge/viewTeamChallenge.do?challengeId=9145​

The event starts in less than 10 days from now. Plus, most of WCG's sub-projects have a task deadline of 10 days. In other words: The race has started today at 00:00 UTC already!

Our 2017 WCG Birthday Challenge thread:
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=threads/13th-wcg-birthday-challenge.2522851/

edit Nov 8: header image added

 

[Markfw]

Has Team Anandtech joined this race yet ?
In addition to the 100k ppd that I have going (not bunkered) I just started to bunker my 2990wx. 64 threads with 9 days bunkering......

 

[StefanR5R]

Has Team Anandtech joined this race yet ?

Yes, our captain @petrusbroder has registered us, and we are listed among the currently 82 teams that are going to participate in the birthday party...

 

[Markfw]

Yes, our captain @petrusbroder has registered us, and we are listed among the currently 82 teams that are going to participate in the birthday party...

cool

 

[StefanR5R]

This thread is eerily quiet...

Hence, some stats from the previous events:

• Until the end of the 2017 and 2016 events, our respective forum threads grew 117 and 120 posts. :-)

• Our points and ranks, copied from last year's thread:

9th challenge, 2013:

• 76 teams produced 484 M points together.
• The TeAm was 21st with 6.1 M (1.3 %).

10th challenge, 2014:

• 94 teams produced 885 M points.
• 484 M points were reached after 5d11h.
• The TeAm was 26th with 10.1 M (1.1 %).

11th challenge, 2015:

• 95 teams produced 756 M points.
• 1d5h more would have been needed to exceed the previous year's total.
• The TeAm was 25th with 6.6 M (0.9 %).

12th challenge, 2016:

• 83 teams produced 873 M points.
• 756 M points were reached after 5d23h.
• The TeAm was 15th with 12.7 M (1.5 %).

13th challenge, 2017:

• 95 teams produced 1,348 M points.
• 873 M points were reached after 4d6h.
• The TeAm was 8th with 73 M (5.4 %).
• 35 TeAm mates contributed to this challenge.

Spoiler: Our closest competitors throughout the years

2013:

19 _ MyOnlineTeam
20 _ AMD Users
21 _ TeAm AnandTech
22 _ BRAZIL - BRAZIL@GRID
23 _ SNURK and friends​

2014:

24 _ Team MoonLiteShadow
25 _ SETI.USA
26 _ TeAm AnandTech
27 _ The Knights Who Say Ni!
28 _ SETIKAH@KOREA​

2015:

23 _ MyOnlineTeam
24 _ BRAZIL - BRAZIL@GRID
25 _ TeAm AnandTech
26 _ BOINCstats
27 _ Cruncher Society​

2016:

13 _ Crunching@EVGA
14 _ AMD Users
15 _ TeAm AnandTech
16 _ HardOCP
17 _ UK​

2017:

6 _ TechPowerUp!
7 _ L'Alliance Francophone
8 _ TeAm AnandTech
9 _ Overclock.net
10 _ BOINC.Italy​

Spoiler: And for good measure, graphs of the past TeAm performances

2013:

2014:

2015:

2016:

2017:

And remember,
start is at November 16, 00:00:00 UTC (convert),
finish is at November 22, 23:59:59 UTC (convert).

 

[Orange Kid]

Just was looking at stats and we have a new TeAm member in WCG. Seems to be out producing Mark.
https://stats.free-dc.org/team/bwcg/16700
...and welcome cellarnoise2​

 

[Markfw]

Just was looking at stats and we have a new TeAm member in WCG. Seems to be out producing Mark.
https://stats.free-dc.org/team/bwcg/16700
...and welcome cellarnoise2​

WOW, I have over 200 cores for 112k points today, but he has 170k, so he must have 300 cores on it ! Talk about coming out of the woodwork.

 

[TennesseeTony]

Hello and welcome @cellarnoise ! Oh crap, that was creepy, I just heard a noise from down in the basement....

 

[biodoc]

Welcome cellarnoise!

I think this will be the first time I've participated in this event.

@StefanR5R, are the historical data you posted boinc or WCG points?

 

[StefanR5R]

@StefanR5R, are the historical data you posted boinc or WCG points?

I believe these are WCG points ( = 7 times of BOINC credits alias cobblestones).

We made 4.0 M BOINC credits in the April 2018 FB sprint at WCG. Assuming 3.5 days worth of production, that would be 1.1 M BOINC-ppd, or 8 M WCG-ppd.

Assuming 73 M WCG points at the 2017 B'day challenge, produced during ~2+7 = 9 days, would mean 8 M WCG-ppd as well.

--------
PS,
at the WCG Christmas race on December 1-25 in 2017, we made 105 M WCG points. That was 4.2 M WCG-ppd on average. (This was not much more than 25 days production, since we practically did not bunker before that race.)

 

[crashtech]

I have discovered that the Microbiome Immunity Project has generated large numbers of computation errors on a few of my systems for an as yet unknown reason. For now, I have discontinued participation in that project.

 

[StefanR5R]

I saw an issue with MIP if it runs in more than one client instance at a time, on Windows:
the problem
the cause

 

[biodoc]

It's interesting that MIP is using Rosetta. I'll have to try to dig a bit and see how and why they are using it.

 

[StefanR5R]

The event has started.

Watch for hourly updated stats at the SETI.Germany site (overall | teams | TeAm AnandTech).

WCG's own challenge stats are only updated once a day, and due to how their site updates work, the 00:00 UTC challenge stats are usually not showing up earlier than 12:00 UTC.

 

[ao_ika_red]

So, what's our target this year? Top 5 would be great.

 

[Markfw]

Well, we are now in 3rd, somebody dropped one heck of a bunker,.

 

[crashtech]

Well, that was brief. Now we are down to 5th. But that bunker drop might have partly been me.

 

[ao_ika_red]

Erm, @Markfw I'm interested in result comparison between your 1950X and 2990WX, do you have any?

 

[Markfw]

Erm, @Markfw I'm interested in result comparison between your 1950X and 2990WX, do you have any?

Well, I did some quick checking. One of my 1950x's is doing 4:40 cpu time on mapping cancer markers. The 2990wx is doing 3:80.

 

[ao_ika_red]

Well, I did some quick checking. One of my 1950x's is doing 4:40 cpu time on mapping cancer markers. The 2990wx is doing 3:80.

Well, that means WCG isn't hampered with NUMA issue, assuming it occupies all 64 logical cores. Thanks for the info.

 

[StefanR5R]

So, what's our target this year? Top 5 would be great.

Considering we were 8th last year, then 10th this year would already be a big improvement. This is because in contrast to 2017, this time three "financial services" ventures are registered as "teams" in this challenge. (Byteball.org with 14 M boinc-PPD daily average, BiblePay with 6.6 M, Gridcoin with 6.4 M. I took these averages from Free-DC. Note, IBM's average is 8 M boinc-PPD. Multiply with 7 to arrive at WCG-PPD. The challenge stats are counted in WCG points.)

Of the 7 teams which finished in front of us in 2017, the following ones are now (14 hours after the start) still behind us: HardOCP, Planet 3DNow!, TechPowerUp!, L'Alliance Francophone.

I do wonder whether or not SETI.USA made goals for themselves in this year's Birthday challenge, unlike 2017. They were the only real team who succeeded to get into the Thor challenge 2018 final round.

And to name just one more strong team of those who are still behind us, there is Decrypton. They did not participate in the Birthday challenge 2017, but they much outpaced us in a month long 12/2017 challenge.

Erm, @Markfw I'm interested in result comparison between your 1950X and 2990WX, do you have any?

Well, I did some quick checking. One of my 1950x's is doing 4:40 cpu time on mapping cancer markers. The 2990wx is doing 3:80.

When I measured MCM performance on my own hosts in November 2017, I found considerable variations between tasks on one and the same host:

• Run times varied between 3 h and 5 h.
• Granted credit per hour run time varied between 20 and 50 BOINC credits/hour.
• Samples with a size of more than 50 tasks still had coefficients of variation in excess of 10 %, for run time and for credits per run time, respectively.

If this variation is still going on in current MCM batches, then an average of points-per-day from a considerable number of tasks needs to be taken, before comparisons between different hardware can be made.

(Furthermore, to compare different hardware, use the same OS. Some WCG subprojects have a considerable performance difference between their Linux and Windows applications. I suspect MCM doesn't differ a lot per OS, but I haven't actually checked.)

 

[ao_ika_red]

When I measured MCM performance on my own hosts in November 2017, I found considerable variations between tasks on one and the same host:

• Run times varied between 3 h and 5 h.
• Granted credit per hour run time varied between 20 and 50 BOINC credits/hour.
• Samples with a size of more than 50 tasks still had coefficients of variation in excess of 10 %, for run time and for credits per run time, respectively.

If this variation is still going on in current MCM batches, then an average of points-per-day from a considerable number of tasks needs to be taken, before comparisons between different hardware can be made.

(Furthermore, to compare different hardware, use the same OS. Some WCG subprojects have a considerable performance difference between their Linux and Windows applications. I suspect MCM doesn't differ a lot per OS, but I haven't actually checked.)

Thanks for reminding me. I believe you'd told me about this last year, but I totally forgot about that.

 

[StefanR5R]

That's quite a pile there from wes. ---

Spoiler: it's huge

(graph from free-dc)

 

[crashtech]

Who is wes., how can I thank him and also gripe about him stealing my thunder?

 

[emoga]

Who is wes., how can I thank him and also gripe about him stealing my thunder?

I'm sure Stefan will steal my thunder pretty soon.