15 Cubans Who Got to Fla. Bridge Sent Home

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060109/ap_on_re_us/cubans_dry_land

Fifteen Cubans who fled their homeland and landed on an abandoned bridge piling in the Florida Keys were returned to their homeland Monday after U.S. officials concluded that the structure did not constitute dry land.
Under the U.S. government's "wet-foot, dry-foot" policy, Cubans who reach dry land in the United States are usually allowed to remain in the country, while those caught at sea are sent back.
The Cubans ? including a 2-year-old boy and a 13-year-old boy ? were sent back around midday, said a Coast Guard spokesman, Officer Dana Warr. They were rescued last week and were held aboard a Coast Guard cutter while they awaited a final decision on their status.
The case presented U.S. officials with an intriguing legal question.
The Cubans thought they were safe Wednesday when they reached the Old Seven Mile Bridge. But the historic bridge, which runs side by side with a newer bridge, is missing several chunks, and the Cubans had the misfortune of reaching pilings from a section that no longer touches land.
The federal government said that means the group never actually reached U.S. territory, and could be sent home.
An attorney for relatives of the Cubans filed an emergency request Monday asking the government to review the question of whether the bridge constitutes dry land. But the attorney apparently was unable to keep the Cubans from being sent back.

You make it that far, I say, "Welcome to America".

 

[thraashman]

This is why you never take the bridge. Nothing good ever comes of it.

 

[dahunan]

Why don't they just take a legal boat to Mexico and then come up through the Mexican American Turnstyle

 

[OrganizedChaos]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Why don't they just take a legal boat to Mexico and then come up through the Mexican American Turnstyle

bingo! if 50,000 other non mexicans do it every year so can they.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Why do we return the Cubans and not the Mexicans?

 

[palehorse]

we should return every single one of them that doesnt get here legally. period.

 

[EatSpam]

:thumbsup: Illegal immigration should not be tolerated. If they have a case, they should apply for asylum.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: EatSpam
:thumbsup: Illegal immigration should not be tolerated. If they have a case, they should apply for asylum.

In order to apply for asylum, the rule is that they have to make it to the mainland proper.
Not ankle deep in water by the shore, not on a bridge piling with dredged landfill - but the land above the tide line.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Why do we return the Cubans and not the Mexicans?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[OrganizedChaos]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Why do we return the Cubans and not the Mexicans?

because most politicians are white. and if a white man suggests that we send back the mexicans he becomes a racist and loses the next election.

 

[imported_K3N]

Yeah, most politicians are really looking for Mexican votes ( 12% of the population in US is hispanic ) including George w. Bush, who doesnt mind illegal Mexicans, as long as they get a job.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: K3N
Yeah, most politicians are really looking for Mexican votes ( 12% of the population in US is hispanic ) including George w. Bush, who doesnt mind illegal Mexicans, as long as they take an Americans job.

Fixed

 

[BaliBabyDoc]

Why do we return the Haitians and not the Cubans?

Unlike the jingoist crowd . . . I would let everybody stay. Crossing friggin' shark-invested water in a homemade boat should get you merit points.

 

[CaptnKirk]

US Screwed up bigtime - court rules that those who made it from Cuba to the Bridge in the US were entitled to asylum

So then, they were sent back - do you really think that Castro will enforce the 'No harm, no foul' rule -
and let them come back to the US without penalties ?

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
US Screwed up bigtime - court rules that those who made it from Cuba to the Bridge in the US were entitled to asylum

So then, they were sent back - do you really think that Castro will enforce the 'No harm, no foul' rule -
and let them come back to the US without penalties ?

I thought it was hokey.

They acted as if the Bridge was in International waters which it is clearly not.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk


US Screwed up bigtime - court rules that those who made it from Cuba to the Bridge in the US were entitled to asylum

So then, they were sent back - do you really think that Castro will enforce the 'No harm, no foul' rule -
and let them come back to the US without penalties ?

Thanks for posting this follow up CaptnKirk . I saw the court ruling and couldn't remember where I originally posted about it this a few months back.
And like others have said, if you aren't 100 percent sure you should let them get a hearing because if you are wrong you are sending them back to face harassment in Cuba.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk


US Screwed up bigtime - court rules that those who made it from Cuba to the Bridge in the US were entitled to asylum

So then, they were sent back - do you really think that Castro will enforce the 'No harm, no foul' rule -
and let them come back to the US without penalties ?

But if we rip them out of closets at gun point and send them back it's ok right?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk


US Screwed up bigtime - court rules that those who made it from Cuba to the Bridge in the US were entitled to asylum

So then, they were sent back - do you really think that Castro will enforce the 'No harm, no foul' rule -
and let them come back to the US without penalties ?

But if we rip them out of closets at gun point and send them back it's ok right?

The boy's immediate family was in Cuba. not in the US.

Guns were available because of the threats that had been made by the Cuban community against the Us officials regarding the retrieval of the boy. the legal scenario had already been played out.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk


US Screwed up bigtime - court rules that those who made it from Cuba to the Bridge in the US were entitled to asylum

So then, they were sent back - do you really think that Castro will enforce the 'No harm, no foul' rule -
and let them come back to the US without penalties ?

But if we rip them out of closets at gun point and send them back it's ok right?

The boy's immediate family was in Cuba. not in the US.

Guns were available because of the threats that had been made by the Cuban community against the Us officials regarding the retrieval of the boy. the legal scenario had already been played out.

NM... I'm in a bad mood. I was taking a swipe.

IIRC his return also had a lot to do with custody cases being fought by american parents whose kids had been wisked off to other countries.

My bad

 

[CaptnKirk]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: CaptnKirk


US Screwed up bigtime - court rules that those who made it from Cuba to the Bridge in the US were entitled to asylum

So then, they were sent back - do you really think that Castro will enforce the 'No harm, no foul' rule -
and let them come back to the US without penalties ?

But if we rip them out of closets at gun point and send them back it's ok right?

The boy's immediate family was in Cuba. not in the US.

Guns were available because of the threats that had been made by the Cuban community against the Us officials regarding the retrieval of the boy. the legal scenario had already been played out.

NM... I'm in a bad mood. I was taking a swipe.

IIRC his return also had a lot to do with custody cases being fought by american parents whose kids had been wisked off to other countries.

My bad

I was going to say something like "Shoot first - and stack the bodies like cordwood",
then I see you updated your posting text.

The pressure was from his father (I'm sure that Castro played it like a drum) to return his son -
a 'kidnapping' by the lost mother (she had drowned) and a Community Carnival by distant relatives for a political statement.

The Cuban Community in Miami has too much influence on US Political will - everything is bend oveer to appease them,
and they're not even hardly willing to do anything for the 'Outsiders' - like speak to them in English.
They insist on a enclave counterculture and don't like to discuss otherwise.

Go vist - and see how helpful they can be.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
Why do we return the Cubans and not the Mexicans?

we already have enough baseball players.

 

[rickn]

hrmm, where is this piling? i'd like to stand on it and declare myself a sovereign nation

 

[filterxg]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealand

 

[TRUMPHENT]

Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Why do we return the Haitians and not the Cubans?

Unlike the jingoist crowd . . . I would let everybody stay. Crossing friggin' shark-invested water in a homemade boat should get you merit points.

Haiti never hosted hostile nuclear weapons. Cuba got a deal for no US invasion if it obeyed treaties after the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Haitians don't have the wealthy and as many expatriots as does Cuba in the United States. Haiti doesn't evoke the same emotions as does Castro. It's easy to deport Haitians compared Cubans even though I believe life in Haiti is much tougher than it is in Cuba.

If the names Orlando Bosch, Hector Cornillot and Luis Posada Carriles are familiar, your question is answered.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: dahunan
Why don't they just take a legal boat to Mexico and then come up through the Mexican American Turnstyle

Because Mexico doesnt allow illegal immigration into their country.