@150FSB.. Faster Modem?

maxcom99

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Hi All,
I've noticed a funny thing lately with my modem. It is downloading at at least 7.4K steadily.. its a 56K modem. Before, I would see speeds like 4.2K. Is this a fluke or did raising the FSB do something? Im confused....

Thanks -max
 

lastig21

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Hypothetically, your modem could be running faster. You didn't overclock the phonelines though, so there is no way around the less than 56kbs limit. I would have to think something is giving false readings.
 

maxcom99

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I was trying to excuse it with something like "It has more time to compress the data before sending it since it runs faster?" I'll just enjoy it for now. Damn DSL takes 3 months to get.

Just strange to me. Anyone else have any ideas on this?
-max
 

Richardito

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<< I was trying to excuse it with something like "It has more time to compress the data before sending it since it runs faster?" I'll just enjoy it for now. Damn DSL takes 3 months to get.

Just strange to me. Anyone else have any ideas on this?
-max
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I had a similar thing happen to one of my old computers. I never figured out what caused it and just thought it was the overclocked PCI frequency that gave me the advantage.
 

MrDudeMan

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haha thats kinda funny, so if i OC my NIC, could i get a better ping in counterstrike?
 

phamtastik

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Maybe the files you were dl'ing were slightly compressable
So the hardware modem compression was kicking in and giving you higher transfer rates
 

maxcom99

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LOL, nope. It really is all the time for some strange reason. Ill quit trying to figure it out and enjoy it I guess.
-max
 

ssanches

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ROFL. This is a funny thread... Overclocking your modems by increasing FSB The only thing that's overclocked is the speed of the PCI bus. Heck if upping FSB could also overclock the PCI peripherals, we'd all be running faster HDD's and soundcards
 

EdipisReks

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um, dude, overclocking the FSB CAN and DOES overclock the PCI bus. that is why some hard drives and PCI devices don't cope well in an overclocked situations. for instance, if you are running a 100 mHz FSB that has a 1/3 divider nd you overclock the FSB to 133, you are now running your divices at 44 mHz instead of 33. if the devices can handle it, then they are now also overclocked since the bus is faster. this is why the 1/4 divider is so nice, since it puts the PCI bus back to stock speeds. a lot of devices (especially older ones) can't handle higher bus speeds.

--jacob
 

nania

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'Maxcom' is not imagining things. His modem is "over" modulating with the increase in clock speed. Even though the protocol is stuck at 56k the DACK and DSND signals in the modem are overclocked with the bus. I am running a P2BDS @4x125MHz and the modem in that machine always faster than my 8.5x100MHz Celery even though they are the same modems running under the same OS with the same drivers. My 60GXP hard drive should be bottlenecked by the paltry UDMA33 IDE bus but it gives me 40.8MB/s on the chart because the IDE bus is now capable of 41.67MB/s when the FSB is clocked at 125MHz.
 

ssanches

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No, I don't believe that his modem is overclocked. Overclocking the FSB only pushes the frequency at which the PCI operates. When the PCI bus is pushed up, the bandwidth to the PCI device increases from the host (CPU). The modem will still operate normally. That's why we don't see HDDs perform much better when the FSB is raised. The same applies for soundcards, lan, etc which sit on the PCI bus. Only thing that increases is the bandwidth to/from the PCI bus from/to the host, NOT the modem's bandwidth. The reason why we see improvements with the AGP graphics is because the AGP benefits from the increased bandwidth, while swapping textures to/from main memory to the VGA.

Edit: Cleared things for the nOObs
 

Richardito

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maxcom99, to settle this once and for all try to benchmark your modem before and after the overclock.
 

CapsLock

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Nania, overclocking fsb does not change bandwith of the modem. the modem settles bandwith during the first few seconds of connection. it
connects to the maximum speed the line and the counterpart (ISP) will allow. this might be 33kBps or more with 56kBps modem or even less.
Some windoze seem to simply tell you the maximum connection speed of the serial interface (mine does!) and not the connection speed.

It is probable that your telephone company chenged lines / configuration / sub-station lately and you get maximum speed now,
plus compression via V90.

there is a buffer (usually 16650 UART compatible in the chipset) that interfaces the modem data to the computer. there is no direct connection
between the modem and the pci bus, even in new softmodems.

cAPSlOCK
 

BadThad

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ROFLMAO!

Tell me this is not serious. HAHAHAHA

...the DACK and DSND signals in the modem are overclocked with the bus. I am running a P2BDS @4x125MHz and the modem in that machine always faster than my 8.5x100MHz Celery even though they are the same modems running under the same OS with the same drivers.

What do yo mean the "modem is always faster"? You trying to say you get a higher initial connect speed? Your cel connects at say 45 kbps and your P2BDS connects at 52 kbps on the same phone line because the PCI bus is overclocked?


 

ssanches

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<< Glad I could start an entertaining thread >>



No problemo We all do it once in a while...Luckily the mods didn't lock this thread even though it was kind of off-topic
 

Richardito

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<<

<< Glad I could start an entertaining thread >>



No problemo We all do it once in a while...Luckily the mods didn't lock this thread even though it was kind of off-topic
>>


Off topic? We are still talking overclocking here
 

Acanthus

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ya know just to throw in my $.02, The sound blaster live series of cards do not handle increased PCI buses due to overclocking the PCI bus, this is because the chips cannot handle running at the speed the pci bus is transmitting at, and therefore overheats the card causing it to fail (in mild situations).

Increasing the PCI bus of your cards does, in fact, increase the performance of your cards, if there is a bottleneck at the PCI bus, the Voodoo5 5500 AGP sees SIGNIFICANT increases in performance when the AGP bus exceeds 66mhz (83mhz stable) because the dual chip architecture actually has to wait for the agp bus to transmit the data to other devices within the computer (cpu, memory, etc.) and i have found this to be true through extensive testing with 5 3d games and 3dmark2001.

I can send more info if you need it.

I feel that soundcards dont see a performance increase because they dont have a bottleneck at the pci bus, your computer never has to wait to load a sound stream because your soundcard is too slow, but if you have a high end card like an Audigy or something, you may be able to measure a performance increase with large amounts of data like 96kbps 48000hz 64bit streams of sound and such with effects, or playing multiple streams at the same time. Im outta my league when it comes to soundcards, but i have done extensive experimenting with fsb overclocking.

If there is some kind of compression going on with modems, it is VERY possible that performance could be increased by increasing the PCI bus.
 

kan3

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hmm guess that means my pIII with 156fsb would cruise on a 56k hahaha
funny stuff
 
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