16 Pipe X800GTO from Sapphire $199 + $5 shipping

[Reiniku]

Ordered from atacom for 207 shipped, though it stated 209 + shipping on their page.

 

[Hacp]

Price gouge=bad. Everyone wants this new super card for super cheap!

 

[Derektm]

Testing mine now...

 

[Lithan]

Originally posted by: gsethi

Originally posted by: Garlic

Originally posted by: Lithan
Yes, after you mod it. If you were to sell it as a 16pipe card, that would however be fraud along the same lines as selling a 3700+ that runs at 2800mhz as an fx57
In Halflife 2, yeah. In everything else? No.
Does 32 bit color do anything, oh genius of the retards?



Quite frankly, unless you play mostly HL2, due to the MASSIVE drop in 6800gt value lately, it wouldn't be wise to switch cards. You'll probably only break even or wind up with a few dollars. And the gt would beat the gto2 in the majority of situations by a slight amount. Also, the loss of 3.0 is a bad thing. It makes a difference in games that support it. Take a look at side by side SS if you can find them.

lol.

What you dont understand the these GTO2 cards are actually X850XT PEs. Hence the slaughter of the 6800gt.

Here you go. <-- X850XT PE spoon feeding a 6800gt even on its own turf (Doom 3)

Garlic, No use talking/arguing with a nVidia fanboy .

let's enjoy our ~$320 worth of performance by spending ~$200 while let him enjoy his ~$300 worth of performance by spending ~$300.

PS: I did sell my x800XL (a 16 pipe card) for this one and couldnt be happier

You don't seem to understand here.

Firstly, an overclocked x850xt doesn't slaughter crap outside of halflife 2. It's give and take depending on the game and the settings. Second, you're getting $200-225 worth of performance. A 7800gt which can be had for $325 considerably beats an x850xt pe in everything but HL2, and it beats it in most settings for HL2. These cards aren't worth even close to $320. Thirdly, he has a 6800gt @ 6800ultra. That's faster than a 6800Ultra, which beats the x850xt pe by something like 5fps in Doom3 @ 1280x1024. And reviews that push them higher see the 6800ultra take a larger lead at more realistic settings (1600x1200) for this level of hardware. And finally, this thing doesnt have the same cooling as an x850 xtpe. There's a reason those cards have beefed up cooling. Assuming 100% success at 100% stability at x850xt pe clocks is obviously foolish. You're suggesting he sell a card that performs to a certain standard, to replace it with a card that has a chance at overclocking to perform similarly.

This card is the best price/perf in the area of 200-250 for PCI-E buyers. But selling a 6800gt to get it is plain stupid. And it's something only a fanboy would recommend.

 

[KristopherKubicki]

Back down to $200 at NE again!!

http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=3683

Kristopher

 

[DanDaMan315]

Originally posted by: Hacp
Stupid price gouging. Thats what all the big vendors do with hot items with limited aviliblity.

Today's Economic Lesson:
Demand Curve has shifted due to a change in consumer expectations. The Equilibrium point is therefor now at a higher price point.

 

[Pollock]

Mine just shipped from Atacom. Too bad it's via UPS ground. =/ At least I feel better about not ordering from Newegg now that it's shipped.

 

[Pollock]

Double post, sorry.

 

[Hacp]

Its back down. Get it guys before it runs out. Remember its limited aviliblity. ATI sold sapphire a certain number of chips, so once they run out they run out. Theres going to be no more.

 

[Doug117]

Originally posted by: Doug117
I better see these prices keep going up or the supply dry out or I'm gonna be mad

Originally posted by: KristopherKubicki
Back down to $200 at NE again!!

http://labs.anandtech.com/alllinks.php?pfilter=3683

Kristopher

GOD FSCKING DAMN IT!!!! 1 freakin hour after i order the damn things from allstarshop after kicking my own ass after not buying it last night for the price its back to now.... /me goes to see if i can cancel my other order...

<edit>No, cant cancel the order... gar. Well I paid $449.98 for two "lite" retail... $42 ($21 per) more than I could buy them for RIGHT NOW! Well at least they shipped today... Ebay, here i come...???</edit>

 

[Garlic]

Its not just the GPU chips. The entire card is an x850xt pe. Proof is in the use of 1.6ns memory. If they wanted run the memory at the current 490mhz then they would have used the 2.0ns chips like on the x800xl cards.

 

[Cooljt1]

i flashed mine and so far it has no errors after 3 hours of ati tool's artifact at 535/585. havnt played games or ran any benchmarks yet but it's looking good.

 

[imported_djspe]

Out of stock currently from ZZF. In stock at Newegg for $219-20 instant MIR = $199. Too bad they charge me tax Hope ZZF gets 'em in soon.

 

[Lithan]

Dont get me wrong garlic, it's a great card. But it's not worth selling a 6800gt@ 6800U (you'll get MAYBE $240 for). Buying this ~$210. And paying shipping on the 6800GT ~$10. You get $20 back, similar performance on average, probably spend that $20 plus another $10-15 buying upgraded cooling.

In the end you're out a few hours work (listing, bumping, dealing, answering questions, ordering, swapping, packing, shipping), maybe 10-20$, have slightly worse to slightly better performance (depending on the game, probably favoring the x800gto2 slightly assuming it's a decent clocker once you get a silencer/zalman/whatever for it), Your warranty now only guarantees you a 12pipe card in return assuming you ever have to RMA, lose the possibility of an SLI upgrade, lose sm 3.0.

You're sacrificing a little and gaining a little. And if you ever have to rma it a few months down the road, you'll probably get a PLAIN GTO in return which would suck. It's not worth the hassel.

Now if you have a 6800vanilla or worse? Yeah it's a great buy. I bought one myself.

Frankly I think the guys who think I've taken this stance out of fanboyism are the fools that bought an x850xt and have convinced themselves that it's significantly better than the 6800gt/ultra line to justify paying $400+ when a 6800gt costs $250. Barring 3dmark and HL2, it isn't. I've seen enough real game benchmarks to know that.

 

[DanDaMan315]

Is this crossfire capable?

 

[Voltik]

Will my powersupply (cheap 500W) limit my overclocking potential for this card? I won't be raising the voltage just the memory and core. Also how hard is it to replace the stock fan on the card with a zalman or the other fans?

 

[gsethi]

Originally posted by: Lithan
Dont get me wrong garlic, it's a great card. But it's not worth selling a 6800gt@ 6800U (you'll get MAYBE $240 for). Buying this ~$210. And paying shipping on the 6800GT ~$10. You get $20 back, similar performance on average, probably spend that $20 plus another $10-15 buying upgraded cooling.

In the end you're out a few hours work (listing, bumping, dealing, answering questions, ordering, swapping, packing, shipping), maybe 10-20$, have slightly worse to slightly better performance (depending on the game, probably favoring the x800gto2 slightly assuming it's a decent clocker once you get a silencer/zalman/whatever for it), Your warranty now only guarantees you a 12pipe card in return assuming you ever have to RMA, lose the possibility of an SLI upgrade, lose sm 3.0.

You're sacrificing a little and gaining a little. And if you ever have to rma it a few months down the road, you'll probably get a PLAIN GTO in return which would suck. It's not worth the hassel.

Now if you have a 6800vanilla or worse? Yeah it's a great buy. I bought one myself.

Frankly I think the guys who think I've taken this stance out of fanboyism are the fools that bought an x850xt and have convinced themselves that it's significantly better than the 6800gt/ultra line to justify paying $400+ when a 6800gt costs $250. Barring 3dmark and HL2, it isn't. I've seen enough real game benchmarks to know that.

Please provide a Link to a NEW 6800GT PCI-E Card for $250 please. Cheapest I see is $280 (+tax + shipping: ~$300).

Originally posted by: Lithan
Thirdly, he has a 6800gt @ 6800ultra. That's faster than a 6800Ultra

Please explain as to how a 6800GT @ 6800Ultra speeds faster than a 6800Ultra ???????
Shouldn't they be the same ?

Since the price of most 6800GTs is ~$300, he should be easily able to sell his "6800GT @ 6800Ultra" for ~$300 and get this for ~205 (or ~220 if taxed) and pocket $80 and get roughly the same performance. (+/- 5% performance difference is negligible in my opinion)


EDIT: Also, when the next gen (R520 etc) cards come out, 6800GT/x850xt cards will drop in price while this card will most probably hold its value for atleast another 4-6 months

 

[Lithan]

Newegg has run 250 after MIR pci-e 6800gt's for probably about a month total over the last two months.
6800gt has tighter ram latency than the ultra. So ram @ same overclock is faster.
You're absolutely crazy if you think you can sell a 6800gt for 300.
No, 6800gt wont lose value because they will have already lost value due to the 7800 release.

 

[bubsnews]

Am I missing something??? ZZF price is a retail card ($214 shipped 2nd day), NE price is OEM ($205 shipped 3-5 ground).

I would go for the ZZF retail card for $9 more in a heartbeat, which is what I've done btw.

Hey, an aside. I have a Dell 9100 w/o floppy drive. I tried to create a boot CD using a different computer with a floppy drive but the 9100 doesn't see the keyboard after booting from that CD. Is that because the computer that created the boot CD had a ps/2 keyboard and the 9100 uses USB keyboard?

The 9100 has no ps/2 port, only usb. Should I install a floppy in the 9100 just to make the boot disk and flashing the GTO2? Or, are there other options?

Thanks to OP and to the flash coder, great deal.

George -bub

 

[RideFree]

Is the x800GTO² modded to x850xt as good as This?

 

[Cooljt1]

Originally posted by: RideFree
Is the x800GTO² modded to x850xt as good as This?

the x800GTO2 modded to an x850xt will slaughter an x1300 pro. the x1300 pro. actually an x800gto2 non modded would probably be better than an x1300 pro too. the x1300 pro is a budget card

read this
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2552

 

[BlackPear1]

Plus you can actually get a GTO2 - I'm happy that I did.

 

[Reiniku]

Originally posted by: bubsnews
Am I missing something??? ZZF price is a retail card ($214 shipped 2nd day), NE price is OEM ($205 shipped 3-5 ground).

I would go for the ZZF retail card for $9 more in a heartbeat, which is what I've done btw.

Hey, an aside. I have a Dell 9100 w/o floppy drive. I tried to create a boot CD using a different computer with a floppy drive but the 9100 doesn't see the keyboard after booting from that CD. Is that because the computer that created the boot CD had a ps/2 keyboard and the 9100 uses USB keyboard?

The 9100 has no ps/2 port, only usb. Should I install a floppy in the 9100 just to make the boot disk and flashing the GTO2? Or, are there other options?

Thanks to OP and to the flash coder, great deal.

George -bub

I think you're missing that ZZF is OOS atm. :b

 

[Nutdotnet]

So...is it better to get one of these NOW...or wait for the new video cards to come out next month? I'm just looking for something decent, low-priced, and will last a couple years.

 

[Doug117]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
So...is it better to get one of these NOW...or wait for the new video cards to come out next month? I'm just looking for something decent, low-priced, and will last a couple years.

I was asking myself the same question. The overclockability of these cards at this price point sold it for me. This will be a current card for some time to come. The new X1600s X1800s wont be THAT much better than this, but cost a ton more as evidenced Here. Course thats before ATI can tweak the drivers some, but still, you're getting a X850XT PE out of this X800 pretty much, and according to those benchmarks, you're right at par with the new cards