16 year drives drunk and kills 4 people and gets sentenced...

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Anonemous

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Doesn't surprise me anymore. Kid's family could probably even hire a body double if the kid got any jail time.
 

MrDudeMan

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You should read this article. It will make you feel slightly better about the judge. Basically, she was working within the confines of the system because he's not an adult. Sending him to prison would have worked out to be less time than probation most likely.

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VulgarDisplay

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What a crock of shit.

I have a friend who went to jail for a year because a tire blew in his truck which caused it to roll over killing the passenger. He blew a .06 and they threw the book at him because he had a CDL. This kid was completely wasted, killed 4 people and gets nothing...
 

chin311

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saw this on the news last night, such bullshit.

people were in an uproar because Zimmerman shot some thug kid and he died

this 16 year old should be tied to a post on the side of the road and run over by a semi.
 

ch33zw1z

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You should read this article. It will make you feel slightly better about the judge. Basically, she was working within the confines of the system because he's not an adult. Sending him to prison would have worked out to be less time than probation most likely.

Link

Well, would 5 years in prison a stiffer punishment than 10 years probation, no house arrest, no monitoring other than visits from your probation officer? Oh, and he gets to hang out in a posh SoCal treatment facility.

I submit that prison time would be sufficiently better, and no sentence to prison would be in excess.

Shit man, even on probation the kid can drink. Do any drug you want, sans marijuana, just stop a week before your monthly visit and you'll test clean.

The judge is making excuses for this obvious gross injustice. "oh, this is hte legal system we have" Ok, then we'll vote to change it so people who suffer from "affluenza" can get their curing dose of reality in a prison.

In my opinion, they kid should suffer death by getting run over and just leave him there to die slowly.
 

Wreckem

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Well, would 5 years in prison a stiffer punishment than 10 years probation, no house arrest, no monitoring other than visits from your probation officer? Oh, and he gets to hang out in a posh SoCal treatment facility.

I submit that prison time would be sufficiently better, and no sentence to prison would be in excess.

Shit man, even on probation the kid can drink. Do any drug you want, sans marijuana, just stop a week before your monthly visit and you'll test clean.

The judge is making excuses for this obvious gross injustice. "oh, this is hte legal system we have" Ok, then we'll vote to change it so people who suffer from "affluenza" can get their curing dose of reality in a prison.

In my opinion, they kid should suffer death by getting run over and just leave him there to die slowly.

Testing is done at random, it is not regularly scheduled. Not to mention he will probably be required to wear an alcohol monitoring device throughout the entirety of his probation. Once he gets his license back, he'll likely also have interlock installed on any vehicle he is allowed to drive.
 
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ch33zw1z

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Testing is done at random, it is not regularly scheduled. Not to mention he will probably be required to wear an alcohol monitoring device throughout the entirety of his probation. Once he gets his license back, he'll likely also have interlock installed on any vehicle he is allowed to drive.

Testing is as "random" as they want to make it. I speak from others experience who were friends or family. From what I've seen, this is how it's random: You go visit your probation officer once a month, you may or may not have to take a drug test.

Oh yea, this kid will have to wear a monitoring device... Are we even reading the same story?
 

Wreckem

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This is going to be a pre-emptive strike, because I know some media outlet is going to run a story styled, Grinch who stole Christmas sentenced to 70 years but boy who killed 4 given 10 years probation. The media will leave out some important facts.

So here goes. Yesterday, a women in Parker County, Texas(right next to Tarrant) was sentenced to 70 years. The popular story in the media right now is, and dumbasses are eating it up, is she was sentenced to 70 years for stealing Christmas lights and power tools. Oh the outrage, she got 70 years, this kid got 10 years probation. Shock injustice.

The reality is, the lady was out on bond for 2 misdemeanors counts of stealing xmas lights last December. While out on bond this past spring she stole some tools, FROM SOMEONES HOUSE. Thats not theft that is the second degree felony known as burglary of a habitation. Wait then why did she get 70 years if a second degree felony is 2-20 with the possibility of probation if its your first offense/felony. Basically both burglary of a habitation and intoxicated manslaughter are 2nd degree felonies and eligible for the same sentencing or probation.

So why did she get 70 years? That is far more than 20. It was her 7th or 8th felony conviction. Some of her lovely convictions include solicitation of murder, 2x child abuse, 2x felony fraud. Because of her extensive felony record the burglary of a habitation conviction was eligible for enhanced sentencing under Texas' 3 Strike law meaning she was going to get anywhere from 25-99 years(life with parole). So yes she got 70 years, but something they probably also won't even mention either, she will be eligible parole after tiny fraction of that sentence.

Flash forward ~15-20 years and I wouldn't be shocked to see, Granny the Former Parker County Grinch, sentenced to life in prison for "stealing" $20 from a convenient store. Shock/Outrage...
 
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Wreckem

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Testing is as "random" as they want to make it. I speak from others experience who were friends or family. From what I've seen, this is how it's random: You go visit your probation officer once a month, you may or may not have to take a drug test.

Oh yea, this kid will have to wear a monitoring device... Are we even reading the same story?

Or you can be tested randomly weekly. And if you read the other thread, this kid is far from the first this year to get 10 years probation, let alone over the past several or going back 10+.

You roll your eyes, but you said he can easily drink/do drugs. That won't be the case, he'll be heavily tested and will be required to wear an alcohol monitoring bracelet. If he were to drink or do drugs the odds are he will be caught and go to jail for 10 years.
 
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ch33zw1z

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You roll your eyes, but you said he can easily drink/do drugs. That won't be the case, he'll be heavily tested and will be required to wear an alcohol monitoring bracelet. If he were to drink or do drugs the odds are he will be caught and go to jail for 10 years.

That is yet to be seen. Maybe his "affluenza" will starting acting up and your claims won't be the case.

Don't forget the Golden Rule, already stated in this thread as well.
 

Lonyo

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You should read this article. It will make you feel slightly better about the judge. Basically, she was working within the confines of the system because he's not an adult. Sending him to prison would have worked out to be less time than probation most likely.

Link

The same judge who apparently gave a 14 year old kid 10 years in prison for punching someone who then fell down, hit their head and died.

Sure, working within the confines of the system.
 

Wreckem

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The same judge who apparently gave a 14 year old kid 10 years in prison for punching someone who then fell down, hit their head and died.

Sure, working within the confines of the system.

You CONVENIENTLY leave out the part where she tried to sentence him to inpatient behavioral rehabilitation treatment and probation but NO FACILITY WAS WILLING TO TAKE THE CHILD.

Oh and his sentence was 10 years in a juvenile detention facilty(well 7 years in juvi and 3 in prison). The reality is the kid will be eligible to be released in under 2 years and will almost certainly be released by his 18th birthday, unless of course he has another violent outburst and kills someone else while in juvi.
 
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bononos

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Should've sentenced for his hands to be crushed so he has to be chauffeured everywhere.
 

ch33zw1z

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You CONVENIENTLY leave out the part where she tried to sentence him to inpatient behavioral rehabilitation treatment and probation but NO FACILITY WAS WILLING TO TAKE THE CHILD.

If only he had $40k per month to spend on a rehab facility, he would've been all set.
 

WilliamM2

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What a crock of shit.

I have a friend who went to jail for a year because a tire blew in his truck which caused it to roll over killing the passenger. He blew a .06 and they threw the book at him because he had a CDL. This kid was completely wasted, killed 4 people and gets nothing...

So you think a year is a tough sentence for killing someone while driving drunk? Sounds to me like you friend got off easy too.
 

VulgarDisplay

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So you think a year is a tough sentence for killing someone while driving drunk? Sounds to me like you friend got off easy too.

He wasn't drunk. He had a tire blow out causing the vehicle to flip after he lost control. .08 is legally intoxicated for normal people, but he had his CDL so blowing a .06 got him in big trouble.
 

WilliamM2

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He wasn't drunk. He had a tire blow out causing the vehicle to flip after he lost control. .08 is legally intoxicated for normal people, but he had his CDL so blowing a .06 got him in big trouble.

That's because DUI is .04% or higher for those with a commercial license in many states, some states are as low as .02. He had the license, he should know the law.

.05 is considered impaired here in Michigan for any driver. Would he have lost control if he were sober? I have no pity for someone driving at .06, lost a few friends to drunk or impaired drivers. He got off easier than his passenger.
 

DrunkenSano

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Good, take all of the "affluenza" family's money, then hopefully they get killed soon by karma.
 

Ns1

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UPDATE:

Lawsuits are starting to come in. Parents and parents company also sued.

http://kfor.com/2013/12/16/victims-...llion-dollar-lawsuits-against-affluenza-teen/

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Vi...awsuits-Against-Affluenza-Teen-236006321.html

of note:

Couch's father, Fred, is included in all the cases. Additionally, Fred Couch's company, Cleburne Metal Works, is also targeted in all suits. The company owned the Ford F-350 driven by Couch in the crash.

hopefully they won't have any money left after all of this.
 

rh71

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2 wrongs make a right if drunk drivers would please die too. It's remarkable how someone can go from 70-0mph in an instant and still live. Is it still the explanation that they are loose at impact?

Oh and lawyers who defend these POS are despicable.
 
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zinfamous

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http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/Vi...awsuits-Against-Affluenza-Teen-236006321.html

of note:



hopefully they won't have any money left after all of this.

My bet is the company gets shut down but the family gets to keep enough money to still live more comfortably than 90% of people, especially the father's former employees.

Now that's justice.

^that.

However, I hate the company being put under, and employees losing their jobs because of these worthless people.
 
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