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[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You're right, it is a little itty bitty advertisement. Big businesses use holidays and national symbols to sell you stuff all the time. I don't see a problem with it.

you also don't seem to see why others do have a problem with it, despite many reasons being spelled out clearly for you. you are an "opt out" guy. I prefer to "opt in", and if I haven't done so leave me alone.

big businesses aren't leaving unsolicited "patriotic" advertisements on my lawn.

They sure do load up your mailbox though I bet.

I can see your point though...maybe it's something we should reconsider.

BTW-She will still do the monthly newletters...just like all the other agents who market the area. Might have to rethink the flags though.

:thumbsup:

 

[BlueWeasel]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
I'd do exactly what his wife is doing. Something nice... with my business card attached.

At first, he might like it or think it 'nice', but probably after the 10th time or so, he'll start to see just how annoying it gets.

Maybe that's why the neighbor got pissed at his wife. Apparently, she passes out stuff several times a year (flags for July 4th, pumpkins for Halloween).

If someone was passing out the same business card for each major holiday, I'd probably get tired of it too, regardless of the "great" stuff she's giving me.

 

[cKGunslinger]

No one likes to admit they or someone they know/love is wrong. But then again, maybe you shouldn't post their actions to ATOT if you only want people to rally behind you in support.

Your wife is a spammer. Just because she's not selling pen1s pills or promising free iPods doesn't make it any less true.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Nik

Originally posted by: Jadow
I agree with the Neighbor. I'd call the cops for tresspassing if she does it again. She shouldn't use the flag our soldiers die for to sell her services with.

I have no problem with using the flag on company material. Hell I work for a defense contractor and make a lot of our marketing material. However, a flag in someone else's yard with company advertising on it is too far in my opinion.

It's not a company...my wife is self employed. There is a compliments of paper with her business card stapled to it. Nothing more.

It's obviously a little itty bitty advertisement. If it doesn't have anything to do with your wife soliciting possible income, why attach the business card? Just plant the flags and be done with it.

You're right, it is a little itty bitty advertisement. Big businesses use holidays and national symbols to sell you stuff all the time. I don't see a problem with it.

Jules, what your wife is doing is against flag etiquette.
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Is it okay for an advertisement to use the flag?

No. Section 8i (see below) reads,
"The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown."

edit: Capitol One, one of the "big businesses" you mention is specifically mentioned in the link.

Just because others do something doesn't make it right. That's a piss-poor excuse.

 

[cKGunslinger]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
You're right, it is a little itty bitty advertisement. Big businesses use holidays and national symbols to sell you stuff all the time. I don't see a problem with it.

you also don't seem to see why others do have a problem with it, despite many reasons being spelled out clearly for you. you are an "opt out" guy. I prefer to "opt in", and if I haven't done so leave me alone.

big businesses aren't leaving unsolicited "patriotic" advertisements on my lawn.

They sure do load up your mailbox though I bet.

I can see your point though...maybe it's something we should reconsider.

BTW-She will still do the monthly newletters...just like all the other agents who market the area. Might have to rethink the flags though.

Sounds reasonable.

/thread

 

[dartworth]

You are calling someone a dumbass when it is your wife who is breaking the law...:roll:


edit: I see it already has been pointed out...

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: DP

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: J0hnny
She's lucky she didn't get a bullet from my gun.

QFI. (quoted for idiocy)

j0hnny, shut the fvck up.

lol

 

[SuperSix]

Masturbate?

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: Yossarian
I don't think I would like that either. She's using the flag to sell her services which doesn't sit all that well with me.

QFT

 

[purbeast0]

honestly, i'd be mad with that crap on my lawn too. atleast if it was put there w/out even informing me about it. if she came and knocked on my door about it first and I OK'ed it, then that would be okay.

but for her to just come and put her business card stuck into my yard, that would piss me off. IMO, its worse than the guys who come and put little dominoes pizza things on your house doorknob, because this is much more noticeable and sticks out since its the american flag.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Well, of course it is marketing...She isn't just doing this out of the kindness of her heart, she wants to sell houses but I don't see that this is a big deal. Fvck, all kinds of businesses run these big patriotic ad campaigns with the American flag on it for 4th of July weekend. They are clearly using the holiday to make money. Do you people boycott those businesses because they are using the flag and this holiday to try to make money?

Your wife was in the wrong. Deal with it. She was spamming people's property and using the flag in a technically illegal manner.

While I'm not one to call the cops on someone for something like this, you shouldn't be complaining when she was in the wrong.

It's not illegal. She also passes out pumpkins on Halloween to all the houses in our area.

Most people actually appreciate it.

They'd probably appreciate a blowjob much better.

haha... that made me LOL literally.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Well look at it this way: The complaining neighbor must have a life of ease and good fortune if hse has nothing bigger to worry about than this.

Jason

 

[munruss]

Tell your wife to get in the kitchen and shut up already!

 

[sapiens74]

I wouldn't like it in my yard either,

THen again, i don't go in my yard much.

Well nm.......

 

[ZOOYUKA]

Originally posted by: Yossarian
I don't think I would like that either. She's using the flag to sell her services which doesn't sit all that well with me.

My thoughts exactly. There could be better ways to do this. Plus, you should be busy trying to be friends with your neighbors and not worry about selling their house. If they were her friend they would probably solicit her business if for some reason they would move.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: dartworth
You are calling someone a dumbass when it is your wife who is breaking the law...:roll:

I'm pretty sure it's not "law" it's "etiquette". Still, yes, the person b!tching at his wife has a point, and he shouldn't be so quick to judge them a "dumbass".

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA

Originally posted by: Yossarian
I don't think I would like that either. She's using the flag to sell her services which doesn't sit all that well with me.

My thoughts exactly. There could be better ways to do this. Plus, you should be busy trying to be friends with your neighbors and not worry about selling their house. If they were her friend they would probably solicit her business if for some reason they would move.

Believe me, we are friends with our neighbors. Most people in our neighborhood know my wife and are very friendly. She's sold probably 7 or 8 homes in our neighborhood in the past 2 years.

I think we can wrap up this thread now everyone! I've already said that we will reconsider our plans to do this again next year.

/thread

 

[Lorn]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
So, every year my wife spends money to market the area we live in. For the 4th of July she buys hundreds of little American flags you stick in the ground and she goes around our neighborhood and plants one in the lawn of every house. It has her business card on the stick and says compliments of Mrs. JulesMaximus on it. Anyway, she's out doing this today and some nutjob busybody comes along and starts yelling at her telling her she is denegrating the flag and she's littering and she's going to call the cops on her. My wife politely offered to take her off her list and not market her house in the future but apparently that's not good enough.

Great. Why do we always get the whackos??? :roll:

She's had quite a bit of positive feedback from other residents in the past when she's done this, I don't see what the big deal is.

I'd be a bit peeved, too. Sounds really tacky.

 

[UpGrD]

Flag yes... business card No.....
Lawn spam..............

 

[PowerMac4Ever]

Originally posted by: notfred
Does she leave flyers on people's windshields and doorknobs, too? Nobody wants people putting advertsiing all over thier property, whether it has a flag or not.

Agreed plus I hate the fact that idiots use the American flag to advertise their crap. That's not what the flag is for, imho.

 

[RaiderJ]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: allisolm
Someone puts flags out at all our mailboxes every year at this time and I think it looks great with all the flags waving up and down the street. However, the US flag code does say "The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever" and "Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown." So maybe that's where the nutjob is coming from.

Well, I think the "courtesy of" card gets around that "rule". Technically, she's not selling anything or asking you to buy anything-just letting you know who left the flag. The card can be pulled off easily and discarded just leaving the flag.

So by skirting the law on a technicality, you don't think anyone should ever dislike your wife posting her flags/advertisements? Granted the guy was just a little too upset, but get real - quit putting stuff on people's lawn w/o permission.

Sounds like lawn adware to me.

 

[Lorn]

Originally posted by: RaiderJ


Sounds like lawn adware to me.

Agreed.

Edit: And I'm not exactly what you would call a patriot, but that whole business card flag deal seems pretty disrespectful. A bit ironic, too. What a better way to capitalize than do it on the symbol that is capitalist.

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: walla

Originally posted by: alien42
this is america, if i can burn the flag, i better be able to use it to make money.

That's actually a good point. If "free speech" allows us to burn the flag, free speech should allow us to do just about anything with it, including advertisement.

Not putting advertisement in my lawn. You want to leave a flag fine leave a flag but keep the ads to yourself unless you want to pay my taxes

 

[tyler811]

Originally posted by: Nik
1) She's using the flag to sell her services
2) She's using other people's property without permission.

:thumbsdown:

:thumbsup:

 

[0roo0roo]

flag yes.

advertise NO!!!!

it taints.. it taints.