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ClimberRich

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What's a good moderately priced controller that will do sata Raid 1 or 5?

On the low end I seem to find lots os stuff that has questionable reliability/limited software support for $20 or $30.

On the high end I'm finding lots of $2 or 300 controllers.

Thanks!
 

SimMike2

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I've had excellent luck with Maxtor drives. They have been more reliable for me than either WD, Seagate, IBM and Hitachi - combined! What has been most disturbing about the failure of these other brands is the lack of warning. With Maxtor, you can usually tell something is going on, which gives you time to backup and maybe swap out the drive for warranty work. WD is notorious for sudden failures. Seagate and IBM (Hitachi now) are famous for hard to get warranty work.
 

echow87

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I hav owned one maxtor hd and that is a Diamondmax 10 300gb 16mb cache sata drive and it died on me within 2 months. All my other WD hds (20gb, 40gb, 40gb, 80gb, 120gb, 160gb, 160gb, 200gb, 250gb, 300gb) never died on me.

Maybe I was just bad luck and got a bad drive...
 

imported_Dhaval00

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Jul 23, 2004
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Originally posted by: ClimberRich
What's a good moderately priced controller that will do sata Raid 1 or 5?

On the low end I seem to find lots os stuff that has questionable reliability/limited software support for $20 or $30.

On the high end I'm finding lots of $2 or 300 controllers.

Thanks!

Here is one.
http://www.xpcgear.com/prosx4000lte.html

If you have SATA drives, you could get an adapter that will allow you to connect your SATA drives to it (it supports only ATA 133).
http://www.xpcgear.com/idetosataconv.html

RAID5 devices will have compatibilty issues (in most cases).
 

Reiniku

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I have 3 of the 300gb flavors of this drive running for nearly 6 months now. Really happy with them and am buying a 4th to possibly run raid 5, or just run them independent.
 

RideFree

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Originally posted by: Reiniku
I have 3 of the 300gb flavors of this drive running for nearly 6 months now. Really happy with them and am buying a 4th to possibly run raid 5, or just run them independent.
wag,
Although your ? had to do w/raid, What Reiniku proposes to do in the previously emphasized post is called...
JBOD = Just a Bunch Of Drives in the raid world. (But, it's not really RAID.)

 

necine

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my maxtor drives have been rock solid. I am considering this deal. extra 500 gb sounds pretty nice right now.
 

AAman

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my maxtor 250g is a paperweight, and my maxtor drives fail like clockwork, wd are almost as bad- but have a better warranty
 

gwag

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RAID 1 can read faster than a single drive, RAID code employs a rather good read-balancing algorithm, that will simply let the disk whose heads are closest to the wanted disk position perform the read operation. not as much as 0 but can be faster.
 

nycdude

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Originally posted by: Novercalis
everyone flames maxtor.
everyone flames WD
everyone is undecided with Haitchi whatever
we all heard Seagte also failed many time but yet praised..

guys for once I will threadcrap and say STFU...

we all heard peoplle supporting Maxtor aswell
with Haitchi, samsung, WD, Seagate.

its either Noise, failure, Hot or something ya complain about when it comes to HD.
I have acknowledge when searching for realible HD, i seen the good and the bad on all product and concluded there isnt a PERFECT HD out there. plain and simple.

maxtor is still a active HD supplier and it would have went down to hell if those complains were true to a point to hurt thier sales.
nuff said..

I like that. LOL

I, knock on wood, never had a Maxtor go bad on me and I had like 5 drives from them.
 

BlackPear1

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Maxtor's been OK for me so far (as have WD, Fujitsu, Samsung & Seagate). Thanks OP.

Edit: For some RAID info check here. It's an old article but the general explanation is OK.
 

Morpheux

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Great drive, ordered one from Newegg a month or so ago for $103. It's the main drive in my Gaming Rig now.

In the past 4 years, I've had 4 WDs die and 1 Maxtor.
 

jitspoe

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I've had 4 maxtors, and 3 of them died. Say what you want, but I don't plan on buying any more.
 

Markbnj

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[exactly and with good reason too. But this deal is okay. ]

How can any hard drive deal be ok if people have good reason to whine about the disk manufacturer? If Maxtor really does make poor quality drives, then free would be too expensive unless all 250 gigs of data is throw-away.
 

Venomous

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Ive been using maxtors since 1996.. Ive bought over 40+ drives since than only 3 have failed. Those 3 failures were my fault. Anyone munching hard drives are either mis handling them and not properly mounting them, placing them in extreme heat conditions or their power supply is killing them. Voltage fluctuation is not good. Ive even seen people try to hot swap a hd and they wonder why they kill them.. Another thing, Maxtors do not like to be installed in IDE Cages for hot swapping. You will kill them instantly..
 

AAman

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because maxtor is utter crap, and the deal isn't worth it- I've had every Maxtor fail!
160g, 200g, and now the 250g! of the 3 drives now in my system, not a one is a maxtor
and the one year warranty shows how bad they are
 

Pocatello

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I've had maxtor, IBM/Hitachi, WD HDDs over the years, all of them have been reliable, knock on wood. Even in the dark days of the deathstar series.
 

cw42

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mine just came today, and i must say, TD packages their stuff very poorly. The hd was in an antistatic bag, inside a small plastic box. However, there was practically no padding in the box it was shipped it, so its been bumping around in that box the entire trip I just finished formatting the drive, and hopefully everything will be ok.
 

Samus

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Originally posted by: SimMike2
I've had excellent luck with Maxtor drives. They have been more reliable for me than either WD, Seagate, IBM and Hitachi - combined! What has been most disturbing about the failure of these other brands is the lack of warning. With Maxtor, you can usually tell something is going on, which gives you time to backup and maybe swap out the drive for warranty work. WD is notorious for sudden failures. Seagate and IBM (Hitachi now) are famous for hard to get warranty work.

I had to jump in there because he said something about Seagate not being reliable.

You sir, are an idiot.

www.storagereview.com drive reliability survey. Of 1900 7200.7 drives in the database, they have been calculated to be 89.8% more reliable than ALL other drives in the database.

I am a MCSB with an output of 800 systems so far this year. All have 7200.7 or 7200.8 drives. I have never had one fail. I haven't even had one damaged in shipping, DOA, or otherwise defective.

Seagate drives are a testament to modern engineering.

Do your math. Find me someone who's had a Seagate fail on them since the advent of the Baracuda V that wasn't caused unnaturally (crap PSU, poor cooling, physical abuse) although these drives put up to practically anything.

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Ohh Holy Mother of God, I finished reading this morons post about pre-emptive warning of Maxtor drives.

Considering Maxtor drives generally mailfunction from electronic component failure, you are regularely giving NO warning and just a symptom of a) click of death/head sync failure or b) complete controller failure/initialization failure.

Both cases result in irrecoverable data, both cases are the most common for all hard drives, not just Maxtors. The difference between Maxtor and everyone else is they run excessively HOT (read ANY review of maxtor drives, they are HOT HOT HOT compared to Seagate and WD, for example) which using the laws of physics, heat diminishes lifespan of transistor integrated circuits.

You further admitted having a Maxtor drive fail on you by stating it gave you 'warning before failure.' Exactly how many times have you experienced this? Don't you consider this unreliable that your drives continue to FAIL?

Currently Maxtor has 1 year warranty on OEM, 3 year warranty on 'some' retail drives. I won't comment on WD's warranty since it functions pretty much the same, but Seagate has a 5 year warranty on ALL storage products, even past products predating the new warranty standard (you have a drive from 2001? good, you can RMA that 10GB doot if you needed.)

I've RMA'd Maxtor drives, its a pain in the arse because they purchased Quantum and the drives has rediculous S/N and Model # schema's. It is harder in my experience to RMA a Maxtor than ANY other brand. Furthermore, drives I receive back from Maxtor generally are cosmetically blemished, refurbished (obviously) and sometimes DOA. WTF?

I can't help but think you actually know what your talking about. I'm sure by now it looks like I'm picking on you, but I really hope nobody reads your propaganda and believes it. Then I'll just have to deal with more morons in the general public cus they 'heard' this bs from 'somewhere.'

Ohh yea,

Maxtor stock= <$5
Seagate stock= $20

Whats amusing here is that Maxtor is a HUGE company compared to Seagate, yet they have less capitol and investment. They also make a wider range of products since purchasing Quantum, including common-place DLT drives. Yet, they are struggling and recently lost their CFO from internal corruption. I can't help but ask why this company is still in business.
 

Merlin

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I have both WD's and Maxtors and Hitachis and Seagates and have had failures from all companies, but none that would be considered above average (except the old IBM 75 GXP's). The MAXLINE III has a 5 year warranty, the 2500JB that I most recently had die that i purchased RETAIL had only a 1 year warranty..
 

Gast

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Originally posted by: Samus
Originally posted by: SimMike2

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Considering Maxtor drives generally mailfunction from electronic component failure, you are regularely giving NO warning and just a symptom of a) click of death/head sync failure or b) complete controller failure/initialization failure.

Both cases result in irrecoverable data [SNIP]


Actually, in the case of a controller failure, getting your data off is usually as easy as getting the same model drive and slapping on the new PCB board attached to the underside of your HD. And as for the "click of death", this is the easiest thing that a Data Recovery Service can expect. They actually charge a flat fee instead of per MB in most cases I've heard of with this problem.

There is rarely a case of truely "irrecoverable" data when it comes to HDD failure. It's just a mater of if you think your data's worth the price of recovery.

When it comes to HDD failure, if you are really worried about it, buy server Harddrives. They are the true kings of realibility. Very rarely do you hear about a SCSI drive failing them, or having to RMA their WD Raptor. It's not the brand name that makes the biggest difference. It's the quality of the drive. You get what you pay for.
 

lazarus000

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Originally posted by: Merlin
I have both WD's and Maxtors and Hitachis and Seagates and have had failures from all companies, but none that would be considered above average (except the old IBM 75 GXP's). The MAXLINE III has a 5 year warranty, the 2500JB that I most recently had die that i purchased RETAIL had only a 1 year warranty..
i've never used a seagate drive myself.

i have used WD,IBM and Maxtor


slowly i have ended up with all maxtors because the others fail. In fact i've started to get in the habit of always using a maxtor as my backup drive because it's reliable.

western digital is clearly the brand i've had the most problem with.

i don't have stock quotes and stats etc to go with my argument like some ... just one guy's experience.


 

DefDC

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FWIW, I've been in IT for 11 years, and I've don't think any manufacturer is more reliable than the next, but Maxtors tend to be the LOUDEST.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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IMHO, I trust Hitachi + Seagate. Maxtor ~on the fence (though I like the quiteness of their drives), WD - I'll use it for the short term and sell it before the 1yr warranty runs out
 
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