16X SLI - the end of jaggies

[nRollo]

I just played a level of Serious Sam at 16X12 16XAA and some UT2004 at 16X12 16X AA.

Have to say it looks very nice and is a good option to have for games that are cpu limited.

If you've played Serious Sam you know you have to really sling the firepower as you mow down waves of adversaries, and UT2004 CTF can be pretty fast paced as well. Got down into the upper 30s at times at the UT2004, but mostly was in the 50s-60s. I didn't have FRAPs on for the Serious Sam, but it never wavered.

Anyway, pretty cool stuff. From what I can tell, the only difference in ATI multi GPU rendering is now the tiling (an inefficient form of SLI one of nVidia's driver programmers told me they rejected early on) and ATI has two defaults for non-profiled games instead of one.
(and of course availability)

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[johnnqq]

crossfire is supposed to have 16x too...

 

[reever]

It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary. There's already a topic about SLI and the modes with actual information in it, instead of your opinion and some useless gossip

 

[BFG10K]

16xAA is available on any single NV4x card; you don't need SLI. Of course at real resolutions 16xAA is usually unusable even on a 7800GTX SLI setup.

 

[lavaheadache]

Originally posted by: reever
It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary

I hear ya, I grew tired of it a while back

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: reever
It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary

I hear ya, I grew tired of it a while back

This loser is just trying to make his e-dick bigger. The real joke is on him. $1200 for video cards that are outdated in 2 months.

What a moron.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Point out where, in that post, he posted anything against ATI.

It would seem that he is commending ATI for having 2 defaults instead of one. The only thing he says to hurt your pour hearts, is that one of the rendering paths in SLI is innefeicient, in which case he simply quoted what an Nvidia engineer said.

Instead of starting all these threads with a flamewar why dont you guys just not post at all. Because, to tell the truth, it is getting fvcking annoying that every time he posts on a subject that i might want to post on i have to wade through all this sh!t.

-Kevin

Edit: Cant you already achieve 16x AA without SLI though?

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: reever
It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary

I hear ya, I grew tired of it a while back

This loser is just trying to make his e-dick bigger. The real joke is on him. $1200 for video cards that are outdated in 2 months.

What a moron.

LOL- yeah, I'll be enjoying these cards less for som e reason if some faster cards come out in the future.......that makes a lot of sense.....
:roll:

I hope cards that are twice as fast as these come out tomorrow, and I hope they cost $10 a piece. Know why?

Because I'm not stupid enough to care if I have the fastest rig on the board, or how long what I paid seems like a good price.

Beyond that, I've already said I'll buy a R520 for my 5 year olds box.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: johnnqq
crossfire is supposed to have 16x too...

I believe Crossfire is supposed to have 14X, but I'm sure it will look as good.

 

[Cookie Monster]

I agree. Rollo actually have the hardware, the personal experience unlike you people who just whine. It could be becasue of jealously, i dont know, but if i had the cash to spend heaps on PC hardware i would defitentely buy the latest end.

I actually read the whole interview, it was quite a while ago, but the nvidia engineer talked about why Nvidia simply chose SFR and AFR, why supertiling was ineffective (due to perforamnce loss of GPUs rendering over the suggested sqaure, e.g erendering over the line), why the connector was needed, and etc.

And anyhow SLi is different to 3DFX SLi.

 

[Bona Fide]

Crossfire isn't even launched yet...how can you say anything about availablitiy. :S

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Point out where, in that post, he posted anything against ATI.

-Kevin

I'm guessing it was:

Originally posted by: Rollo
the only difference in ATI multi GPU rendering is now the tiling (an inefficient form of SLI one of nVidia's driver programmers told me they rejected early on) and ATI has two defaults for non-profiled games instead of one.
(and of course availability)

 

[Intelia]

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24794

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24800

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24788

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Intelia
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24794

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24800

WTH does an article about Intel at Quake-con have to do with this thread?

(as far as the other one goes, reports of a Crossfire motherboard being available in a few weeks does not equal Crossfire "availability"- it equals "Crossfire still MIA")

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Creig

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek
Point out where, in that post, he posted anything against ATI.

-Kevin

I'm guessing it was:

Originally posted by: Rollo
the only difference in ATI multi GPU rendering is now the tiling (an inefficient form of SLI one of nVidia's driver programmers told me they rejected early on) and ATI has two defaults for non-profiled games instead of one.
(and of course availability)

What is not factual information about what you quoted?

1.nVidia doesn't have tiling, an nV engineer told me they rejected it early on due to it not being a good form of SLI.

2. ATI has two defaults, nV has one.

3. SLI is available, Crossfire is not.

All true, all factual, no flames. What exactly offends some of you about this?

 

[fstime]

I'm amazed, we are still on the first page and already a flame war is happening.

 

[Bona Fide]

Originally posted by: BouZouki
I'm amazed, we are still on the first page and already a flame war is happening.

It's astounding isn't it? Only Rollo could pull it off

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: BouZouki
I'm amazed, we are still on the first page and already a flame war is happening.

Yeah it was pretty criminal of me to post my first experiences with the new SLI AA. I can see why that would anger people on a video card forum.

:roll:

 

[cbehnken]

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: Intelia
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24794

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=24800

WTH does an article about Intel at Quake-con have to do with this thread?

(as far as the other one goes, reports of a Crossfire motherboard being available in a few weeks does not equal Crossfire "availability"- it equals "Crossfire still MIA")

I guess Intelia ran out of CPU threads to troll.

Can you post some screenshots of the 16xAA in action. I hate jaggies too, they are really bad in EQ2.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: reever
It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary. There's already a topic about SLI and the modes with actual information in it, instead of your opinion and some useless gossip

Would you please, please, please go take some calcium pills and grow a spine....
There was no flamebaiting here, you just chose to see it as such.

 

[SonicIce]

Originally posted by: BFG10K
16xAA is available on any single NV4x card; you don't need SLI. Of course at real resolutions 16xAA is usually unusable even on a 7800GTX SLI setup.

how do i get 16xAA? my 6600 gt only goes up to 8xS. (6600 gt is an nv4x card, right?)

 

[SonicIce]

oh and rollo, :camera:'s?

 

[bunnyfubbles]

Originally posted by: Rollo
What is not factual information about what you quoted?

1.nVidia doesn't have tiling, an nV engineer told me they rejected it early on due to it not being a good form of SLI.

The part where you try and make nVidia look better because they didn't mess with something that you now deem as unneeded, as if nVidia could never make a mistake and ATI is by bothering with it.

I think that's where the line found a toe over it.

Stupid to mention it, stupid to complain about you mentioning it, but it really isn't that big of a deal.

It'd be like someone saying "ATI didn't bother with SM3 with their X8xx line because they thought it wasn't that great of a form of SM compared to 2.0"...

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: SonicIce
oh and rollo, :camera:'s?

Done.

Screenshots

 

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: reever
It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary

I hear ya, I grew tired of it a while back

This loser is just trying to make his e-dick bigger. The real joke is on him. $1200 for video cards that are outdated in 2 months.

What a moron.

^^This dickhead is too poor to be able to afford one, let alone two, and is jealous. 4200 posts and you're still an idiot.