16X SLI - the end of jaggies

[Ronin]

Originally posted by: DLeRium

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
I agree. Rollo actually have the hardware, the personal experience unlike you people who just whine. It could be becasue of jealously, i dont know, but if i had the cash to spend heaps on PC hardware i would defitentely buy the latest end.

I actually read the whole interview, it was quite a while ago, but the nvidia engineer talked about why Nvidia simply chose SFR and AFR, why supertiling was ineffective (due to perforamnce loss of GPUs rendering over the suggested sqaure, e.g erendering over the line), why the connector was needed, and etc.

And anyhow SLi is different to 3DFX SLi.

Not really. SLI was borrowed from 3dfx SLI. NVidia ADDED things like AFR and SFR. SFR was really just a retooled scanline method.

If you look at ATI's MAXX solution, it has been a primarily AFR solution. If you build a multi gpu solution with from AFR and then back down, you will have better results than if you build your way up to AFR. SLI needs some improvement but I'm sure NV will continue reworking the AFR capabilities.

Crossfire technology is definitely superior to SLI. That's like a no contest. IF you don't believe it, look at how the % increase over 1 card is greater than the % increase for SLI.

But in any case, we should all be mad in some way that ATI took forever to get this out their door. So whether you're a fanboy of either company, you need to admit that Crossfire is great technology. It's just that ATI hasn't done the best job in competition.

Now on to R520...

Yeah, good for them. Only took them another year to implement. They're still sucking hind tit in the technology department, no matter how their implementation is now. I will say, however, that the results can't be ignored, but I think it's an issue of too little, too late, at this point.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Deinonych

Originally posted by: Rollo
You are in for a bitter life if you this is your philosophy. Someone will always have a better computer than you, a prettier wife, a nicer house, a better car. I'd prefer to enjoy what I have than second guess myself all day and whine about the deal that got away.

Well said.

Oh, and thanks for the highlight and screenshots.

Thank you and you're welcome, glad to help.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: tk109
Man that looks super smooth. I didn't think it would look that good. Still looked kind of jaggy on the reviews. Of course both those games you played are totally boxy games so that probably helped.

I had trouble doing screenshots with print screen. My buddy at nV me there are issues with various screen print techniques, bug reports filed, etc. but that print screen and Hypersnap were working best now.

I tried to do shots of HL2 and another newer game, with very mixed results (dark bar on side of screen, screen offcenter, screen all dark, etc)

It was late so I didn't play with it much. It looks very nice on the modern games as well, I'll post them if I decide to spend more time on that.

 

[Ronin]

I didn't have problems taking screenshots, but the results I got were less than what I expected. I'm going to have to revisit and find out what the deal is.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: Xafgoat

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: BouZouki
I'm amazed, we are still on the first page and already a flame war is happening.

Yeah it was pretty criminal of me to post my first experiences with the new SLI AA. I can see why that would anger people on a video card forum.

:roll:

i think people just dont like you for some reason

Eh, some do, some don't. Speak out in a public forum, bound to happen.

 

[nRollo]

Originally posted by: BlackAdam
Trying to prove a point about image quality yet compressing the hell out of your pictures... not really gonna help.

Sorry- the site I post on does that automatically for some reason, only takes jpegs/gifs, then crunches them.

If you want to host me I can send you the .bmps?

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: reever
It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary

I hear ya, I grew tired of it a while back

This loser is just trying to make his e-dick bigger. The real joke is on him. $1200 for video cards that are outdated in 2 months.

What a moron.

^^This dickhead is too poor to be able to afford one, let alone two, and is jealous. 4200 posts and you're still an idiot.

You're a retard...nothing more.

Rollo is the idiot who said that "9800Pro is an unusable Doom3/licenses card". When I told him I got 50+ FPS in Doom 3 with my old card...he said it wasn't true. He went on to say Shens and that I didn't have some "magical" 9800Pro that could play Doom3.

Later on in the post he linked a freaking Anandtech article that showed Doom3 pulling the FPS I said it would! He didn't have the balls to say anything back to me or apologize.

He's just an ATI hater and always tries to talk crap. I think he's an idiot and half is post are BS just trying to make himself look good and gloat about his cards.

DISCLAIMER: I own an 6800 Ultra O/C. So don't bother calling me an ATI Fanboy.

Yes life is about how much we spend on GPU's. I'm just so poor cause I have no reason to buy SLI 7800 to make my e-dick bigger! Ever thought some of us have no use for it. Oh no...we're just all the sudden poor.

 

[zendari]

Likelinus, you see

Rollo likes to think anything below 16x12 is a worthless resolution, unless he's running his super HDR and soft shadows, where then the same 10x7 that was worthless before is now an excellent resolution.

 

[Elcs]

They complain about AMD fanatics in the CPU Forum but at least we can have a conversation without it turning into a free-for-all wrestling match of words.

Crossfire does look a strong competitor to SLI but the performance differences of the cards and how they all handle in games is quite different with this generation and equal cross-comparison is pretty hard.

Anandtech's review needed more games tested IMO. It shows Crossfire to be a powerful solution in the tests ran but is it the same accross the board? How would Crossfire hold up if the bugs/problems found were sorted?

My input on the flames is finished.

Im stuck with students wages and rather outdated technology (XP and a 9800P) but theres nothing extra special that makes me want to spend that much money on an Multi-GPU. I barely see the difference after X4 AA in gaming situations and I still havent tried to figure out what AF does for IQ yet.

It looks good but its not *that* much better.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: reever
It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary

I hear ya, I grew tired of it a while back

This loser is just trying to make his e-dick bigger. The real joke is on him. $1200 for video cards that are outdated in 2 months.

What a moron.

^^This dickhead is too poor to be able to afford one, let alone two, and is jealous. 4200 posts and you're still an idiot.

You're a retard...nothing more.

Rollo is the idiot who said that "9800Pro is an unusable Doom3/licenses card". When I told him I got 50+ FPS in Doom 3 with my old card...he said it wasn't true. He went on to say Shens and that I didn't have some "magical" 9800Pro that could play Doom3.

Later on in the post he linked a freaking Anandtech article that showed Doom3 pulling the FPS I said it would! He didn't have the balls to say anything back to me or apologize.

He's just an ATI hater and always tries to talk crap. I think he's an idiot and half is post are BS just trying to make himself look good and gloat about his cards.

DISCLAIMER: I own an 6800 Ultra O/C. So don't bother calling me an ATI Fanboy.

Yes life is about how much we spend on GPU's. I'm just so poor cause I have no reason to buy SLI 7800 to make my e-dick bigger! Ever thought some of us have no use for it. Oh no...we're just all the sudden poor.

And you are one of the idiots who keeps ruining threads simply because Rollo posts. Your post has NOTHING to do with the topic of this thread. Do you think you are funny, or special for posting here and flaming someone; because right now it is getting old.

-Kevin

 

[imported_Rampage]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Ronin

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: lavaheadache

Originally posted by: reever
It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary

I hear ya, I grew tired of it a while back

This loser is just trying to make his e-dick bigger. The real joke is on him. $1200 for video cards that are outdated in 2 months.

What a moron.

^^This dickhead is too poor to be able to afford one, let alone two, and is jealous. 4200 posts and you're still an idiot.

You're a retard...nothing more.

Rollo is the idiot who said that "9800Pro is an unusable Doom3/licenses card". When I told him I got 50+ FPS in Doom 3 with my old card...he said it wasn't true. He went on to say Shens and that I didn't have some "magical" 9800Pro that could play Doom3.

Later on in the post he linked a freaking Anandtech article that showed Doom3 pulling the FPS I said it would! He didn't have the balls to say anything back to me or apologize.

He's just an ATI hater and always tries to talk crap. I think he's an idiot and half is post are BS just trying to make himself look good and gloat about his cards.

DISCLAIMER: I own an 6800 Ultra O/C. So don't bother calling me an ATI Fanboy.

Yes life is about how much we spend on GPU's. I'm just so poor cause I have no reason to buy SLI 7800 to make my e-dick bigger! Ever thought some of us have no use for it. Oh no...we're just all the sudden poor.

Wow.

Many of you are lucky they havent invented a way for me to stab people through the screen yet.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: reever
It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary. There's already a topic about SLI and the modes with actual information in it, instead of your opinion and some useless gossip

You must understand Rollo. He post for two purposes, attack ATI and impress 15 year olds with his computer junk. "My five year old has SLI.."

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: reever
It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary. There's already a topic about SLI and the modes with actual information in it, instead of your opinion and some useless gossip

You must understand Rollo. He post for two purposes, attack ATI and impress 15 year olds with his computer junk. "My five year old has SLI.."

You must understand that no one wants you to post. If all you are going to do is attack people online, and draw the thread away from an on topic discussion then get the hell out of here. There are people who are interested in the material you are interupting.

-Kevin

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: reever
It's amazing how you simply must cram flamebait about ATI in every post, it's really unnecessary. There's already a topic about SLI and the modes with actual information in it, instead of your opinion and some useless gossip

You must understand Rollo. He post for two purposes, attack ATI and impress 15 year olds with his computer junk. "My five year old has SLI.."

You must understand that no one wants you to post. If all you are going to do is attack people online, and draw the thread away from an on topic discussion then get the hell out of here. There are people who are interested in the material you are interupting.

-Kevin

Quetion. Whos the top and whos the bottom in your relationship? You see to be the bottom. You're definitely the bitch in the relationship.

How about you let him be his own man and stand up for himself. You can complain about me posting...but what are you doing? You're attacking everyone that is attacking him. You're taking it just as off-topic as we are.

Whos the kettle...whos the pot. You figure it out. Hypocrite.

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

You must understand that no one wants you to post. If all you are going to do is attack people online, and draw the thread away from an on topic discussion then get the hell out of here. There are people who are interested in the material you are interupting.

-Kevin

Are you rollo's PR agent?

 

[Ronin]

More like the voice of reason amongst a group of idiots.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Ronin
More like the voice of reason amongst a group of idiots.

Yes we're all idiots. You and Rollo are the voice of reason. Such fine young men.

 

[Ronin]

I didn't name names. If you feel you're in that category, I won't stop you.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Ronin
More like the voice of reason amongst a group of idiots.

Exactly.

Maybe if you guys just STFU, and let the threads stay on topic we wouldn't be having this pointless argument.

You can complain about me posting...but what are you doing? You're attacking everyone that is attacking him. You're taking it just as off-topic as we are.

Except for the fact that i posted my views, and wish to know more. Whereas you just came in here with a rod stuck up your a$$ acting all high and mighty.

Stop trolling. If you want to learn something or want to discuss a topic in a civil way, then fine. However this lets flame for the hell of it is getting old.

-Kevin

 

[zendari]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Ronin
More like the voice of reason amongst a group of idiots.

Yes we're all idiots. You and Rollo are the voice of reason. Such fine young men.

Search back a bit where Ronin spouted some FUD about how the 7800 GTX gets a higher 3dmark score than the inquirer said, discredits EVERY review from anandtech to firingsquad to hardocp, and shows a couple pictures of his overclocked card.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Ronin
More like the voice of reason amongst a group of idiots.

Yes we're all idiots. You and Rollo are the voice of reason. Such fine young men.

Ok, you show me one Video Card guide. Show me one review of a product. Hell, in this thread, show me where you contributed to the discussion of the thread on topic.

Thats what i thought.

-Kevin

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Ronin
I didn't name names. If you feel you're in that category, I won't stop you.

You've already replied to me in a negative manner. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out how you feel.

Look out for the fall from that pedestal. It's a doozy.

 

[Ronin]

And I proved myself right. Got another invalid argument? Shoo fly, go back to where you came from.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Ronin
More like the voice of reason amongst a group of idiots.

Yes we're all idiots. You and Rollo are the voice of reason. Such fine young men.

Ok, you show me one Video Card guide. Show me one review of a product. Hell, in this thread, show me where you contributed to the discussion of the thread on topic.

Thats what i thought.

-Kevin

Apparently you missed the definition of a forum. It's a place where people can talk openly and submit their opinions. I don't have to prove anything. This guy is just an ATI basher and IT gets old. He ALWAYS slips something in to degrade ATI in one way or another in his post. Use the search feature..it's wonderful.

Next.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Ronin
And I proved myself right. Got another invalid argument? Shoo fly, go back to where you came from.

I'm curious..how did you prove anything. All you said is that we were idiots.

Great logic there. I think this guy is an idiot. You think I'm an idiot. But you're right and i'm wrong. You know what they say opinions are like.

So again...you're the man!?!? Smarter than the average bear!